# Fucking bitch

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 11, 2008, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900 "2008-05-11T07:30:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/221 "2008-05-13T09:12:15Z")

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[QUOTE=InLucemEdita]

How about “Non sequitor”?

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Where’s the _non-sequitor_?

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/222 "2008-05-13T10:59:45Z")

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[QUOTE=InLucemEdita]  
For the third time?

You do like Latin, don’t you…

How about “Non sequitor”?

That’s Latin for “Suck my cock, you Cheap Limey Whore.”

Ta.  
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No it isn’t.

It wouldn’t be even if you’d [spelled it](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur) [correctly](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ass_%28animal%29). All very well tossing around Latin tags to make yourself look learned, but I for one make it a rule never to use any deponent verb I can’t conjugate. 😛

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/223 "2008-05-13T11:10:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Malacandra]  
snip\ to use any deponent verb I can’t conjugate// snip  
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Are you coming on to me? 😉

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/224 "2008-05-13T11:13:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Omegaman]  
Are you coming on to me? 😉  
[/QUOTE]

I didn’t even know you were gay. I’m not. Perhaps we should discuss this like reasonable men. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/225 "2008-05-13T12:20:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Cisco]  
:rolleyes: Kiss my ass. Politeness goes out the window when you call me a liar.  
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The truth hurts, doesn’t it?

> [@](#):
>
> If “limey pussy” really got your goat - Jesus, I’ve never heard “limey” used in anger - it’s a fucking joke of a word.

I, personally, did not take offense but the person you referred to by that term was offended. I’m not sure if the “limey” or the “pussy” part was most offensive, but while you might have thought it was funny apparently others did not.

> [@](#):
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> And if you told my grandma her pie sucked I’d kick you in the balls you hag.

First of all, I did NOT say I’d tell grandma her pie “sucked”, I’d tell her the truth if it did not taste right or tasted bad. There is a difference between being truthful and being cruel, one you apparently are unable to discern.

You don’t seem to have a very strong grip on anatomy, either, as you are threatening to kick me in organs I don’t possess.

Really, you should get out of the house more so perhaps you’d understand that other people have different views of the world.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/226 "2008-05-13T12:29:49Z")

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But it’s all dark, warm and safe down in the cellar!

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/227 "2008-05-13T12:41:33Z")

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[QUOTE=DCTrekkie]  
Um, this may sound stupid, but do you think perhaps that, whilst your area has very few flags out, other areas of the US may have lots. Perhaps my map is out of date, but I believe there’s more than one city in America. Also, as other people have said, there doesn’t have to be a huge percentage of flags, it’s just that there are more than in most European countries. The only time I really see flags over here, apart from on official buildings, is when there’s a sporting event going on. The rest of the time it seems like \<1%.  
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Or, 60% of Americans say they show a flag in surveys, but only \<10% really do 🙂

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/228 "2008-05-13T12:57:23Z")

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You really should lighten up a shade, **Cisco**. There are a lot of English here that _I_ respect and I’m sure you do too.

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/229 "2008-05-13T12:59:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Malacandra]  
But it’s all dark, warm and safe down in the cellar!  
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Only because mom and dad are upstairs writing the checks for the monthly bills?

I should be ashamed of myself. I have got to stop cracking wise.

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**Author:** ![Grossbottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba8739/32.png) [@Grossbottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grossbottom)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/230 "2008-05-13T13:05:24Z")

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[QUOTE=E-Sabbath]  
You know, not only do I see a load and a half of Irish flags, I see a lot of Italian flags flying. Maybe there’s more to it than just patriotism.  
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The large British expat population where I live seems virtually compelled to slap a Union Jack on the backs of their cars. I guess they manage to overcome their natural, involuntary discomfort and genuine concern with flags causing the inevitable rise of nazism here in the United States. Very mature of them to play along with us like that.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/231 "2008-05-13T16:17:18Z")

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Might have something to do with the mixed nationalism of Americans. Might have something to do with the nature of the individual home and front lawn tradition. Might have something to do with aping the ‘upper classes’. Might have something to do with the 1950s Red Scare happening at the same time we suburbanized, giving the mental image of the perfect white picket fence home having a flag out front.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/232 "2008-05-13T16:46:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Broomstick]  
Really, you should get out of the house more so perhaps you’d understand that other people have different views of the world.  
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Coming from the person who responded to this:

> [@Cisco](#):
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> You can’t see that this is a perfectly normal variation in our personalities and views? You think it makes me a liar? You’re out of line.

with this:

> [@Broomstick](#):
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> You can’t see that I was raised in a family culture with a high standard of what is considered “honest” and you do not meet that standard? I don’t think it makes you a liar, I know it makes you a liar. YOU’RE out of line if you think the world should adjust itself to your standard, which, where I come from, is unacceptably low on the truth meter.

you’ll excuse me that all I have to say is this: :rolleyes:.

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**Author:** ![InLucemEdita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7ab992/32.png) [@InLucemEdita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InLucemEdita)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/233 "2008-05-13T17:04:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Malacandra]  
No it isn’t.

