# Fucking God I Hate This Crap, Make It Stop

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-god-i-hate-this-crap-make-it-stop/552094>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 31, 2010, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-god-i-hate-this-crap-make-it-stop/552094 "2010-08-31T03:58:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-god-i-hate-this-crap-make-it-stop/552094/41 "2010-09-04T15:49:20Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> But alas, if I posted that now, I’d look stupid.

Look, what if everyone on _Teh Dope_ had that attitude? We’d have “2,344 views, 2 replies” next to every thread title.

I say go for it. Fine with us if you look stupid.

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-god-i-hate-this-crap-make-it-stop/552094/42 "2010-09-04T16:24:39Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> > [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#):
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> > That’s kinda true. If you are (for example) a Quaker of long standing, you can get out of the draft. You’ll probably be harassed a great deal and then spend your “army time” emptying bed pans in some hospital, but religious pacifists can avoid some types of military service.
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> Actually, everyone is exempt from the draft. Because we don’t have a, you know, draft.
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> And if we did have a draft it would have to be enacted by congress, and the rules by which people were exempt or excluded from the draft would depend on whatever congress legislated, not on what the rules were back in the 70s.

Not quite. The Selective Service System still exists, and young men are still required to register with it.

It is possible to be exempted from military service for religious reasons, but it ain’t easy. You can’t just suddenly decide you’re a Quaker the minute you get your draft notice. You would have to prove membership or longstanding association with some religious body which prohibited all participation in war, and some kind of alternative service is often required. People have tried to get exemptions based solely on their personal philosophies or religious beliefs, with varying results.

Of course, you could always just tell 'em you’re gay. 😃 A guy I knew back in the 60s just swallowed a lot of aspirin and had some friends take him to an emergency room to document his “suicide attempt.” It seems to have worked.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-god-i-hate-this-crap-make-it-stop/552094/43 "2010-09-04T23:34:53Z")

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I seem to recall a very longwinded song that ends with a man being told he isn’t moral enough for the army because he was ticketted for littering.

😛

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**Author:** ![Nicest\_of\_the\_Damned](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nicest\_of\_the\_Damned](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nicest_of_the_Damned)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-god-i-hate-this-crap-make-it-stop/552094/44 "2010-09-04T23:57:16Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> I seem to recall a very longwinded song that ends with a man being told he isn’t moral enough for the army because he was ticketted for littering.
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> 😛

…_And_ creating a nuisance.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2010, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-god-i-hate-this-crap-make-it-stop/552094/45 "2010-09-05T01:12:27Z")

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> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#):
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> > [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> > _Whaaaat?!_ :eek:
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> That’s kinda true. If you are (for example) a Quaker of long standing, you can get out of the draft. You’ll probably be harassed a great deal and then spend your “army time” emptying bed pans in some hospital, but religious pacifists can avoid some types of military service.

There is the conscientious objector out that anyone can try. You don’t need to belong to a pacifist religion, but that would obviously help with your bona fides.

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