# Fuck your cross tattoos, and fuck your giant gold/diamond crosses

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 16, 2005, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281 "2005-11-16T07:25:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/21 "2005-11-17T01:27:10Z")

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In some cultures large, flashy crucifixes worn around the neck seem to be the norm. For example I’ve seen many hispanics wearing _enormous_ crucifixes. Although they aren’t similar in nature to the ones I’ve seen rappers and faux-rappers wearing. They are pretty gaudy. And considering this is almost always in the context of some Mexican restaurant employee, I doubt they’re doing it to display how rich they are. Simply because they aren’t. I think that’s just one form of religious expression for them.

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/22 "2005-11-17T01:31:06Z")

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Dude, you’re looking at my cross tattoo all wrong. When _I_ look at it, _it’s upside down!!! PRAISE SATAN!!!_

Okay, I’m kidding, I don’t have a cross tattoo. But I do have a tattoo of a turd with a halo over it. It’s “holy shit.” And I’m not kidding.

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**Author:** ![Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boo_Boo_Foo)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/23 "2005-11-17T02:17:27Z")

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> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> I have a cross tattoo on my shoulder. Feel free to eat shit if you don’t like it.

40… Love. I’d say that’s match point all things considered. Classic.

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**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/24 "2005-11-17T04:24:08Z")

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So is it okay for me to keep serving my traditional Shabbos appetizer platter of a Star of David rendered with shrimp and blue cheese?

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/25 "2005-11-17T05:38:31Z")

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I have a cross tattoo. Got it because it was the only thing in my life that I can be sure that I would want on my body forever. My reason was to remind me that Jesus died for my sins - every day, permanently.

I didn’t get it for you. Or to be trendy. Or for Jesus. It’s just for me.

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**Author:** ![inkleberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f17d59/32.png) [@inkleberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inkleberry)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/26 "2005-11-17T05:52:22Z")

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I want a pork menorah! Also, I’d like a kippah that says, “Jesus is Lord.”

Services in these parts need some serious spicing up.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/27 "2005-11-17T05:55:25Z")

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> [@yBeayf](#):
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> Of course, I don’t think your average fratboy has to worry about being martyred for his faith anytime soon…

That’d make the world would be a more entertaining place…

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/28 "2005-11-17T06:03:26Z")

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> [@yBeayf](#):
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> Of course, I don’t think your average fratboy has to worry about being martyred for his faith anytime soon…

“He died to save us from Fat Chicks.”

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**Author:** ![Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boo_Boo_Foo)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/29 "2005-11-17T06:39:40Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> “He died to save us from Fat Chicks.”

Miller, that is very funny. I’m assuming it’s a bumper sticker somewhere because if it isn’t - it bloody well should be.

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**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/30 "2005-11-17T07:12:07Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> “He died to save us from Fat Chicks.”

I just want to write that I have tears in my eyes from this. So damned funny. And I almost _never_ laugh out loud at what I read on the Internet.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/31 "2005-11-17T08:03:13Z")

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> [@SolGrundy](#):
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> So is it okay for me to keep serving my traditional Shabbos appetizer platter of a Star of David rendered with shrimp and blue cheese?

Only if served with a side dish of fried bacon, you dirty heathen!

Bacon is solid proof God not only exists, but loves us very, very much. (Insert Homer Simpson voice-over)

Wearing a cross? Gotta agree with the OP in a way. I’ve always (well, since I was 7) worn a gold crucifix. I’m on my 3rd one. The first being lost, and the second lost as well. The one I have now, along with the previous ones were all blessed by my priest. I never take it off (even while showering) and it’s almost always worn under my collar. It’s not to show off. It’s because I somehow feel a tiny bit better just knowing I have it on. It’s for me, not anyone else, and I really couldn’t care less if anyone knows I wear it.

What gets me rolling my eyes is seeing people forking over thousands on what is basically a fashion accessory. More power to 'em, I say. The symbol represents someone that knows the truth. And if He doesn’t exist? Well, no harm done I guess. Just gives me eye-rolling excercise for when I read some threads here. 😃

Tattoos? I hardly think a line or three in Leviticus would really apply these days. Most likely that part was included as a chance to keep people from identifying with a tribe (tribal tattoos) rather than the established/establishing religion. (Some day I’ll get my GD thread started both defending and invalidating religions).

The OP comes across as having more a beef with Fraternaties than anything involving tattos or crosses. But I could be way off thinking that. If so, disregard that comment.

