# Fucking bitch

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 11, 2008, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900 "2008-05-11T07:30:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/201 "2008-05-13T02:55:34Z")

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[QUOTE=eleanorigby]  
I took your position from your first two posts. Did you think that calling names and being shrill required more elucidation? Are you going to try to say that your point is somehow finely nuanced?

Go on, pull the other one.

I might read that book, **db.**  
[/QUOTE]

My first post I basically said stop whining, because the OP was dramatic and annoying and did not elicit the sympathy from me that it was obviously attempting to. He/she replied with “fuck you”. If you _keep reading_, as is customary to do before replying, you might understand that I’m not a flag jockey or whatever the hell you erroneously think I am.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/202 "2008-05-13T03:03:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
I tend to think that my reading comprehension is pretty good, and what I’m getting from your posts in this thread is mostly, “Hey, everyone! I’ve decided to suddenly act like a gigantic cunt for no good reason! Whee!” If you had some other, subtler point, I’m afraid I’ve missed it.  
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Fair enough, but did you get “flag waver” out of it?

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/203 "2008-05-13T03:05:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Cisco]

> [@Broomstick](#):
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> If grandma screwed up baking an apple pie I’d say “Grandma, this pie didn’t come out right, it tastes bad”

Well, I wouldn’t.  
[/quote]

Yes. That was my point. You wouldn’t tell her the truth. In other words, you would lie either by commission (“Grandma, that was delicious!”) or by omission (by saying nothing). People who lie are liars. Why are you having trouble with this?

> [@](#):
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> You can’t see that this is a perfectly normal variation in our personalities and views?

You can’t see that I was raised in a family culture with a high standard of what is considered “honest” and you do not meet that standard?

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> You think it makes me a liar? You’re out of line.

I don’t _think_ it makes you a liar, I _know_ it makes you a liar. YOU’RE out of line if you think the world should adjust itself to your standard, which, where I come from, is unacceptably low on the truth meter.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/204 "2008-05-13T03:12:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Broomstick]  
Yes. That was my point. You wouldn’t tell her the truth. In other words, you would lie either by commission (“Grandma, that was delicious!”) or by omission (by saying nothing). People who lie are liars. Why are you having trouble with this?  
You can’t see that I was raised in a family culture with a high standard of what is considered “honest” and you do not meet that standard?  
I don’t _think_ it makes you a liar, I _know_ it makes you a liar. YOU’RE out of line if you think the world should adjust itself to your standard, which, where I come from, is unacceptably low on the truth meter.  
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😕 What the fuck? You’re an intolerant bitch. You know what? Fuck you. You don’t meet my standards of politeness. Cunt.

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**Author:** ![put\_down\_the\_sabre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@put\_down\_the\_sabre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/put_down_the_sabre)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/205 "2008-05-13T03:16:25Z")

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OK I’m going to bow out from this one now, tomorrow I return from whence I came.

**Cisco** , you are a cunt.

To those of you who agreed with me on this thread, or honestly disagreed - _ **thank you** _. To those of you of **Cisco** ’s ilk, who accused me of lying or otherwise engaged in _ad hominem_, _ **fuck you** _.

Oh and to those who argue that ‘limey pussy’ can’t be racist “because British isn’t a race”, are you the same literal-minded cretins (it really is a great word isn’t it!) who argue that Arabs can’t be anti-Semitic?

pdts

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/206 "2008-05-13T03:24:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Cisco]  
Fair enough, but did you get “flag waver” out of it?  
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Yes, overwhelmingly. Post 32 notwithstanding. If I may venture a metaphor, your posts in this thread have read something like this:

“I hate oranges.”

“Oranges are really disgusting.”

“Not only do I hate oranges, I hate people who like oranges, too.”

“Actually, oranges are quite tasty.”

“Oranges are the most disgusting blight on a fruit orchard since the serpent got Adam and Eve kicked out of the garden.”

