# Fucking bitch **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 11, 2008, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900 "2008-05-11T07:30:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Carson\_O\_Genic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cdc98d/32.png) [@Carson\_O\_Genic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carson_O_Genic)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/381 "2008-05-18T11:30:58Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] Yes, I know of them, even if I’m not local to Kroonstad (any more). They were a bit in the news with the Boeremag trial. Why do you ask? [/QUOTE] ``` I have a number of questions regarding them that remain unanswered despite web search. ( I'm Stateside,BTW ) Frankly, they alarm me. Your mention of Boeremag tends to confirm perception. ``` Your responding would be informative, but I won’t proceed without your consent. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/382 "2008-05-18T14:14:59Z")
[QUOTE=Ogre] Sweet Jesus. Is it a full moon out or something? You’re all idiots. Every goddamned one of you. [/QUOTE] Finally, some recognition! ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/383 "2008-05-20T19:45:58Z")
[QUOTE=Carson O’Genic] I have a number of questions regarding them that remain unanswered despite web search. ( I’m Stateside,BTW ) Frankly, they alarm me. Your mention of Boeremag tends to confirm perception. Your responding would be informative, but I won’t proceed without your consent. [/QUOTE] Ask away, but like I said, I just know stuff from the news. I take it you’ve found [their own website](http://lewendehoop.com/page/4/wie-is-ons)? They seem like a mix of the already highly-similar threads of [Afrikaner Calvinism](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrikaner_Calvinism#Folk_Religion) and Christian Identity. ---
**Author:** ![Carson\_O\_Genic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cdc98d/32.png) [@Carson\_O\_Genic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carson_O_Genic)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/384 "2008-05-21T11:09:11Z")
MrDibble, no, I hadn’t found their site, thank you. I surmised their NGK connection and C.I. inclusion. Did they originate in the O.F.S.? Have they spread from there, now being nationwide? Do they proselytise, and to whom does the message appeal? Is there a generalised public perception of them, e.g., here the KKK is considered fringe, not mainstream, despite still prevalent racism. Apart from the Boeremag link, does L.H. have criminal connotation? ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/385 "2008-05-21T12:15:00Z")
Jesus Christ, somebody expresses an opinion and somebody gets upset about it. So what? It happens on these boards every day, big deal. It’s not rude to tell the truth when asked an opinion, but be prepared to hear from the peanut gallery when they don’t like your opinion. It’s simple. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/386 "2008-05-21T12:34:32Z")
No, no, no, let’s not start this again. It had nicely petered out into a bizarro tangent about something called the Boeremag (whatever they might be). Can it just die now? ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/387 "2008-05-21T13:33:34Z")
I guess I do have a flag fetish afterall. Memorial Day is coming up and you know what that means. Cheap USA flags on sticks everywhere! I have two, I bungied one to a pole, and stuck one in the beachsand. My neighbor is flying his stars and stripes but the stars are in the shape of a peace sign. Annd one of my kids has a stars and stripes backpack (a remake of the classic 1968 Jantzen model). MY SO has hung on to his stars and stripes easy rider motorcycle helmet . Admit it our flag , the stars and stripes in RWB kicks ass and puts all other flag designs to shame. ---
**Author:** ![Vorpal\_Blade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9de0a6/32.png) [@Vorpal\_Blade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vorpal_Blade)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/388 "2008-05-21T18:02:23Z")
[QUOTE=Cisco] In my world, a bar conversation is not private, and you don’t talk shit when you’re the new kid. Different strokes for different folks and all that. [/QUOTE] Your world seems basically fucked up, troll. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/389 "2008-05-21T18:28:21Z")
[QUOTE=chela] I guess I do have a flag fetish afterall. Memorial Day is coming up and you know what that means. Cheap USA flags on sticks everywhere! I have two, I bungied one to a pole, and stuck one in the beachsand. My neighbor is flying his stars and stripes but the stars are in the shape of a peace sign. Annd one of my kids has a stars and stripes backpack (a remake of the classic 1968 Jantzen model). MY SO has hung on to his stars and stripes easy rider motorcycle helmet . Admit it our flag , the stars and stripes in RWB kicks ass and puts all other flag designs to shame. [/QUOTE] WELL WOOO HOOOO!!! Welcome to the club pardner! Omega P. Mann at your service ! Sally right up to the refreshment table and have Sparky pour you a cold one! MMMmmmmmmm… That’s good, idn’t it? We’re having a special this week on flag poles and spot lights! Free installation with any pole over thirty feet. Mods: Please attempt to forgive my bold and patriotic transgressions. No further attempts will be made by myself to bring humor to this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Spiny\_Norman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Spiny\_Norman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiny_Norman)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/390 "2008-05-21T20:09:08Z")
