# Fucking bitch **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 11, 2008, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900 "2008-05-11T07:30:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/241 "2008-05-13T17:42:32Z")
[QUOTE=InLucemEdita] And you’re still an Asshole. [/QUOTE] You don’t have to capitalize _asshole_, you know. ---
**Author:** ![InLucemEdita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7ab992/32.png) [@InLucemEdita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InLucemEdita)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/242 "2008-05-13T17:43:07Z")
[QUOTE=villa] Real classy there. [/QUOTE] Sorry, you came to the pit for erudite conversation? Fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![InLucemEdita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7ab992/32.png) [@InLucemEdita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InLucemEdita)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/243 "2008-05-13T17:44:29Z")
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] You don’t have to capitalize _asshole_, you know. [/QUOTE] Don’t have to. Choose to. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/244 "2008-05-13T17:44:49Z")
No, but you people prove day in day out that one can post here without being a classless little toerag. You showed that you can’t. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/245 "2008-05-13T17:46:30Z")
[QUOTE=InLucemEdita] Sorry, you came to the pit for erudite conversation? Fuck off. [/QUOTE] You’ve been a member for four years and posted ~180 times… and you chose _this_ conversation to break your silence? ---
**Author:** ![InLucemEdita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7ab992/32.png) [@InLucemEdita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InLucemEdita)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/246 "2008-05-13T17:49:09Z")
[QUOTE=villa] No, but you people prove day in day out that one can post here without being a classless little toerag. You showed that you can’t. [/QUOTE] Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Care to add something of substance then? Or just came to bitch about the quality of the thread? Or my postings in particular? I’m sure everyone is thrilled to hear your opinion of MEEEE! Because I’m so important to you. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/247 "2008-05-13T18:06:20Z")
[QUOTE=InLucemEdita] No. It doesn’t. Although the issue is way off topic, part of her flawed statement is obviously: Arabs can’t be Anti-Semitic. Arabs can’t be Anti-Semitic because Arabs are a Semitic people. Arabs can’t hate Semitic peoples because they are a Semitic people. Arabs can’t be self-hating. This is a flawed argument in and of itself given the definition of anti-Semitism, but it does involve “self-hating”. Asshole. But the issue isn’t the flaw in this argument. The issue is that this flawed argument has nothing to do with whether or not “Limey” is racist. The Arab/anti-semite argument hinges on someone purposefully misconstruing the definition of anti-semite. There is no definition of “Limey” that is racist. No definition is being ignored or altered in its usage. So, one doesn’t follow from the other, and the logic is flawed. And you’re still an Asshole. [/QUOTE] Actually, that’s a pretty good point. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/248 "2008-05-13T18:27:42Z")
**Cisco** , what I find baffling is how you continually value “polite” lies over honest truth, then get vicious when it’s pointed out that other people have different values. Your definition of politeness - lie to avoid any negative at all, even when you are asked for a genuine opinion - I find offensive. Offensive to the point I don’t give a flying fuck whether you approve or not, or whether or not you call me nasty names. If you’d prefer to lie than tell me the truth when I ask for the truth then you are, by my standards, an untrustworthy person. Should we meet face-to-face I will know that I can trust _nothing_ you say to be the truth and I’d much rather NOT interact with such untrustworthy liars if I can help it at all. In other words - fuck off. I don’t give a shit about you. Why should I? I can’t trust you to speak the truth. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/249 "2008-05-13T18:50:20Z")
[QUOTE=InLucemEdita] Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Care to add something of substance then? Or just came to bitch about the quality of the thread? Or my postings in particular? I’m sure everyone is thrilled to hear your opinion of MEEEE! Because I’m so important to you. [/QUOTE] Try reading the thread. I was posting in it while you were working out what swear words would make you look big and clever, before you came in and decided you thought the OP was lying. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/250 "2008-05-13T18:53:46Z")
[QUOTE=Broomstick] **Cisco** , what I find baffling is how you continually value “polite” lies over honest truth, then get vicious when it’s pointed out that other people have different values. Your definition of politeness - lie to avoid any negative at all, even when you are asked for a genuine opinion - I find offensive. Offensive to the point I don’t give a flying fuck whether you approve or not, or whether or not you call me nasty names. If you’d prefer to lie than tell me the truth when I ask for the truth then you are, by my standards, an untrustworthy person. Should we meet face-to-face I will know that I can trust _nothing_ you say to be the truth and I’d much rather NOT interact with such untrustworthy liars if I can help it at all. In other words - fuck off. I don’t give a shit about you. Why should I? I can’t trust you to speak the truth. [/QUOTE] Shrieking hag. I repeat: your posts misrepresenting my views in this thread are far more dishonest than my views regarding etiquette. Which is fucking typical, because I’ve found in life that most people who are overly paranoid about being lied to are the worst liars themselves. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/251 "2008-05-13T19:00:52Z")
**Cisco** , in your first post in the thread you said someone should not criticize a place they are visiting. When does a person stop being a visitor? Is it OK for me to criticize the US after well more than 10 years here? ---
**Author:** ![InLucemEdita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7ab992/32.png) [@InLucemEdita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InLucemEdita)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/252 "2008-05-13T19:07:37Z")
[QUOTE=villa] Try reading the thread. [/QUOTE] Try blowing me. [QUOTE=villa] I was posting in it while you were working out what swear words would make you look big and clever, before you came in and decided you thought the OP was lying. [/QUOTE] I still think the OP was lying…or embellishing/coloring/shading the truth at least. And I know she’s comfortable with dishonesty given her false accusations of racism. And now I also think you’re a pussy who should stay out of the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/253 "2008-05-13T19:10:28Z")