Which is to say, the contents of post 32 are difficult, if not impossible, to reconcile with the rest of your posts to this thread, which are singularly jingoistic and narrow minded. And more than a little embarassing, as you seem to be laboring under the titanic misapprehension that you are making a good showing of yourself in this thread. If you’re at all open to well-intentioned advice, please, stop posting, turn off the computer, and go lie down in a darkened room, because you are doing yourself no favors by continuing in this vein.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/207 "2008-05-13T03:32:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Cisco]  
😕 What the fuck? You’re an intolerant bitch.  
[/quote]

At times, yes, I can be. In particular, I am intolerant of liars (among others) and bigots (see “limey pussy”). Being called nasty names does not make me convert to your viewpoint, nor does it make me run for the hills to hide.

> [@](#):
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> You know what? Fuck you. You don’t meet my standards of politeness.

Since your definition of “polite” includes dishonesty that bothers me not at all.

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> Cunt.

Yes. I own one. Your point is…?

I do wonder about someone who can proceed “standards of politeness” with “fuck you” and follow it up with “cunt”…

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**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/208 "2008-05-13T03:38:06Z")

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[QUOTE=put down the sabre]  
OK I’m going to bow out from this one now, tomorrow I return from whence I came.  
pdts  
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Don’t go yet. You haven’t explained how \<3% is a “very large proportion”. I’ll wait.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/209 "2008-05-13T03:45:01Z")

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You’re all a bunch of cunts you filthy motherfuckers!

Damn, that was fun!  
Marc

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/210 "2008-05-13T03:55:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Broomstick]  
At times, yes, I can be. In particular, I am intolerant of liars (among others) and bigots (see “limey pussy”). Being called nasty names does not make me convert to your viewpoint, nor does it make me run for the hills to hide.  
Since your definition of “polite” includes dishonesty that bothers me not at all.  
Yes. I own one. Your point is…?

I do wonder about someone who can proceed “standards of politeness” with “fuck you” and follow it up with “cunt”…  
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:rolleyes: Kiss my ass. Politeness goes out the window when you call me a liar. If “limey pussy” really got your goat - Jesus, I’ve never heard “limey” used in anger - it’s a fucking joke of a word. Get over it. None of my posts towards pdts were made in anger. **You** have made me angry. Look in a fucking mirror before you post next time.

And if you told my grandma her pie sucked I’d kick you in the balls you hag.

> [@Miller](#):
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> Yes, overwhelmingly. Post 32 notwithstanding. If I may venture a metaphor, your posts in this thread have read something like this:
> 
> “I hate oranges.”
> 
> “Oranges are really disgusting.”
> 
> “Not only do I hate oranges, I hate people who like oranges, too.”
> 
> “Actually, oranges are quite tasty.”
> 
> “Oranges are the most disgusting blight on a fruit orchard since the serpent got Adam and Eve kicked out of the garden.”
> 
> Which is to say, the contents of post 32 are difficult, if not impossible, to reconcile with the rest of your posts to this thread, which are singularly jingoistic and narrow minded. And more than a little embarassing, as you seem to be laboring under the titanic misapprehension that you are making a good showing of yourself in this thread. If you’re at all open to well-intentioned advice, please, stop posting, turn off the computer, and go lie down in a darkened room, because you are doing yourself no favors by continuing in this vein.

Well, I’m sorry you’ve misinterpreted me, then. And save your patronizing “go lie down in a darkened room” shit. I have a very robust life outside of the SDMB.

