# Fuck Zahi Hawass sideways **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 19, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980 "2011-04-19T18:28:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/21 "2011-04-20T15:39:04Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Too bad. > > He’s a brilliant guy who tells uncomfortable truths. > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h71xCCyTJGY](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h71xCCyTJGY) Please tell me that you’re joking ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/22 "2011-04-20T15:54:54Z")
> [@flight](#): > > Wow, I thought that maybe someone had done a false translation on that, but it turns out that it is true based upon his trying to “explain what he really meant” on his website. > > For those who did not see it he talks about how Jews control the entire world. MEMRI doesn’t do false translations. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/23 "2011-04-20T15:56:50Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Please tell me that you’re joking I’m not. It’s always good to see someone stand up and tell the truth that’s usually suppressed by the Zionist-controlled media. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/24 "2011-04-20T15:59:41Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > the truth that’s usually suppressed by the Zionist-controlled media. :smack: I thought it was the liberal-controlled media! The Liberal-Zionist controlled media? Fox News? Help! ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/25 "2011-04-20T16:29:59Z")
It’s always a little disappointing when you find out someone’s a complete ass, and I’m not talking about the archaeologist. > [@aruvqan](#): > > When one legally gets an item it is not stealing or looting. The items removed from Egypt under excavation permits were legally acquired. What **Boyo Jim** said. Hawass’ perspective is slanted and we know how much he loves the camera, but he’s not wrong to point out that a relationship between a protectorate or a dependent state and the protector is far from balanced and it’s fair to apply hindsight even if “the natives” officially approved at the time. That stuff does not only belong to Egyptians, but it doesn’t solely belong to everybody else because it’s “world history.” If you compare the amount of Egyptian treasures that don’t officially belong to Egypt and the amount of British or French or Italian treasures that don’t belong to Italy, I don’t think you’d find a similar ratio. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/26 "2011-04-20T16:43:36Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > :smack: > > I thought it was the liberal-controlled media! The Liberal-Zionist controlled media? Fox News? Help! No, it’s the Zionist controlled media. How else do account for how well Israel is portrayed in the media, the amount of coverage the supposed Holocaust gets and the continued employment of Seth Rogen. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/27 "2011-04-20T16:46:37Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > No, it’s the Zionist controlled media. > > How else do account for how well Israel is portrayed in the media, the amount of coverage the supposed Holocaust gets and the continued employment of Seth Rogen. If Israel receives any positive portrayals in the media it has more to do with them being an ally of the US than it does with any “control” Jews have within the establishment itself. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/28 "2011-04-20T16:59:58Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > No, it’s the Zionist controlled media. Oh, boy. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/29 "2011-04-20T17:03:24Z")
That certainly explains Seth Rogen’s career. I can’t think of anything short of an international cabal that would be required for that man to keep getting work. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/30 "2011-04-20T18:22:41Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > It’s always a little disappointing when you find out someone’s a complete ass, and I’m not talking about the archaeologist. > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by aruvqan View Post > > When one legally gets an item it is not stealing or looting. The items removed from Egypt under excavation permits were legally acquired. > > What **Boyo Jim** said. Hawass’ perspective is slanted and we know how much he loves the camera, but he’s not wrong to point out that a relationship between a protectorate or a dependent state and the protector is far from balanced and it’s fair to apply hindsight even if “the natives” officially approved at the time. That stuff does not only belong to Egyptians, but it doesn’t solely belong to everybody else because it’s “world history.” If you compare the amount of Egyptian treasures that don’t officially belong to Egypt and the amount of British or French or Italian treasures that don’t belong to Italy, I don’t think you’d find a similar ratio. Oh boy, this will be fun. If the country is subjugated [like many mid eastern and asian countries were in colonial days and up through roughly 2nd world war] it _does not matter_ they were proper possessions of their conquerors. That was the way of the world through the second world war. If you want to whine about Egypt, blame the King that took over in 1923. His political nominee was the one selling permits and inspecting what was going out of the country. Maybe he was as corrupt as Hawass is a skeevy ass who is now appealing a prison sentence for refusing to return someones property. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/31 "2011-04-20T18:24:41Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > I’m not. > > It’s always good to see someone stand up and tell the truth that’s usually suppressed by the Zionist-controlled media. Ah right…you’re a prick. Thanks for the clarification. It saves time and uncertainty. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/32 "2011-04-20T18:45:14Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > … That was the way of the world through the second world war… And the way of the world now is that governments and institutions are reconsidering their past and making adjustments, compensation, reparations,… or not. For instance, the Smithsonian has been returning thousands of artifacts, including bodies taken from burial sites, to various Native American tribes. Because someone is lobbying for the return of what he sees as stolen heritage doesn’t make him an asshole. He may well be one, but not for that. Are you saying that if the directors of the British museum (or whichever museum) investigates how they acquired something, decides it was not fair/reasonable/equitable, and returns, they will be wrong to do so? Oh, and BTW, I suppose it was ok for the Nazis to loot the treasures of the countries they invaded a few years back. That too was the way of the world back then. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/33 "2011-04-20T19:59:26Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Ah right…you’re a prick. > > Thanks for the clarification. It saves time and uncertainty. Why am I a “prick” for pointing out what is obviously true. Do you think for two seconds that Batman Forever would have been made were it not for the Zionist media? ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/34 "2011-04-20T20:32:01Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Do you think for two seconds that Batman Forever would have been made were it not for the Zionist media? I thought for two seconds, then realized what a waste of time that was on such a stupid trolly question. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/35 "2011-04-20T20:40:38Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > I thought for two seconds, then realized what a waste of time that was on such a stupid trolly question. I think you guys are missing the (possible) joke here. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/36 "2011-04-20T20:44:18Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > I think you guys are missing the (possible) joke here. See that’s what I thought the first time round, which is why I asked. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/37 "2011-04-20T21:23:52Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Oh, and BTW, I suppose it was ok for the Nazis to loot the treasures of the countries they invaded a few years back. That too was the way of the world back then. Soviets did it, and we did it too. [at the governmental level, though individual soldiers did also loot, just not as grand a scale. The difference between us and the Soviets is we tended to try and find the owners {except for a bunch of Japanese Imperial stuff in the Naval museum I wandered through a while back}] ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/38 "2011-04-20T21:34:11Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > If the country is subjugated [like many mid eastern and asian countries were in colonial days and up through roughly 2nd world war] it _does not matter_ they were proper possessions of their conquerors. That was the way of the world through the second world war. I seem to remember the conquerors made up those rules themselves. Yes, that’s how the world worked for a long time and in many ways it still is. The conquered don’t have to like it, and it makes sense that Egypt’s top antiquities guy is trying to get Egyptian antiquities back in the country. > [@](#): > > If you want to whine about Egypt Wait, where did this thread come from? ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/39 "2011-04-20T22:12:13Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > I think you guys are missing the (possible) joke here. I thought the reference to Seth Rogen would cue people in. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980/40 "2011-04-20T22:15:29Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > I thought the reference to Seth Rogen would cue people in. You never make fun about Seth Rogen aka the “Second Holocaust”. There is nothing funny about it. Nothing. Nothing at all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-zahi-hawass-sideways/578980.md?page=3)