# Fuckers who do Death by Train. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 4, 2007, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768 "2007-12-04T11:17:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Bobotheoptimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@Bobotheoptimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bobotheoptimist)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/41 "2007-12-04T23:32:35Z")
[QUOTE=Wile E] Have they outlawed cars and garden hoses? A lot less messy and painless than shotguns. [/QUOTE] Think of all the greenhouse gases! Does that actually work? I can imagine some poor soul, Journey playing on the tape deck of a 25 year old beater, slowly wasting all their gas as the fumes dissipate through the gap in the door left by the hose. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/42 "2007-12-05T00:37:37Z")
Modern cars, doesn’t work so well anymore, as I understand it. Burn too clean. ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/43 "2007-12-05T00:47:24Z")
[QUOTE=Bobotheoptimist] Does that actually work? [/QUOTE] Not as well as it used to. From Wikipedia: > [@](#): > > In the past, before air-quality regulations and catalytic converters, suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning would often be achieved by running a car’s engine in a closed space such as a garage, or by redirecting a running car’s exhaust back inside the cabin with a hose. Motor car exhaust may have contained up to 25% carbon monoxide. However, catalytic converters can eliminate over 99% of carbon monoxide produced.[2] > > The incidence of suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning through burning charcoal within a confined space appears to have risen. This has been referred by some as “death by hibachi”. e: f,b ---
**Author:** ![BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/44 "2007-12-05T00:58:17Z")
ISTR a story about some kid who got drunk and fell asleep partially on tracks behind his house, and lost an arm. Then he did it again at some future date. I checked google but there are stories about people losing only one arm. Maybe it was just an UL. ---
**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/45 "2007-12-05T01:02:11Z")
[QUOTE=SnakesCatLady] While I do have just a bit of sympathy for the suicides - they _might_ not even be thinking of the effect their messy death will have on others and just be seeking a quick certain death - I wish I believed in hell for the ones who commit suicide by stupid. Hey! A train is cominig! I think I’ll try to outrun it! A guy I used to know was an engineer for a railway. A woman in her 40’s with her 20-somthing daughter in the car decided to outrun him when he was pulling about 75 loaded gravel hoppers. At around dusk. By the time he saw her there was no possible way to stop. I met him about 5 years after the accident and he still had nightmares about seeing the girl screaming and trying to climb over her mother to the other side of the car. Stupid twunt. Killed yourself - good riddance. Nice job taking your daughter with you, bitch. But you left a survivor who didn’t even know your stupid ass and who will never forget you. [/QUOTE] Yeah, google “Operation Lifesaver” for more about this. Also search YouTube for “truck versus train” or “car versus train”. Especially in the case of the trucks, the YouTube videos are unnerving - big semi trucks that seem so invincible on the road, and can total cars with barely a scratch themselves, literally _explode_ when the train goes through. Nonetheless, train crew can and do get injured/killed by these events, despite the relative strength of the train. The worst thing about those videos is listening to the endless sounding of the horn. In an auto accident, you might be aware of the impending impact for a fraction of a second - in the cab of a locomotive, it can be a good part of a minute. There was a level crossing in my state where five young guys were killed by a train. That has since been replaced by a bridge (good) which is named after them (BAD!). They don’t deserve the recognition - they were racing the train. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/46 "2007-12-05T01:26:31Z")
Although “Five Moron Bridge” does have a ring to it. ---
**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/47 "2007-12-05T01:56:24Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] Although “Five Moron Bridge” does have a ring to it. [/QUOTE] Y’know, there’s a graffiti op there. It’s called FIVE MATES BRIDGE, so a bit o’ paint should do the trick. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/48 "2007-12-05T02:52:10Z")
[QUOTE=E-Sabbath] Modern cars, doesn’t work so well anymore, as I understand it. Burn too clean. [/QUOTE] I didn’t really intend to discuss whether or not CO is a viable\* means of suicide. My comment was actually meant to be a jab at a previous posters anti-gun control comment in a thread about suicide by train. \*No anti-pun intended. Please ignore my previous hijack and carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/49 "2007-12-05T03:14:32Z")
