# Fucking maskholes and vaxholes **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 14, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339 "2020-07-14T21:26:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/401 "2020-12-04T23:35:13Z")
I told her to do that next time. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/402 "2020-12-05T01:51:25Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > But we still get a good number of people that will, upon being asked to wear a mask, will through a temper tantrum and storm out of the store. Good. They can fuck right off, and never show their asshole faces in public again. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/403 "2020-12-05T01:54:28Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > I’m just astounded at how many people still don’t understand that it’s not about taking your chances with your own health – it’s about having the common decency to _not_ take chances with _other people’s_ health. I’m convinced that they DO understand this. They simply don’t give one tiny shit about other people. They are assholes, who don’t care about others. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/404 "2020-12-05T01:54:37Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Good. They can fuck right off, and never show their asshole faces in public again. It’s funny, I know (assume) they’re trying to make a point, but I’d think with the vast majority of others wearing one, they’d be embarrassed not to wear one. But then there’s people that have no problem walking around a store without a shirt or shoes on. Some people are just shameless. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/405 "2020-12-05T01:55:37Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Some people are just shameless. They’re assholes. They should have “asshole” branded on their foreheads. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/406 "2020-12-05T02:17:19Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > They should have “asshole” branded on their foreheads. Or just a big, brown “A”. You know, like a scarlet “A” – just darker. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/407 "2020-12-05T02:37:33Z")
Or wear a sign saying “I’m stupid,” like Ron White says. “Here’s your sign” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/408 "2020-12-05T02:39:26Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Or wear a sign saying “I’m stupid,” like Ron White says. > > **“Here’s your sign”** - That’s Bill Engvall’s. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/409 "2020-12-05T02:41:44Z")
A C/P from elsewhere (I might’ve put it here first if I’d thought of it): I’ve been thinking about that libertarian acquaintance of mine that I’ve mentioned in other posts. His fear of a shooting civil war was one of several reasons he moved from a generally blue state to a generally red state, but as I mention elsewhere, he also indicated his displeasure with virus related restrictions and bought into the medical industry conspiracy idea. So it seems reasonable to assume that when he moved to his generally right leaning area, that he will drop all cautions and be amongst many many others who do the same. I’m not sure how to feel about this, given his ranting at the mutual friend I mention in my Pit thread. It’s like, I _shouldn’t_ want someone else to get sick, especially with how the virus can be deadly and I believe his wife has lung issues, but at the same time, I’m having a hard time ginning up sympathy or real worry for him because of his conspiracy theories and the way he treated our friend. Further complicating my point of view is that I think I do appreciate his good qualities, and still consider him a fellow community member. I dunno, it just makes me feel morally deficient somehow. Like I’m supposed to be bigger/better than him. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/410 "2020-12-05T02:47:08Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > > [@cochrane](#): > > > > Or wear a sign saying “I’m stupid,” like Ron White says. > > > > **“Here’s your sign”** - > > That’s Bill Engvall’s. Hell, I don’t know why I thought it was Ron White. Anyway, according to the CDC, masks do protect the wearer as well as the public, in a statement from last month. Of course the primary reason for wearing one should be to prevent spreading it to others. > **[Wear Masks To Protect Yourself From The Coronavirus, Not Only Others, CDC...](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/11/11/933903848/wear-masks-to-protect-yourself-from-the-coronavirus-not-only-others-cdc-stresses)** > > The public health agency had previously emphasized that masks protect other people from viruses you might expel. The new advice gives a less altruistic reason to wear face coverings. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/411 "2020-12-05T02:52:05Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Hell, I don’t know why I thought it was Ron White. - > **[Blue Collar Comedy Tour](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Collar_Comedy_Tour)** > > The Blue Collar Comedy Tour was an American comedy troupe, featuring Jeff Foxworthy with three of his comedian friends, Bill Engvall, Ron White, and Larry the Cable Guy, who had replaced fellow comedian Craig Hawksley, who performed in the first 26 shows on the tour. The troupe toured together for six years beginning in January 2000 in Omaha, before finishing in 2006 at the Warner Theatre in Washington D.C. The troupe also created the CMT show Bounty Hunters. > Jeff Foxworthy had already establi... ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/412 "2020-12-05T05:15:48Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Hell, I don’t know why I thought it was Ron White. Ron White was the one who said, “You can’t fix stupid.” You just committed conflation, is all. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/413 "2020-12-05T12:47:34Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > > [@Akaj](#): > > > > A friend of mine caught COVID. She had a bad few days but nothing requiring hospitalization. Someone on Facebook asked her, “Why do you still support mask mandates when your mask didn’t protect you?” > > > > After all these months, people still think masks are about protecting yourself? > > Also, it’s very possible that her mask did protect her to some extent. Since [COVID severity and mortality appears to be linked to viral load](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19057-5), and [mask wearing reduces viral load](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.13.20193508v2), her mask may have helped her get less sick than many other COVID victims. > > Even if your mask can’t totally protect you from infectious droplets etc., if wearing it means you’ll be exposed to fewer infectious droplets etc., that’s keeping you safer than wearing no mask. An even better rejoinder: > It prevented the infection I would have gotten 3 months ago that might have been a lot worse. In fact it probably prevented several infections. If I wasn’t surrounded by people who don’t wear them today and therefore make other people sick, I’d still be fine today. Do your F\*\*\*ing part people. That’s what a civilized society requires: civilized behavior. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/414 "2020-12-05T16:31:25Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Or just a big, brown “A”. You know, like a scarlet “A” – just darker. And, like I said some months ago, if you have the A on your forehead, and after the shit hits the fan – not long now if the current trajectory holds – when you show up in ER and there’s no room at the inn, you’re the one tipped off of the gurney, even if your case is non-CVID related. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/415 "2020-12-05T18:24:32Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > A friend of mine caught COVID. She had a bad few days but nothing requiring hospitalization. Someone on Facebook asked her, “Why do you still support mask mandates when your mask didn’t protect you?” A good response for something like that would be “For the same reason I support helmets and body armor for soldiers even though they don’t provide 100% protection.” ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/416 "2020-12-05T19:40:33Z")
**Sr. Weasel** says he will never take “pro-life” people seriously ever again. I wonder how many relationships this pandemic has damaged. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/417 "2020-12-05T23:47:29Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > > [@Akaj](#): > > > > A friend of mine caught COVID. She had a bad few days but nothing requiring hospitalization. Someone on Facebook asked her, “Why do you still support mask mandates when your mask didn’t protect you?” > > A good response for something like that would be “For the same reason I support helmets and body armor for soldiers even though they don’t provide 100% protection.” That’s really good. Another possible reply: ‘I support everyone using headlights when they drive at night, even though use of headlights doesn’t prevent every accident.’ The “headlights” analogy was expressed quite well somewhere on this site, but I don’t recall where. It’s another example of something we do not only to protect ourselves, but others. And we do it even though we may resent being ‘told by the government’ that we _have_ to do it—because we’re adults, not tantrum-y toddlers. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/418 "2020-12-06T02:07:20Z")
An illustration of the analogy: > ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/419 "2020-12-06T05:27:08Z")
Hey; fuck you, Dr. Steven LaTulippe, you fucking maskhole! How do ya like _them_ apples? > **[Oregon suspends license of doctor who refuses to wear mask](https://apnews.com/article/health-salem-coronavirus-pandemic-oregon-cfc64b5dcb79a983fd96d6fe6ece9b72)** > > SALEM, Ore. (AP) — The Oregon Medical Board has indefinitely suspended the medical license of a doctor who said at a pro-Trump rally that he doesn’t wear a mask at his Dallas, Oregon, clinic and doesn't require his staff to wear face-coverings... ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/420 "2020-12-06T05:49:14Z")
Maybe he forgot which Dallas he works in. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339.md?page=22)