It wouldn’t be even if you’d [spelled it](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur) [correctly](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ass_%28animal%29). All very well tossing around Latin tags to make yourself look learned, but I for one make it a rule never to use any deponent verb I can’t conjugate. 😛  
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Did I spell “cock” correctly?

I may not have used it correctly either. I’m not sure about the hyphen rules in particular.

Is “ **Malacandra** is a cock-munch.” proper usage?

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**Author:** ![InLucemEdita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7ab992/32.png) [@InLucemEdita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InLucemEdita)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/234 "2008-05-13T17:10:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Capt. Ridley’s Shooting Party]  
Where’s the _non-sequitor_?  
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Watch out **Capt. Ridley** the spelling police will be after you.

The non-sequitur is right here:

[QUOTE=put down the sabre]  
Oh and to those who argue that ‘limey pussy’ can’t be racist “because British isn’t a race”, are you the same literal-minded cretins … who argue that Arabs can’t be anti-Semitic?  
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Whether or not a word is racist has nothing to do with whether or not a people can be self-hating. If you can’t see the flawed logic here, we have nothing to discuss.

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/235 "2008-05-13T17:15:50Z")

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[QUOTE=InLucemEdita]  
Did I spell “cock” correctly?

I may not have used it correctly either. I’m not sure about the hyphen rules in particular.

Is “ **Malacandra** is a cock-munch.” proper usage?  
[/QUOTE]

You guys and your big words.  
This thread is entertaining on so many levels.

Is **PDTS** back yet?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/236 "2008-05-13T17:20:37Z")

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[QUOTE=InLucemEdita]  
Whether or not a word is racist has nothing to do with whether or not a people can be self-hating. If you can’t see the flawed logic here, we have nothing to discuss.  
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No, the logic there works fine. It helps if you can actually understand what the sentence means, though. Here’s a hint: “self-hating” doesn’t enter into it.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/237 "2008-05-13T17:20:55Z")

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[QUOTE=InLucemEdita]  
Did I spell “cock” correctly?

I may not have used it correctly either. I’m not sure about the hyphen rules in particular.

Is “ **Malacandra** is a cock-munch.” proper usage?  
[/QUOTE]

Most people wouldn’t find it necessary to put the period inside the quotation marks in this context, but I’m not sure whether that’s a grammatical point or just a question of style, in which case _de gustibus non est disputandem_, as I’m sure you’d be the first to agree. For the rest, the phrase is proper usage as far as I’m concerned, merely false to facts. I’ll let someone else take you to task over using homophobic insults - that’s not a fight that exercises me enough to get into.

Now don’t snivel just because you wanted to look all learned and shit by talking about _non sequitur_s and ended up with your arse hanging out of your trousers. It’s hardly my fault. 😛

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**Author:** ![InLucemEdita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7ab992/32.png) [@InLucemEdita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InLucemEdita)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/238 "2008-05-13T17:25:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Malacandra]  
Most people wouldn’t find it necessary to put the period inside the quotation marks in this context, but I’m not sure whether that’s a grammatical point or just a question of style, in which case _de gustibus non est disputandem_, as I’m sure you’d be the first to agree. For the rest, the phrase is proper usage as far as I’m concerned, merely false to facts. I’ll let someone else take you to task over using homophobic insults - that’s not a fight that exercises me enough to get into.

Now don’t snivel just because you wanted to look all learned and shit by talking about _non sequitur_s and ended up with your arse hanging out of your trousers. It’s hardly my fault. 😛  
[/QUOTE]

Why do you perceive “cock-munch” as homophobic?

And, you’re right, I won’t be able to look myself in the mirror because of a spelling error. Thank goodness you were here to correct me. Your life has meaning.

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/239 "2008-05-13T17:32:17Z")

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[QUOTE=InLucemEdita]

That’s Latin for “Suck my cock, you Cheap Limey Whore.”

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Real classy there.

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**Author:** ![InLucemEdita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7ab992/32.png) [@InLucemEdita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InLucemEdita)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/240 "2008-05-13T17:40:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
No, the logic there works fine. It helps if you can actually understand what the sentence means, though. Here’s a hint: “self-hating” doesn’t enter into it.  
[/QUOTE]

No. It doesn’t.

Although the issue is way off topic, part of her flawed statement is obviously:

Arabs can’t be Anti-Semitic.  
Arabs can’t be Anti-Semitic because Arabs are a Semitic people.  
Arabs can’t hate Semitic peoples because they are a Semitic people.  
Arabs can’t be self-hating.

This is a flawed argument in and of itself given the definition of anti-Semitism, but it does involve “self-hating”. Asshole.

But the issue isn’t the flaw in this argument. The issue is that this flawed argument has nothing to do with whether or not “Limey” is racist. The Arab/anti-semite argument hinges on someone purposefully misconstruing the definition of anti-semite. There is no definition of “Limey” that is racist. No definition is being ignored or altered in its usage.

So, one doesn’t follow from the other, and the logic is flawed.

And you’re still an Asshole.

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