[QUOTE=StarvingButStrong] My favor ‘least inconvenience to others’ way of suicide: Pretend to take up fishing as a hobby. Buy some fishing gear. Buy a small boat/canoe. Buy a photographers vest. Go to nearest BIG body of water with the above stuff really early some day. Fill each pocket of the vest with stones. Zip vest securely shut. Paddle out a respectible distance from shore. Step out of boat, leaving most of fishing gear behind. You will be dead, no one but fish and bottom dwellers will have to deal with corpse – and they’ll _like_ it – and your friends and family can choose to believe it was just an accident. Hey, just because your life sucks, no need to add more suckiness to other’s lives. [/QUOTE] Yeah, but what about a month later when I’m out on the lake with the old lady and the kids, having a beer, and hook into the biggest damned old catfish I never even dreamed about. Then after two hours I finally haul up your rotting carcass? Gotta do better than that. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/50 "2007-12-05T04:19:11Z")
If we’re throwing out horror stories, refreshing the board’s memory of [Juan Manuel Alvarez](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Manuel_Alvarez) seems apropos. ---
**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/51 "2007-12-05T04:22:04Z")
I’m seeing a somewhat compelling argument for the **Futurama** “Suicide Booths.” I can almost see an argument for suicide modes that put no third parties or survivors either at risk or otherwise impacted by the suicide. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/52 "2007-12-05T04:31:46Z")
I dont know… I totally sympathize with the people who’ve been traumatized by these suicides, but on the other hand we have a person who was fucked up so much that they decided to off themselves. Regardless of the motive, they are dead. Fucking dead. I dunno… it’s a shitty situation, but I cant bring myself to bear ire against somebody who offed themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/53 "2007-12-05T08:19:26Z")
[QUOTE=Wile E] Have they outlawed cars and garden hoses? A lot less messy and painless than shotguns. [/QUOTE] Yes, I agree…instantly blowing your head apart with a shotgun would be less painless than trying to asphyxiate yourself. 😛😉 ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/54 "2007-12-05T09:47:25Z")
I believe helium’s quite the thing. Doesn’t disfigure you the way CO does, and apparently you never even realize you’re suffocating because it’s keeping the CO[sub]2[/sub] out of your lungs (which is where the impulse to breathe comes from). And it’s quick enough that I’ve seen the odd warning against doing the funny-voice stunt. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/55 "2007-12-05T15:16:37Z")
[QUOTE=Klaatu] Yeah, but what about a month later when I’m out on the lake with the old lady and the kids, having a beer, and hook into the biggest damned old catfish I never even dreamed about. Then after two hours I finally haul up your rotting carcass? Gotta do better than that. :eek: [/QUOTE] Yeah, but all the fish you caught in the intervening month were extra fat and juicy thanks to me. Yummy! So it all balances out in the end. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/56 "2007-12-05T15:28:38Z")
[QUOTE=Klaatu] Yeah, but what about a month later when I’m out on the lake with the old lady and the kids, having a beer, and hook into the biggest damned old catfish I never even dreamed about. Then after two hours I finally haul up your rotting carcass? Gotta do better than that. :eek: [/QUOTE] I guess instead of the lake, you could use the swimming pool of the asshole neighbor you’ve always wanted to get back at. See how he likes his morning swim after that! ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/57 "2007-12-05T16:20:29Z")
I seem to recall an interview with some suicide attempt survivors that right after they jumped off the bridge it occurred to them - “This is a mistake.” ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/58 "2007-12-05T20:48:46Z")
[QUOTE=Ranchoth] Yes, I agree…instantly blowing your head apart with a shotgun would be less painless than trying to asphyxiate yourself. 😛😉 [/QUOTE] Less painless? Does that mean more painful? 😕 Personally, I could never do death by firearm. As a gun owner, it would bother me that the weapon wouldn’t be properly cleaned afterwards. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![bathsheba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@bathsheba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bathsheba)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/59 "2007-12-05T21:02:23Z")
[QUOTE=Malacandra] I believe helium’s quite the thing. Doesn’t disfigure you the way CO does, and apparently you never even realize you’re suffocating because it’s keeping the CO[sub]2[/sub] out of your lungs (which is where the impulse to breathe comes from). And it’s quick enough that I’ve seen the odd warning against doing the funny-voice stunt. [/QUOTE] I read it as “Warning: do not attempt funny-voice during the suicide process”. ---
**Author:** ![Dunawake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dunawake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunawake)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768/60 "2007-12-05T22:40:46Z")
[QUOTE=Poysyn] I seem to recall an interview with some suicide attempt survivors that right after they jumped off the bridge it occurred to them - “This is a mistake.” [/QUOTE] Regardless of how suicidal you are, I imagine your body’s inherent self-preservation instinct gets extremely loud and insistent right after you convince it to take that last step. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckers-who-do-death-by-train/428768.md?page=4)