# Fucking bitch

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 11, 2008, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900 "2008-05-11T07:30:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 14

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**Author:** ![InLucemEdita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7ab992/32.png) [@InLucemEdita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InLucemEdita)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/261 "2008-05-13T20:02:15Z")

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[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird]  
Well, I’m not a pussy - the Pit is my favorite forum - and I still think you’re coming across as stupid fucking dick. I’d be willing to bet you’re a fattie, too.  
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Classless stain on humanity?  
Stupid fucking dick?  
Fattie?

Come on **Villa** , **Woody** at least give me something that will motivate me.

Maybe find a spelling error or something…

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/262 "2008-05-13T20:06:09Z")

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> [@LilShieste](#):
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> You’ve accused the OP of doing this, but don’t you think the other woman in the bar was guilty of it, too?

Out of curiousity, are you intentionally misrepresenting me, or did you genuinely miss most of my posts, including post #5 on the first page where I said:

“[OP is] obviously just as big of an idiot as [woman at bar] is.”

?

[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]  
Sure, fine. But that’s not even close to the OP’s situation. A better analogy would be some random person inviting him/her to his favorite bar downtown and asking what he thought of the place.  
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See, this is where you and I can [hopefully] disagree like rational adults, while **Broomstick** runs around screaming like her hair is on fire.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/263 "2008-05-13T20:09:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Cisco]  
II just mean you don’t walk into another man’s house and tell him his wallpaper looks like shit.  
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Just as you shouldn’t walk into another person’s conversation uninvited and say that their solicited opinion sounds like shit. Right? If we’re going to apply rules of politeness across all conversations equally and without bias.

> [@](#):
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> There are a million variables that might make it ok to greater or lesser degrees, but _as a general rule_, it’s rude.

Eavesdropping is rude. Offering your unsolicited opinion about another person’s conversation is rude. I don’t see how what the OP did is rude. I’m really not being dense, I just do not see it.

> [@](#):
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> The OP has every right to say whatever he or she wants wherever he or she wants to say it, but he (or she - this is getting old) should not have been surprised and should not have let it ruin his (or her) night when he (\<gasp\> or she) chose to express that right in a public place and someone said the UK sucks too.

Where did the OP say anything sucks? And are people not entitled to be surprised when strangers jump into a private conversation to belittle their system of government? It seems like a big escalation, from “all the flags here seem weird” to “your system of government disqualifies you from having an opinion about this.”

> [@](#):
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> I just personally cannot imagine being in another country and criticizing their culture in a public place, no matter how much I liked or didn’t like it. Again, for the slow, I’m not saying it should be a paddlin’.

The OP was asked her opinion by her friends. Isn’t one of the things we value most highly about America is the freedom to express an opinion, even an unpopular one? I would think with your value of politeness and patriotism you’d have more harsh words for the extremely rude woman than the OP. I cannot see where you’re coming from, nor some of the other posters in this thread who have been extremely hostile. Is there some history with \*\*put down the sabre \*\* that I’m unaware of that is motivating all the vitriol here?

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**Author:** ![Grossbottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba8739/32.png) [@Grossbottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grossbottom)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/264 "2008-05-13T20:14:06Z")

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[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird]  
Well, I’m not a pussy - the Pit is my favorite forum - and I still think you’re coming across as stupid fucking dick. I’d be willing to bet you’re a fattie, too.  
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do you mean fat like with a “ph” or just fat like ground zero of the Obesity Epidemic

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/265 "2008-05-13T20:20:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Grossbottom]  
do you mean fat like with a “ph” or just fat like ground zero of the Obesity Epidemic  
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Whichever you consider worse, doesn’t matter to me. I figured this thread had just devolved to hateful, pointlessly profane name-calling as some sort of display of machismo, so I thought I’d contribute. I am a paying member, after all.

