# Fucking Bullshit - Enron

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 25, 2006, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190 "2006-05-25T16:30:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jebus\_H.Christ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Jebus\_H.Christ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jebus_H.Christ)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/1 "2006-05-25T16:30:45Z")

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These guys did nothing illegal. This sucks. Hopefully, things will be corrected on appeal, but I doubt it. This was a railroad job.

Fuck the government and this whole PR trial.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/2 "2006-05-25T16:34:22Z")

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What color is the sky on your planet?

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/3 "2006-05-25T16:40:06Z")

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> [@NurseCarmen](#):
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> What color is the sky on your planet?

I’m guessing red. Is it red?

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/4 "2006-05-25T16:41:35Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> I’m guessing red. Is it red?

No no no no. I’m thinking it’s in a whole different realm, another dimension. Like the color of the sky on his planet is 9.

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/5 "2006-05-25T16:42:13Z")

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Nah, he probably doesn’t know. From previous posts, I’d say he keeps eyes squinched shut and his fingers in his ears most of the time.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/6 "2006-05-25T16:44:29Z")

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> [@Maureen](#):
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> Nah, he probably doesn’t know. From previous posts, I’d say he keeps eyes squinched shut and his fingers in his ears most of the time.

Umm… 😕

Why do you need to look at other threads to figure that out? This one ain’t good enough for ya, eh?

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/7 "2006-05-25T16:45:19Z")

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> [@Jebus H. Christ](#):
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> These guys did nothing illegal.

Really? And how did you come to that conclusion?

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/8 "2006-05-25T16:50:15Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> Umm… 😕
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> Why do you need to look at other threads to figure that out? This one ain’t good enough for ya, eh?

Oh, no, this is plenty. It’s just that this, in conjunction with an opinion that there’s a racist conspiracy among sportswriters to paint Barry Bonds as a villain when he is, in fact, the greatest baseball player who has ever lived and has never done anything to bring bad opinion on himself, _evar_…well let’s just say that paints a very detailed picture for me.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/9 "2006-05-25T16:51:48Z")

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I don’t know about the sky, but apparently it’s a planet where fraud is legal.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/10 "2006-05-25T16:52:16Z")

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From [the Chicago Tribune](http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-060525enron-verdict,0,4027682.story?coll=chi-newsbreaking-hed) :

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> Lay, 64, and Skilling, 52, face at least 25 years each in prison after being convicted of using off-the-books partnerships to manipulate Enron’s finances. Skilling faces additional jail time over his conviction for using inside information to sell Enron stock.

Fraudulent accounting and insider trading both count as serious crimes in my opinion, especially done oin the Enron scale.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/11 "2006-05-25T16:53:08Z")

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> [@Larry Borgia](#):
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> I don’t know about the sky, but apparently it’s a planet where fraud is legal.

Oops. there was supposed to be a quote of **Nurse Carmen’s** post in my post.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/12 "2006-05-25T16:55:09Z")

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They were guilty as hell. They will probably never get out of prison. Sometimes, the system works.

I almost forgot… the OP is full of shit.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/13 "2006-05-25T16:58:10Z")

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> [@Maureen](#):
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> Oh, no, this is plenty. It’s just that this, in conjunction with an opinion that there’s a racist conspiracy among sportswriters to paint Barry Bonds as a villain when he is, in fact, the greatest baseball player who has ever lived and has never done anything to bring bad opinion on himself, _evar_…well let’s just say that paints a very detailed picture for me.

Well, yeah, if you want to look at _all_ the evidence, then sure. Sheesh, let’s let facts get in the way of our delusions. 😛

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/14 "2006-05-25T16:58:55Z")

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> [@Jebus H. Christ](#):
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> These guys did nothing illegal.

Jury just said otherwise, chump.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/15 "2006-05-25T16:59:03Z")

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**Jebus** , my friend, you need to read a book or two on the Enron debacle. There are several good ones. Start perhaps with The Smartest Guys In The Room. If you come away from that experience spouting the same inane bullshit, please keep it to yourself.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/16 "2006-05-25T16:59:17Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> They will probably never get out of prison.

Think so? I bet they don’t spend more than a couple of years in jail. I’m betting they’re out by February 2009.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/17 "2006-05-25T17:00:10Z")

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In **Jebus** ’ world, the only crime is punishment.

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/18 "2006-05-25T17:01:50Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> Well, yeah, if you want to look at _all_ the evidence, then sure. Sheesh, let’s let facts get in the way of our delusions. 😛

You’ll be telling me next he is not the real Jesus, Son of God and founder of Christianity.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/19 "2006-05-25T17:09:50Z")

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He ain’t _my_ personal savior, I’ll tell you that much.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-bullshit-enron/358190/20 "2006-05-25T17:11:18Z")

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Dude, write a book; _Gullible’s Travels._

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