# Fucking Dodgers!!! (trite and unimportant) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 31, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688 "2004-07-31T02:15:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/41 "2004-08-05T23:29:59Z")
All you naysayers are absolutely nuts. DePodesta took the Marlins to the cleaners with this one. In return for two expensive players (LoDuca and Encarnacian 7.5 million + for the pair)…both of whom as on the downward skid (LoDuca = 32 years old. Encarnacion = 28 years old) he got a top pitcher in Penny and a top 5 first basemen in Choi (and he’ll be cheap for at least 2 more years. So… Choi: .271/.387/.497 Penny: ERA: 2.97/WHIP: 1.19/OAVG: .241 LoDuca: .307/.360/.468 Mota: ERA: 2.11/1.22/.225 Encarnacion: .237/.292/.414 And the Murphy kid is having a pretty fine year in the minors. If he can get some control issues ironed out the Dodgers could have something there. So LA got younger, cheaper and better by trading a 31 year old reliever (Mota), a not-old player who can’t really hit (lifetime OBP .311)(shades of Tom Goodwin!), and a good hitter who’s a prime candidate for getting old (a catcher at age 32). Boy, I know who I think won this one. Woof. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/42 "2004-08-05T23:30:15Z")
Given that neither of the Johnson trades worked out, I think the Dodgers really screwed themselves here. > [@Kyla](#): > > Dodgers suck! And now they suck more! Ha! You really should wait until you get to first place to say that. If you do get to first place. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Boods](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@Ms\_Boods](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms_Boods)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/43 "2004-08-05T23:47:02Z")
> [@Troy McClure SF](#): > > then shocks you awake with a comment that couldn’t possibly be more bizarre or off-topic in a baseball broadcast… “What the _fuck_ is that man talking about?!” ARGH!!! Don’t say things like this! You make me miss my beloved John Lowenstein! And you lot have Jon Miller! Gah!!! I’m all right. Really. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/44 "2004-08-06T02:44:21Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > You really should wait until you get to first place to say that. If you do get to first place. Like it’s impossible? The Giants have spent a large hunk of the season in first place. They’ve slipped some, but they’re still in the running, especially in a weakass division like the NL West. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/45 "2004-08-06T02:57:03Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > Like it’s impossible? The Giants have spent a large hunk of the season in first place. They’ve slipped some, but they’re still in the running, especially in a weakass division like the NL West. Keep dreaming. They’re 7.5 games back, and would have to pass both San Diego and LA. Stick a fork in them. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/46 "2004-08-06T02:57:09Z")
_The Giants were atop the division every day of last season but only four days this year._ From the Giants MLB site. Last time I checked, 4 days is not “a large hunk of the season.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/47 "2004-08-06T03:53:07Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > Like it’s impossible? The Giants have spent a large hunk of the season in first place. They’ve slipped some, but they’re still in the running, especially in a weakass division like the NL West. Do you have a clue at all? Every single bit of this post is uninformed ignorance. Haj ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/48 "2004-08-06T04:40:44Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > Like it’s impossible? The Giants have spent a large hunk of the season in first place. They’ve slipped some, but they’re still in the running, especially in a weakass division like the NL West. They have a better chance of catching the Cubs, who are getting hot and (perhaps) finally playing like they were supposed to. Good luck catching LA or CHI. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/49 "2004-08-06T12:59:18Z")
Well, almost a week after the trade and the Dodgers are 4-1. Wow, that trade just completely trashed their chemistry. How are they ever going to make the playoffs now. DePodesta should be fired.\* They don’t make :rolleyes: big enough. \*I actually think DePo should be fired by the Dodgers - so that he can replace Stoneman in Anaheim. ---
**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/50 "2004-08-06T16:29:06Z")
> [@Neurotik](#): > > Well, almost a week after the trade and the Dodgers are 4-1. Wow, that trade just completely trashed their chemistry. How are they ever going to make the playoffs now. DePodesta should be fired.\* > > They don’t make :rolleyes: big enough. > \*I actually think DePo should be fired by the Dodgers - so that he can replace Stoneman in Anaheim. Speaking of that… Bigger effect on chemistry - Paul Lo Duca or winning games? I’ll also predict that within the next two weeks the Dodgers swing a trade for a middle of the road (but certainly better than what they have now) catcher that makes it through waivers. This is a team that seems to be making moves for this year and beyond which is nice to see in the era of instant gratification. I look forward to them losing to the Cubs in the playoffs. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/51 "2004-10-01T13:51:07Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > AAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!! > > They just traded Paul Lo Duca, Juan Encarnacion, and Guillermo Mota to the Marlins. > > Dickwads. Just thought it would be fun to resurrect this. The Dodgers are headed to the playoffs. The Marlins, led by Mr. Chemistry, crashed and burned. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/52 "2004-10-01T13:59:46Z")
Which goes to show, even chemistry can’t overcome a .195/.217/.310 line in September. Of course, instead of admitting they don’t know what they’re babbling about and how “chemistry” is just a euphemism for winning and not openly coming to blows in the dugout, the mainstream press is going to treat us to stories about how Beltre replaced LoDuca’s heart and about Finley’s veteran leadership. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/53 "2004-10-01T14:04:41Z")
How about those last three games? It’s like last year’s Dodgers. Amazing starting pitching and no offense. Last night was really crazy. Almost all of the offense came from the catcher’s spot. Go Blue! Haj ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/54 "2004-10-01T14:04:44Z")
One more win. I believe I stated earlier that if the Dodgers made it to the playoffs after that trade I would publicly abase myself for doubting them. We shall see… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/55 "2004-10-01T14:09:52Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > One more win. > > I believe I stated earlier that if the Dodgers made it to the playoffs after that trade I would publicly abase myself for doubting them. We shall see… 😃 Even if they get swept by the Giants, they get a playoff spot if Houston loses at least once. If Penny hadn’t come up lame, we would have had at least three or four more wins at this point and we would have cruised to first place. I think DePodesta pulled off a great trade. Haj ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/56 "2004-10-03T00:05:20Z")
:Ahem: How 'bout those DODGERS!!! Haj ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/57 "2004-10-03T04:33:27Z")
My God, the Giants pulled a choke of absolutely Bostonian proportions. If the Giants miss the playoffs, and with Chokeland having pulled their fifth straight colossal gagfest, the Bay Area will be the choking capital of the baseball world. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/58 "2004-10-03T04:41:12Z")
Go DODGERS!! Woohoo!!! ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/59 "2004-10-03T05:45:54Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > If the Giants miss the playoffs, and with Chokeland having pulled their fifth straight colossal gagfest, the Bay Area will be the choking capital of the baseball world. That’s true. It’s pretty fucking depressing that the Hollywood Dodgers and the Disneyland Angels are _both_ going to the playoffs at the expense of Bay Area teams. (Although, of course, the Giants might still get lucky if they win tomorrow and Houston loses to the Rockies. Then a playoff on Monday) ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688/60 "2004-10-03T05:47:13Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > (Although, of course, the Giants might still get lucky if they win tomorrow and Houston loses to the Rockies. Then a playoff on Monday) You seen the Rockies lately? Talk about just playing out the string. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-dodgers-trite-and-unimportant/257688.md?page=4)