[QUOTE=Mighty\_Girl] My husband is Danish. Those are the people who have taken flag-loving to a extreme that Americans dare not meet. Flags on birthday cakes, for Og’s sake! [/QUOTE] Heh, I actually **am** Danish and just returned from a week in the old country. And yes, the Danes are completely over the top when it comes to thinking up reasons (and ways) to show the flag. The stores are open an additional 4 hours this weekend? Line the streets with flags! That being said, I don’t see any overly nationalistic overtones - the flag is as much a symbol of celebration as it is a national symbol. A pledge of allegiance to the flag? Fuggeddaboutit. Danes are not good at taking that kind of stuff seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/391 "2008-05-21T20:22:07Z")
[QUOTE=chela] Admit it our flag , the stars and stripes in RWB kicks ass and puts all other flag designs to shame. [/QUOTE] What? It’s derivative and slightly redundant, though admittedly cool-looking. Personally, I’ve always felt that [Bahrain](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Bahrain.svg) has the coolest flag. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/392 "2008-05-21T20:36:40Z")
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] What? It’s derivative and slightly redundant, though admittedly cool-looking. Personally, I’ve always felt that [Bahrain](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Bahrain.svg) has the coolest flag. [/QUOTE] Eh, that’s just Qatar’s flag a different color. Hunderwasser’s [alternate New Zealandi](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Koru_flag.svg) flag is pretty neat, as well as is the [Maori flag.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Maori.svg) As for official flags, I’ve always loved [South Korea’s](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_South_Korea.svg), and [Nepal](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Nepal.svg) is too cool for quadrilaterals. [FYROM](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Flag_of_Macedonia.svg)’s (Former Yugoslavian Rupublic of Macedonia has some nice coloring and forceful diagonals. But, yeah, the stars and stripes is up there in my top five. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2008, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/393 "2008-05-23T18:40:43Z")
[QUOTE=Carson O’Genic] MrDibble, no, I hadn’t found their site, thank you. I surmised their NGK connection and C.I. inclusion. Did they originate in the O.F.S.? [/QUOTE] From what I can tell, on the border of the FS and Gauteng [QUOTE=Carson O’Genic] ``` Have they spread from there, now being nationwide? ``` [/QUOTE] No, they’re pretty marginal [QUOTE=Carson O’Genic] ``` Do they proselytise, and to whom does the message appeal? ``` [/QUOTE] Right Wing nutbars, same as in the US [QUOTE=Carson O’Genic] ``` Is there a generalised public perception of them, e.g., here the KKK is considered fringe, not mainstream, despite still prevalent racism. ``` [/QUOTE] They’re considered pretty fringe - not because of the racism as much as the millenialism [QUOTE=Carson O’Genic] ``` Apart from the Boeremag link, does L.H. have criminal connotation? ``` [/QUOTE] Not that I’m aware of. At least, they still exist. ---
**Author:** ![Carson\_O\_Genic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cdc98d/32.png) [@Carson\_O\_Genic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carson_O_Genic)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/394 "2008-05-24T00:17:08Z")
Thanks for the response Mr. Dibble. I know an American who is deep into it ( L.H.) and wondered WTF happened to him. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/395 "2008-05-24T00:27:18Z")
Every time this thread is back at the top, I chuckle, amazed that you’re still fighting. It’s like the old cartoon fights where they show the sun rising, and setting, and rising again, and then the camera goes back to the fight and it’s still going on. Gold! ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/396 "2008-05-24T21:17:45Z")
[QUOTE=pedescribe] Every time this thread is back at the top, I chuckle, amazed that you’re still fighting. It’s like the old cartoon fights where they show the sun rising, and setting, and rising again, and then the camera goes back to the fight and it’s still going on. Gold! [/QUOTE] What makes me chuckle is morons like yourself who are always hunting for excuses to feel smug superiority. If you actually looked you’d see that there really isn’t any argument going on anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/397 "2008-05-24T21:58:48Z")
Not worth it. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/398 "2008-05-24T23:08:28Z")
[QUOTE=Ogre] Sweet Jesus. Is it a full moon out or something? You’re all idiots. Every goddamned one of you. [/QUOTE] Two thoughts: 1. That’s damn funny. I seriously laughed out loud. 2. The fact that you would post in the “you’re all idiots” thread implies you should be included in that group also, which doesn’t reduce the humor at all, it actually makes it a little more complex and interesting. Of course the fact that I’ve just posted makes me guilty as well. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/399 "2008-05-25T09:12:08Z")
[QUOTE=CarnalK] What makes me chuckle is morons like yourself who are always hunting for excuses to feel smug superiority. If you actually looked you’d see that there really isn’t any argument going on anymore. [/QUOTE] Well, life’s like that, I mean, there are websites out there devoted to people whose sole aim is to looks for excuses to feel smug superiority. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900/400 "2008-05-25T10:32:36Z")
[QUOTE=Malacandra] Well, life’s like that, I mean, there are websites out there devoted to people whose sole aim is to looks for excuses to feel smug superiority. [/QUOTE] O.K.. I’ve been feeling a little low lately so I’m just going to say it. Cite? I hope you guys don’t think any less of me. I just couldn’t bear that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bitch/448900.md?page=21)