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**Author:** ![Grossbottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba8739/32.png) [@Grossbottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grossbottom)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/266 "2008-05-13T20:29:02Z")

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[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird]  
Whichever you consider worse, doesn’t matter to me. I figured this thread had just devolved to hateful, pointlessly profane name-calling as some sort of display of machismo, so I thought I’d contribute. I am a paying member, after all.  
[/QUOTE]

yeah i wanted to resubscribe but fatties stole my ten dolars and used to buy bacon and cheetos so I don’t know what to do?

oh well

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**Author:** ![LilShieste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@LilShieste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilShieste)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/267 "2008-05-13T20:36:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Cisco]  
Out of curiousity, are you intentionally misrepresenting me, or did you genuinely miss most of my posts, including post #5 on the first page where I said:

“[OP is] obviously just as big of an idiot as [woman at bar] is.”

?  
[/quote]

I was not trying to misrepresent you - I apologize for missing that. Truth be told, though, I stopped reading your post #5 after “Wah wah wah, I’m a limey pussy,” because I assumed the rest would be devoid of any real substance.

In any case, I don’t completely equate what the woman’s actions with the OP’s. I think it’s _much_ more rude for a stranger to inject their own comments into a private conversation, than it is for someone to “criticize” a place they’re visiting (especially if the criticism was invited by a party involved in the conversation).

OTOH, the OP didn’t have to include the woman in the conversation (i.e., could have tried ignoring her comment, and moving on), so… no sympathy for that part.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/268 "2008-05-13T20:42:31Z")

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Mmmm. Limey Pussy.

I once went down on a girl who tasted just like strawberries. I wonder how lime would be?

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/269 "2008-05-13T21:30:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Cisco]  
Out of curiousity, are you intentionally misrepresenting me, or did you genuinely miss most of my posts  
[/quote]

You keep saying this - that people are misinterpreting you. Maybe if the feedback you’re getting is so different from what you expect the problem isn’t misinterpretation, it’s that you’re coming across far differently than you think you are.

> [@](#):
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> while **Broomstick** runs around screaming like her hair is on fire.

Oh, please - all I said is that I don’t trust liars such as yourself. That’s _hardly_ “hair on fire” screaming.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/270 "2008-05-13T22:44:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Cisco]  
My first post I basically said stop whining, because the OP was dramatic and annoying and did not elicit the sympathy from me that it was obviously attempting to. He/she replied with “fuck you”. If you _keep reading_, as is customary to do before replying, you might understand that I’m not a flag jockey or whatever the hell you erroneously think I am.  
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I didn’t say you were. I asked you to go wave a flag somewhere else, plus I said you were shrill and out of line. You still are–and I haven’t even read pages 5 and 6 yet! I’m sure your sparkling prose will pique even my jaded palate. Or not.

The OP gets to complain about things that she doesn’t like about our country. It’s called having an opinion–in this case, an opinion that was asked for. Why do you care what one British person thinks about the USA? What possible difference can it make to you or this nation?

The OP was not out of line to be irked by the drunk–you are way out of line to be so irritated by this thread. I see you still are, after reading page 6.

**Miller,** may I buy you a drink? I was short with you a ways back in a different thread, and I’d like to make amends to someone who is so sensible. We’ll bring the OP and have a discussion about what constitutes rude behavior in visitors and the citizenry. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/271 "2008-05-14T02:01:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Grossbottom]  
yeah i wanted to resubscribe but fatties stole my ten dolars and used to buy bacon and cheetos so I don’t know what to do?

oh well  
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Fuck me runnin!

I gotta get diaper. I’m about to shit myself I’m laughing so hard!

You guys are the BEST!

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**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/272 "2008-05-14T04:22:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
Oh Carol? The OP can wait [while you apologize for talking out your ass.](http://pewresearch.org/pubs/525/who-flies-the-flag-not-always-who-you-might-think) That’s \*\*62% of Americans \*\* who said they display a flag at home, work, or on their car, from a Pew Research Center study. Even if only 1/3 of those flags are flown at home, that’s a fuck of a lot more than 3%. Unless you can offer a better cite?  
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And here’s what TLDR Jr. said:

> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by put down the sabre  
> This is false, in my experience, though I am in the South. Especially when you get outside of town around here, a very large proportion of houses has a US flag outside.

