# Fucking debators... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 4, 2000, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591 "2000-10-04T05:13:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/1 "2000-10-04T05:13:00Z")
Watching them right now. Gore won’t answer the question, instead he gives an opening statement. Bush rebukes with another opening statement. After Luhring said explicitly, “NO OPENING STATEMENTS.” Fuckers. Gore makes it sound like the government is taking money from poor people and giving it torich people refunds. No, it is a proportional refund. It was their money to begin with. Bush isn’t even a “real” Republican. Fuckers. ---
**Author:** ![Monster104](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Monster104](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monster104)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/2 "2000-10-04T05:17:15Z")
Gore also seems to have a thing for breathing deeply and loudly whenever Bush starts making a good point. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisCTP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@ChrisCTP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChrisCTP)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/3 "2000-10-04T05:27:48Z")
I loved how Dubya would smile that Campaign Smile at the end of every response. :::snicker::: And how he’d get all pissy and start in on the “what about the last seven years?” stuff every five minutes. How cute. Or like when he’d call Gore’s numbers “phony”. Awwww… Gore-baby sure had a hard-on for the “wealthiest 1%” didn’t he? Hell with both of 'em. I don’t like censors. Is it too late for Denis Leary to join the race? ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/4 "2000-10-04T05:49:41Z")
Here’s what I noticed. Bush was very good at the parts of the debate he prepared for. However, if he didn’t see a question coming, or hadn’t prepared well, he turned into a stammering moron. And Gore, not content with Bush looking like a stammering moron, turned into Barry Scheck. “How about THAT, Governor Bush!” Kept interrupting him and basically wouldn’t shut up. So Bush looked like a complete ninny, and Gore looked like a sadistic bully. Frankly, a sadistic bully probably has more of what it takes to be President, but still–can we possibly get “None of the Above” on the ballot? ---
**Author:** ![Idnew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/278dde/32.png) [@Idnew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idnew)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/5 "2000-10-04T05:53:35Z")
NO!!! ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/6 "2000-10-04T05:54:56Z")
It was just an annoying debate. Some parts were good, and Bush did better than most people probably expected (I didn’t notice any "subliminable"s, did you? :D), but sheesh… too much “what are we supposed to be doing?” from both sides. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/7 "2000-10-04T10:35:48Z")
We need Jesse ‘the Body’ Ventura in the White House! ---
**Author:** ![Homer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df788c/32.png) [@Homer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homer)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/8 "2000-10-04T14:21:10Z")
Oh God no! Jesse “The Mind” is exactly what we DON’T need! Talk about a pop-politician. –Tim ---
**Author:** ![Freyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freyr/32/5763_2.png) [@Freyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freyr)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/9 "2000-10-04T14:36:55Z")
I was surprised by how well the Gov did. He was calm and poised, most of the time. The Veep was animated and talkative, prehaps too much, but _shrug_ But _ **DAMN** _, if either of them talks about some senior citizen out in the audience with their pet poodle and their Winnebago, I hope the moderator pulls out an Uzi and opens fire! ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/10 "2000-10-04T14:41:35Z")
Is it just me, or did Al Gore remind you of Ronald Reagan (in appearence). As Al gets a longer in the tooth, I think he’s turning into Ronnie - plastic hair-do, floppy jowels, rosy cheeks, that weird display of lower teeth when he takes a breath between words, the little head shake. I expected him to say “There you go again …” Or is it just me? Hey, here’s a little nugget I picked up from the NY Times Crossword Puzzle. Anagram of **GEORGE BUSH** = **HE BUGS GORE**. ---
**Author:** ![Ivar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@Ivar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ivar)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/11 "2000-10-04T15:00:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Homer \* > \*\*Oh God no! Jesse “The Mind” is exactly what we DON’T need! Talk about a pop-politician. > > –Tim \*\* Being a Minnesotan, i would have to agree. I did vote for him and I think he’s done a fine job here in MN, but for him to be president? That’s asking too much. ---
**Author:** ![Minxsmom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d07c76/32.png) [@Minxsmom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Minxsmom)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/12 "2000-10-04T16:19:09Z")
I like ChrisCTP’s Denis Leary idea. Let’s write him in! Hmmm. Denis Leary as Pres. It would make me look forward to the State of the Union address 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/13 "2000-10-04T17:11:52Z")
What you _really_ need is more than two parties. ---
**Author:** ![Demise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Demise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demise)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/14 "2000-10-04T19:06:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \* > \*\*What you _really_ need is more than two parties. \*\* We DO have more than two parties. The problem is that the two main parties squeeze them out whenever possible. Maybe you should say “What you really need is representation by more than two parties.” ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/15 "2000-10-04T22:04:42Z")
> [@](#): > > Hmmm. Denis Leary as Pres. It would make me look forward to the State of the Union address Look! It’s the Goodyear Tit! > [@](#): > > I did vote for him and I think he’s done a fine job here in MN, but for him to be president? That’s asking too much. Which is why we should elect Vince McMahon as president. Think about it… they’re doing Israeli/Palestinian peace talks at Camp David, and when one of the foreign leaders gets out of line, the President whacks him with a chair… end of conflict. ---