As for tattos? I have three so far:

1, Calvin and Hobbes. With Calvin wearing shades and mashing his hands together mischievously and a smirk while Hobbes stands behind him wearing shades holding a six-shooter.

2, My family crest with the motto surrounding it in Gaelic.

3, My Packer’s tat bordered by every year since 1929 that they’ve won the league title. With a few inches left for the future title years. (A record 12, take that ChiMinnDet fans!) 😃

I seriously doubt God will be angry at any of those considering;

#1, I got it when I was 18, I still like the attitude, I’ve never killed anyone.

#2, Family seems to be a part of religion. (Hey, they brought me up in the Church)

#3, I’m a minor owner of the only professional team that is allowed to use His initial as the logo.

I fell pretty good about my chances when Judgement Day rolls around.

Unless someone quotes the New Testament proving I’m going to burn. Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to turn the furnace down. Getting a little warm in here. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/32 "2005-11-17T14:14:46Z")

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> [@Argent Towers](#):
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> Is there anything, besides the (also stupid) “tribal” design that could be more cliche and pretentious than your fucking cross tattoo?

I have a tribal tat on my left arm. Got it 1995. Have another tribal on my right leg that also incorporates a Sacred heart. Got it about 4 years ago. You are at liberty to take your rant, shove it up your ass, and give it a quarter turn. Whatever my reasons may have been for getting them, the good opinion of a random internet douchebag (that’d be you) wasn’t a factor.

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**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/33 "2005-11-17T14:22:52Z")

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> [@vibrotronica](#):
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> “A lot of Christians wear crosses around their necks. You think when Jesus comes back he ever wants to see a fucking cross? It’s like going up to Jackie Onassis wearing a rifle pendant.”  
> -Bill Hicks

Nice of Bill Hicks to steal that joke from Lenny Bruce. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/34 "2005-11-17T14:32:55Z")

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Christians don’t follow this law, Jews do. As a Jew of the 21st century, I hardly think Leviticus applies anymore. Accordingly, I designed a pretty cool religious tattoo some years ago. It’s the star of David, in barbed wire, surrounded by the word “shalom” in Hebrew.

Do you really give a shit what I do to my body?

Sam

P.S.- THere was a relaxing of the rules not long after WWII to allow all of those defiled by the nazis to get a proper Jewish burial.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/35 "2005-11-17T14:49:27Z")

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> [@Argent Towers](#):
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> These aren’t Biblical scholars getting these cross tattoos, though. They are buffed-up college partyboys who spend every weekend filling their useless bodies with alcohol, and then nailing drunken girls. So maybe they missed that line when they were studying Scripture.

Now it’s clear. The real problem is that you aren’t buff, don’t get invited to parties, and have no realistic hopes of ever losing your virginity.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/36 "2005-11-17T14:56:23Z")

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It could be worse. I heard a story about a girl going into a jeweller’s to buy a cross and explaining that she wanted one “with the little man on it”. :smack: :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/37 "2005-11-17T17:55:45Z")

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> [@Malacandra](#):
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> I heard a story about a girl going into a jeweller’s to buy a cross and explaining that she wanted one “with the little man on it”. :smack: :rolleyes:

Your lack of a source, and your second-hand retelling of the story fill me with fervent hope that no one could actually be that stupid.

Does it really say “tattoo” in the Bible? What does it say in the KJV?

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**Author:** ![Bill\_The\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@Bill\_The\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_The_Cat)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/38 "2005-11-17T18:51:09Z")

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> [@Orual](#):
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> Christians eat seafood, and meat with cheese, and do plenty of other things forbidden by Leviticus.

And leave their penises intact.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/39 "2005-11-17T18:59:59Z")

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> [@Bill The Cat](#):
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> And leave their penises intact.

Some do. Men from my generation are often circumcised regardless of religious background. It was routinely done as a hygiene measure.

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**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-your-cross-tattoos-and-fuck-your-giant-gold-diamond-crosses/331281/40 "2005-11-17T22:30:26Z")

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I have a wall o’ crosses. Crosses made of ceramic, stainless steel, mirror, wood, pewter, stone, etc. Some are new, others vintage. Some have a lil’ man, others are empty. One of them is hollow and contains holy water. Many cost less than $10, but on one I spent $125. I am an atheist/agnostic/secular humanist depending on my mood. They are art. Period.

I have no crosses on my body, although I have both upper arms, my chest, both calves, one thigh covered with ink. I have these for me, and anyone who doesn’t like it can eat shit and die.

God bless. 😉

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