Your own cite says that there are FEWER flags in the South. So ptds, or whatever, is an ignorant child, or, a troll with an agenda.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/273 "2008-05-14T04:51:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Broomstick]  
You keep saying this - that people are misinterpreting you. Maybe if the feedback you’re getting is so different from what you expect the problem isn’t misinterpretation, it’s that you’re coming across far differently than you think you are.  
[/quote]  
What the fuck is your problem and/or personal beef with me? Why don’t you let people speak for themselves you loud-mouth? Your post is in direct contradiction to LilShieste’s just above you.

> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Oh, please - all I said is that I don’t trust liars such as yourself. That’s _hardly_ “hair on fire” screaming.

:rolleyes: Whatever, liar.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/274 "2008-05-14T05:39:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Carol Stream]

Your own cite says that there are FEWER flags in the South. So ptds, or whatever, is an ignorant child, or, a troll with an agenda.  
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From Rubystreak’s cite

> [@](#):
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> Roughly seven-in-ten residents of the Northeast (69%) say they fly the flag, compared with 67% in the Midwest, 58% in the South, and 57% in the West.

So aside from it being below the average of 62%, it still means every other house is likely to be displaying a flag.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/275 "2008-05-14T06:41:37Z")

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I read the OP as he or she was having a discussion with American friends in a bar in America and said friends, not the bystander, asked for the OP’s opinion of the good and bad in America. That’s still a private conversation, isn’t it? After all, the OP wasn’t standing on a soap-box\* (no, I’m not that old, it’s just an expression) pontificating to all and sundry how awful the US is. And even in the US, foreigners have the right to criticize the country.

The bystander who interrupted was rude.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/276 "2008-05-14T07:35:11Z")

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[QUOTE=brewha]  
Mmmm. Limey Pussy.

I once went down on a girl who tasted just like strawberries. I wonder how lime would be?  
[/QUOTE]

I think she’d be a little tart. 😛

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/277 "2008-05-14T07:40:28Z")

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[QUOTE=InLucemEdita]  
Why do you perceive “cock-munch” as homophobic?  
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Oh, I don’t. But some people get sand in their vaginas over it because cock-munching is something that only gays do and so by calling someone a cock-munch you’re implying they’re gay, and since by implication you’re intending it as an insult it therefore means that you think being called gay is an insult, and hence that there is something wrong with being gay. Feel free to nitpick this line of argument, which I’m only quoting for context and am not personally attached to.

> [@InLucemEdita](#):
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> And, you’re right, I won’t be able to look myself in the mirror because of a spelling error. Thank goodness you were here to correct me. Your life has meaning.

My dear fellow, it’s not for me to speculate on what does and does not motivate you to look in the mirror. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Carson\_O\_Genic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cdc98d/32.png) [@Carson\_O\_Genic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carson_O_Genic)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/278 "2008-05-14T11:52:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Malacandra]  
I think she’d be a little tart. 😛  
[/QUOTE]

Most excellent!

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/279 "2008-05-14T12:15:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Carol Stream]  
Your own cite says that there are FEWER flags in the South. So ptds, or whatever, is an ignorant child, or, a troll with an agenda.  
[/QUOTE]

You said less than 3% of houses had flags and accused other people of making shit up. A cite has been offered that even in the South, an average of every other person displays the flag somewhere out in the open. I think it’s time for you to admit that you were making shit up. The OP’s characterization that there are lots of flags everywhere seems to be borne out by statistics. Unless you can offer a better cite that the random stat you pulled out your ass based on you walking around?

And you calling someone else a troll with an agenda… does that burn on its way out? It ought to, something terrible.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/280 "2008-05-14T12:40:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Cisco]  
What the fuck is your problem and/or personal beef with me?  
[/quote]

I find your insistence on never criticizing anything, _even when asked for an honest opinion_, to the point of actual lying, to be repugnant and a sign that you are an untrustworthy person.

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