# Fuck YOU, You self-absorbed twat!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-you-self-absorbed-twat/312726>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 15, 2005, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-you-self-absorbed-twat/312726 "2005-07-15T22:21:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-you-self-absorbed-twat/312726/141 "2005-07-16T23:36:44Z")

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> [@Diane](#):
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> Tank, I never really noticed you much although we have both been around here for a long time, but holy shit dude – have you always been this much of a raving loony?

No. He hasn’t. ☹

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2005, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-you-self-absorbed-twat/312726/142 "2005-07-17T00:23:46Z")

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> [@ExTank](#):
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> Eat shit asswipe. When it’s 2000lb.+ car vs. 400lb. motorcycle, _it is self-defense._

Actually, in that acute situation, it isn’t. They’ll already be in your way. If you respond immediately, the time taken to pull the gun & fire instead of saving yourself will ensure that you do crash. If you avoid the collision, shooting them after the fact can’t stop what already happened. And the lifeless driver will be unable to control the car, creating a greater menace.

I sympathize, but self\*-defense\* it isn’t.

So, maybe what you want to do is follow them until they stop, let them park the car safely, then run them over with your bike when they get out. This is what we call a _deterrent._ Enough bikers do that, the car drivers will be afraid of them & give them space. Except for the vindictive ones who will run you over to get you before you get them.

Crap. This violence thing is just creating more problems.

How about a video camera with a fisheye lens on the front of your bike? Then you could record this crap & use that against them. Lousy solution, but less dangerous…

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2005, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-you-self-absorbed-twat/312726/143 "2005-07-17T00:43:52Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> So, maybe what you want to do is follow them until they stop, let them park the car safely, then run them over with your bike when they get out. This is what we call a _deterrent._ Enough bikers do that…
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> Crap. This violence thing is just creating more problems.

Bikers want to be treated differently than ordinary drivers. That’s appropriate: if I cut off a car\*, it’s usually a mere annoyance. If I cut off a bike, it could be serious injury or death.

Personally, I try to give motorcycles a wide berth. Heck, I don’t like driving in front of, behind or next to them for any length of time. Extra hidden/secret M4M-style thinking towards eg helmetless motorcyclists: “I wish you wouldn’t do that.”

Interestingly, I can’t remember ever being told to give them a wide berth, either in person, through the media or in driver’s ed. Which may explain why aggressive drivers treat bikers the same way they treat other cars.

Instead they say, “Bicyclists/bikers/whomever _share_ the same road.” This contrasts with the campaign to protect highway workers, [“Give them a brake!”](http://www.nevadadot.com/traveler/construction_projects/brake/)

Methinks a new meme is in order.

- Note that this is strictly a hypothetical: I don’t want to cut anybody off.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2005, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-you-self-absorbed-twat/312726/144 "2005-07-17T00:47:40Z")

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> [@ExTank](#):
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> Well, since the bitch confessed to the Duty Doughnut what I’d said she’d done, a ticket of some kind for her would’ve been nice. It may not have corrected her behavior in the future, but it at least would’ve been a message to her right there, and it would’ve been a cop doing his job.

And at that point, you should have argued more. Dude, you were in danger, you were in the right. You needed to explain that insistently, with words, in that moment.

I still think the shooting people while driving thing, while appealing, is just going to compound the danger on the road. Especially in heavy traffic. Unless, you know, there’s a psycho who’s trying repeatedly to run you down, in which case it might be worth it. But it’s not really going to help against Joe Oblivious.

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**Author:** ![Foaming\_Cleanser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Foaming\_Cleanser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foaming_Cleanser)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2005, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-you-self-absorbed-twat/312726/145 "2005-07-17T01:05:51Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by **ExTank**  
> I no longer have any reserevation about adjusting the **other** asswipe’s attitude.

Cut him some slack. Look what he admitted.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2005, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-you-self-absorbed-twat/312726/146 "2005-07-17T02:16:32Z")

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Hmmm.

> [@ExTank](#):
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> from the guy whose car me and my bike bounced off the back of, **who never knew anything was wrong until me and my bike bounced off the back of his car**

Bolding mine.

So. You have had this problem before. Couldn’t stop in time.

> [@ExTank](#):
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> (and with no indication from my driving record that I was a habitual speeder or reckless driver (I have a spotless driving record), that I, out-of-the-blue and for no sane reason, decided to drop my bike at 65 mph on a clear, sunny day, with a dry road in good condition.

So. Why did you drop it? Couldn’t stop in time? Going a little too fast ehh…

Couldn’t stop in time? On a bike?

Hey, you got cut off. You couldn’t deal with it.

You seem to be unsafe on a bike. And I think you should stay away from weapons.

You’re a Gulf war vet aren’t you? I really, really wanted to give you a pass on this thread.

Those ‘Teach you how to ride classes’ are way beyoud you, I’m sure. What you need to do is PAY ATTENTION.

So does every other driver on the road.

Sheeessss.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2005, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-you-self-absorbed-twat/312726/147 "2005-07-17T02:18:11Z")

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> [@The Tooth](#):
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> On a more positive note, maybe she carries too:
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> "I don’t know, officer. I pulled up to a light in front of a motorcycle. The rider got off his bike, walked up to my car, and knocked on my window. I asked what the hell he wanted, and he said ‘I reserve the right to readjust your attitude’ or some such thing. Then he pulled out a gun.
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> “So I shot him.”

That there’s an excellent point. Ever see the movie “L.A. Story” with Steve Martin? Remember the driving scene, where they realize it’s the first day of spring?

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2005, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-you-self-absorbed-twat/312726/148 "2005-07-17T02:27:26Z")

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Patrick Stewart’s finest role.

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2005, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-you-self-absorbed-twat/312726/149 "2005-07-17T04:21:00Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Why is this thread still open, and why have the mods not addressed **Ex Tank** yet?

Hey, when it gets down to it, I’m sure they’re here for the entertainment value of this board, just like the rest of us.

Seriously, **ExTank** , what the purpose of your defense of your pathetic, angry-16-year-old-with-a-LiveJournal rant? Great, you blow the fucker’s head off. Now you have several thousand pounds of moving metal hurtling about the roadside uncontrolled. Sure, you might be able to avoid your’s victim’s “cage,” but others might not be so lucky. Oh, wait, they’re “cagers,” too, hell with them. _You_ got to take out your petty little frustrations, which will make you feel better about your tiny penis, and fuck everyone else.

I should have known… carry on.

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2005, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-you-self-absorbed-twat/312726/150 "2005-07-17T06:22:02Z")

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Enough of this jaw-dropping trainwreck.

**ExTank** , no matter how your rationaize it, you’ve threatened physical violence.

Locked.

Veb  
Who picked a helluva a time to develop computer problems

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