**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/16 "2000-10-04T23:35:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jack Batty \* > \*\*Is it just me, or did Al Gore remind you of Ronald Reagan (in appearence). > As Al gets a longer in the tooth, I think he’s turning into Ronnie - plastic hair-do, floppy jowels, rosy cheeks, that weird display of lower teeth when he takes a breath between words, the little head shake. I expected him to say “There you go again …” > > Or is it just me? > Hey, here’s a little nugget I picked up from the NY Times Crossword Puzzle. Anagram of **GEORGE BUSH** = **HE BUGS GORE**. \*\* **Jack Batty** since you had to ask, here are my debate notes from last night. They wander a little but I’m sure we reached the same conclusion. (You’ll see!) > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zenster \* > \*\*Here are my notes that I took during last night’s debate. For what it’s worth, I think that Gore came out ahead. Bush did a lot better than I expected him too. He has definitely brought up his public speaking a notch or two. > > _Please excuse me if these notes seem to wander, they are loosely assembled from last night’s viewing._ > Did anyone see the Frontline documentary on the careers of Gore and Bush? Both of these weasles have had their skids greased for their entire lives. > > I’m watching the debate right now and it’s really disturbing to watch them dance around their own most vocal positions. For how much Gore has questioned the credentials of Bush, he instead calls his political agenda into question in order to appear to question his skills. > > Bush prinks about the serious issue of Gore’s integrity and any backwash from his involvement in the Clinton administration. Instead he attacks Gore’s intentions to grow the size of government (a serious issue) so that he is calling _something_ into issue. > > Both of them neatly wrapped this up in the issue of tax refunds from the surplus _(totally stupid thing)_. They contrast self-determination (Bush) versus federal oversight (Gore) in the disbursment of what will be a small amount of change to anyone involved. > > Just watched Bush lose his composure about Gore’s ability to produce numbers quickly. Gore has obviously done his homework. > > Women’s Choice: > > Gore hammered Bush completely on this issue. Using Bush’s reference to Scalia and Thomas as touchstones for the issue of choice, he snapped Bush out of a blather of misdirection about a “Culture of Life”. Bush managed to include euthenasia, youth violence and partial birth abortions into his response to the question of the new abortion pill (RU-486). Too bad he completely waffled on the question of whether or not he would use position appointments to alter administration policy on RU-486. > > Understand that however pro-choice to the bone I am. I also agree with the pro-life slogan, “Surely we can do better than abortion.” I believe that RU-486 is another important tool for a woman’s right to self determination. That said, Bush blatantly failed in his attempt to sidestep this important women’s issue. Gore, to his credit, took a very strong stand on this issue in no uncertain terms. > > _(I feel that Bush’s transparent appeal to the “moral majority” is outright insulting in a country that is supposed to have **Freedom of Religion**. I’m all in favor of reducing the abortion rate. I think that better sex education will be a prime mover in doing so. Better distribution (outside of public schools) of contraceptives and and RU-486 will go a long way to reducing the abortion rate. I just feel that a body that is a majority of men should not have the right to politically determine the self control of each woman’s destiny )_ > Bush, “Gore will use his supreme court appointments to subvert the legislature.” This outright slur is evidence of the **extreme** difference of view point held by the two. Bush thinks nothing of overturning of a law that is the will of the people. > Education: > > Again, Bush would not come out and openly support his own stand on school vouchers. As much as I hate the concept of government social programs, education is such a serious concern for this country that we must have nation-wide concensus on the quality (and content) of school curricula. > \*\*AAAAHHHHHHHHH!!! > > I’ve just realized that Gore is the Democratic version of Ronald Reagan.\*\* > If Gore ever uses the term “lockbox” and Bush uses “fuzzy mathematics” they should both be shot. > > Only at the end did either candidate out their big guns about experience and moral qualification. > > Ho Hum. > > \*\* ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2000, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/17 "2000-10-05T00:07:04Z")
> [@](#): > > Denis Leary as Pres. It would make me look forward to the State of the Union address > [@](#): > > Okay, okay, we got the Serbians and the Bosnians, right? The fuckin’ Serbians and the fuckin’ Bosnians. Serbia, Bosnia. Who give a rat’s ass, really now? > > I can’t get a fuckin’ decent cup of coffee and my ass is sitting in the Oval Office, let’s talk about how fucked up that is, okay? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2000, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/18 "2000-10-05T02:39:18Z")
Why not Dennis MILLER for Prez? Or hell, Mike Nelson from MST3K, with Joel as his VP? At this point, I’d vote for Crow and Servo! ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2000, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/19 "2000-10-05T03:22:15Z")
Because Dennis Miller is just plain irritating and unfunny, in addition to not being a politician. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2000, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591/20 "2000-10-05T03:23:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > Or hell, Mike Nelson from MST3K, with Joel as his VP? > > At this point, I’d vote for Crow and Servo! cOuLD tORgO bE SEcreTaRy oF sTAte? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-debators/35591.md?page=2)