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/211 "2008-05-13T04:00:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Cisco]  
My first post I basically said stop whining, because the OP was dramatic and annoying and did not elicit the sympathy from me that it was obviously attempting to. He/she replied with “fuck you”. If you _keep reading_, as is customary to do before replying, you might understand that I’m not a flag jockey or whatever the hell you erroneously think I am.  
[/QUOTE]

Flag jockey? You have got to be shitting me. I don’t know whether to bust a nut laughing or call you an asshole. I’ll go for the laughs. 😃

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/212 "2008-05-13T04:08:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Carol Stream]  
Don’t go yet. You haven’t explained how \<3% is a “very large proportion”. I’ll wait.  
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Oh Carol? The OP can wait [while you apologize for talking out your ass.](http://pewresearch.org/pubs/525/who-flies-the-flag-not-always-who-you-might-think) That’s \*\*62% of Americans \*\* who said they display a flag at home, work, or on their car, from a Pew Research Center study. Even if only 1/3 of those flags are flown at home, that’s a fuck of a lot more than 3%. Unless you can offer a better cite?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/213 "2008-05-13T04:18:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Cisco]  
:rolleyes: Kiss my ass. Politeness goes out the window when you call me a liar. If “limey pussy” really got your goat - Jesus, I’ve never heard “limey” used in anger - it’s a fucking joke of a word. Get over it. None of my posts towards pdts were made in anger. **You** have made me angry. Look in a fucking mirror before you post next time.  
[/quote]

Which is funny, because I think most people would be hard pressed to discern the difference in tone between your posts to **Broomstick** , and your posts to **put down the saber**.

> [@](#):
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> Well, I’m sorry you’ve misinterpreted me, then. And save your patronizing “go lie down in a darkened room” shit. I have a very robust life outside of the SDMB.

Fantastic. Go out and do something robust, then. Just please, stop posting in this thread, before you make yourself look like even more of an ass than you already have.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/214 "2008-05-13T04:31:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
Which is funny, because I think most people would be hard pressed to discern the difference in tone between your posts to **Broomstick** , and your posts to **put down the saber**.

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Well, for one, I don’t believe I’ve used any instantly recognizable comedic terms like limey, tosser, or the “waa” bit in my posts towards Broomstick.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/215 "2008-05-13T04:38:27Z")

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You did threaten to kick a woman in the balls. Not exactly high comedy, but then, neither is “limey pussy.”

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/216 "2008-05-13T04:43:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
You did threaten to kick a woman in the balls. Not exactly high comedy, but then, neither is “limey pussy.”  
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Touché.

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**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/217 "2008-05-13T04:43:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
You did threaten to kick a woman in the balls. Not exactly high comedy, but then, neither is “limey pussy.”  
[/QUOTE]

Key Lime Pie?

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**Author:** ![InLucemEdita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7ab992/32.png) [@InLucemEdita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InLucemEdita)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/218 "2008-05-13T04:54:16Z")

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[QUOTE=put down the sabre]  
OK I’m going to bow out from this one now,  
[/QUOTE]

For the third time?

[QUOTE=put down the sabre]  
Oh and to those who argue that ‘limey pussy’ can’t be racist “because British isn’t a race”, are you the same literal-minded cretins (it really is a great word isn’t it!) who argue that Arabs can’t be anti-Semitic?  
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You do like Latin, don’t you…

How about “Non sequitor”?

That’s Latin for “Suck my cock, you Cheap Limey Whore.”

Ta.

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**Author:** ![DCTrekkie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dctrekkie/32/18862_2.png) [@DCTrekkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCTrekkie)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/219 "2008-05-13T07:50:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Carol Stream]  
And I disagree with your characterization. I walked my block today, and out of 35 houses, there was one flag. Less than 3%. How is that a “considerable number”, or a “very large proportion”, or even "10%', as has been claimed?

What I don’t get is why people are making shit up.  
[/QUOTE]

Um, this may sound stupid, but do you think perhaps that, whilst your area has very few flags out, other areas of the US may have lots. Perhaps my map is out of date, but I believe there’s more than one city in America. Also, as other people have said, there doesn’t have to be a huge percentage of flags, it’s just that there are more than in most European countries. The only time I really see flags over here, apart from on official buildings, is when there’s a sporting event going on. The rest of the time it seems like \<1%.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/220 "2008-05-13T09:07:22Z")

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You know, not only do I see a load and a half of Irish flags, I see a lot of Italian flags flying. Maybe there’s more to it than just patriotism.

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