[QUOTE=villa] **Cisco** , in your first post in the thread you said someone should not criticize a place they are visiting. When does a person stop being a visitor? Is it OK for me to criticize the US after well more than 10 years here? [/QUOTE] I don’t mean it should be against the law. Everybody’s so goddamn black-and-white here. I just mean you don’t walk into another man’s house and tell him his wallpaper looks like shit. It’s a general guideline. There are a million variables that might make it ok to greater or lesser degrees, but _as a general rule_, it’s rude. It’s not atrocious or ghastly or or earth-shattering. It’s just rude. The OP has every right to say whatever he or she wants wherever he or she wants to say it, but he (or she - this is getting old) should not have been surprised and should not have let it ruin his (or her) night when he (\ or she) chose to express that right in a public place and someone said the UK sucks too. I just personally cannot imagine being in another country and criticizing their culture in a public place, no matter how much I liked or didn’t like it. Again, for the slow, I’m not saying it should be a paddlin’. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/254 "2008-05-13T19:11:44Z")
You aren’t my type, sweetie. I think I am just fine where I am, but I appreciate your concern. My complaint wasn’t that you can’t post like that, or that you shouldn’t be allowed to post like that. It was that posting like that shows what a classless stain on humanity you are. But apparently you are fine with that. Oh well. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/255 "2008-05-13T19:13:31Z")
[QUOTE=Cisco] I don’t mean it should be against the law. Everybody’s so goddamn black-and-white here. I just mean you don’t walk into another man’s house and tell him his wallpaper looks like shit. It’s a general guideline. There are a million variables that might make it ok to greater or lesser degrees, but _as a general rule_, it’s rude. It’s not atrocious or ghastly or or earth-shattering. It’s just rude. The OP has every right to say whatever he or she wants wherever he or she wants to say it, but he (or she - this is getting old) should not have been surprised and should not have let it ruin his (or her) night when he (\ or she) chose to express that right in a public place and someone said the UK sucks too. I just personally cannot imagine being in another country and criticizing their culture in a public place, no matter how much I liked or didn’t like it. Again, for the slow, I’m not saying it should be a paddlin’. [/QUOTE] I don’t think that you mean it should be illegal. But you do think it is rude for a visitor to a country to say something critical after a year here. My question is genuine - when does it stop being rude? When does the person stop being a visitor in your estimation? ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/256 "2008-05-13T19:23:20Z")
[QUOTE=villa] I don’t think that you mean it should be illegal. But you do think it is rude for a visitor to a country to say something critical after a year here. My question is genuine - when does it stop being rude? When does the person stop being a visitor in your estimation? [/QUOTE] Too many variables to answer. And is this really an earnest question? It’s sort of like asking, “what day, exactly, did you start loving your wife?” If you’re trying to make a point just make your point. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/257 "2008-05-13T19:28:37Z")
[QUOTE=Cisco] I don’t mean it should be against the law. Everybody’s so goddamn black-and-white here. I just mean you don’t walk into another man’s house and tell him his wallpaper looks like shit. [/QUOTE] Sure, fine. But that’s not even close to the OP’s situation. A better analogy would be some random person inviting him/her to his favorite bar downtown and asking what he thought of the place. ---
**Author:** ![LilShieste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@LilShieste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilShieste)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/258 "2008-05-13T19:48:53Z")
Reading this thread is like watching a passenger train derail, crash into a nearby gas station, and explode. And then the survivors start eating each other. (I have no idea why I would voluntarily approach such a scene… it’s some weird compulsion, I guess.) First, I see no reason to think that the OP embellished, or lied about the details in their story. I could totally see such an argument breaking out - especially in a bar. Second, why is the OP expected to grow a thicker skin, instead of the other person in the argument? If **put down the sabre** is expected to just suck it up, then surely the woman in the bar should have been expected to do the same. > [@Cisco](#): > > I just mean you don’t walk into another man’s house and tell him his wallpaper looks like shit. You’ve accused the OP of doing this, but don’t you think the other woman in the bar was guilty of it, too? The OP was engaged in a conversation _not involving the woman_, yet she felt the need to jump in and tell the OP that their “wallpaper looks like shit.” ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/259 "2008-05-13T19:54:04Z")
[QUOTE=Cisco] Shrieking hag. I repeat: your posts misrepresenting my views in this thread are far more dishonest than my views regarding etiquette. Which is fucking typical, because I’ve found in life that most people who are overly paranoid about being lied to are the worst liars themselves. [/QUOTE] I did not misrepresent you - you said it is better to lie than to be honest when youre opinion is negative, even when asked for your honest opinion. I’m not “paranoid” about being lied to. I merely pointed out that you valuing “politeness” about truth means simply that I will never trust you. I am well aware that at least part of the time you will be telling the truth but frankly it’s tiresome to have to confirm the validity of everything you say through independent sources. So why bother? I also find it bizarre that you advocate polite lies in public discourse, yet you are so vehemently negetiave _on a public internet forum_. Do the rules change when you’re safely behind a modem and keyboard? ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/260 "2008-05-13T19:54:38Z")
[QUOTE=InLucemEdita] Try blowing me. I still think the OP was lying…or embellishing/coloring/shading the truth at least. And I know she’s comfortable with dishonesty given her false accusations of racism. And now I also think you’re a pussy who should stay out of the Pit. [/QUOTE] Well, I’m not a pussy - the Pit is my favorite forum - and I still think you’re coming across as stupid fucking dick. I’d be willing to bet you’re a fattie, too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900.md?page=14)