# Fucking maskholes and vaxholes **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 14, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339 "2020-07-14T21:26:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/481 "2021-01-17T15:50:56Z")
I’m thinking that if these MAGAtrash get hassled enough by the store and other customers, they’ll eventually change their attitude toward wearing masks. I don’t think it would take much time. MAGAtrash WON’T change on their own. There needs to be external pressure, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/482 "2021-01-17T16:19:01Z")
I salute your optimism, but they have their own version of reality. Confronting them with _actual reality_ is just as likely to make them feel vindicated that The Mask Is The Virus or The Vaccine Has The Microchip, or whatever bollocks is already filling their heads ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/483 "2021-01-17T19:16:55Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > > [@Bonum\_Legatum](#): > > > > I guess that the stores will have to start being very specific about what constitutes wearing a mask. > > Start? The time for starting was in March 2020. That ship, along with 250K dead people and still counting, sailed 10 months ago. You’re 155,000 off… > [@Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/182): > > 94,961,696 total cases > 2,031,129 dead > 67,778,429 recovered > > In the US: > > 24,306,043 total cases > 405,261 dead > 14,343,644 recovered ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/484 "2021-01-17T20:20:30Z")
I was allowing for the first batch of deaths that preceded the awareness that masks were 100% necessary. So I intended to subtract about 50K from the current headstonecount. The other 100K are just me being behind (!!!) the latest acceleration in the Trumpdemic. Or is that the **saytwo** demic? They both seem to agree the only good American is a defiant, sick, or dead American. The good news is defiance leads to sickness and death. But not enough death soon enough to prevent unacceptable collateral damage among the responsible / sane folks. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/485 "2021-01-17T20:25:36Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > But not enough death soon enough to prevent unacceptable collateral damage among the responsible / sane folks. Among the responsible/sane, and lots of the older folks. Who needs old people, amirite? ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/486 "2021-01-17T20:30:10Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > I’m thinking that if these MAGAtrash get hassled enough by the store and other customers, they’ll eventually change their attitude toward wearing masks. I don’t think it would take much time. > [@Mangetout](#): > > I salute your optimism, but they have their own version of reality. Getting hassled won’t change their attitude. At best, it’ll change their behavior (which might be good enough). ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/487 "2021-01-17T20:39:24Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > > [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > > > I’m thinking that if these MAGAtrash get hassled enough by the store and other customers, they’ll eventually change their attitude toward wearing masks. I don’t think it would take much time. > > > [@Mangetout](#): > > > > I salute your optimism, but they have their own version of reality. > > Getting hassled won’t change their attitude. At best, it’lI change their behavior (which might be good enough). Maybe getting hassled won’t, but I wouldn’t mind seeing a few rounds of “getting ejected from the building,” just to make sure. And it’s not so much minds I want to see changed as _behavior_… ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/488 "2021-01-17T20:51:05Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Maybe getting hassled won’t, but I wouldn’t mind seeing a few rounds of “getting ejected from the building,” just to make sure. Here’s some of that. May contain Brain Worms: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/-tSYivBwJLE/maxresdefault.jpg "Ruin your life in 30 Seconds or LESS") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tSYivBwJLE) And I agree, there should be some swift consequences for maskholes, but the problem I have with all of this is that, in challenging an aggressive idiot, not only is the poor retail employee put at risk of assault, but they also have to put themselves in a situation to be sprayed by spittle from the shouting, screaming maskhole, in the middle of a pandemic. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/489 "2021-01-17T20:59:15Z")
Again, that’s what the cops are for. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/490 "2021-01-17T21:03:02Z")
And again, is that the best use of cops? I mean, actually, I’ll answer that myself: _Maybe._ On reflection, I think I’d rather know that police are turning maskholes away from a busy supermarket than wasting their time trying to stop people going for a walk in the woods, in complete safety. > **[Police to review lockdown fines dished out after women were surrounded for...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/police-women-walk-derbyshire-coronavirus-lockdown-picnic-coffee-b1784816.html)** > > Jessica Allen and Eliza Moore were stopped by officers and told their takeaway coffees counted as an illegal picnic ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/491 "2021-01-17T21:43:09Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > And again, is that the best use of cops? If wearing masks is as important to stopping this pandemic or even saving a few lives as we’ve been told, then yes, it’s an excellent use of cops. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/492 "2021-01-18T02:47:07Z")
Seattle cop, massive maskhole: > **[SPD reaffirms mask guidelines after hospital incident that blew up on Twitter](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/spd-reaffirms-mask-guidelines-after-hospital-incident-that-blew-up-on-twitter/)** > > An incident involving a Seattle Police Department officer who was not wearing a mask has prompted SPD to reaffirm its mask guidelines. On Saturday afternoon, a person who calls herself "casual weekend mom" and identified herself as "an ER Nurse... ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/493 "2021-01-18T03:04:07Z")
They do, sometimes, when they show up. I kinda get a guilty pleasure from watching some videos on > **[r/PublicFreakout](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/)** > > r/PublicFreakout: A subreddit dedicated to people freaking out, melting down, losing their cool, or being weird in public. The latest I giggled at vs cried is: > **[r/PublicFreakout - Saga of the Anti-Masker Leapord-Print Karen - Compilation...](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/kyeurl/saga_of_the_antimasker_leapordprint_karen/)** > > 2,773 votes and 502 comments so far on Reddit (I open via right click as I go down the main group) (not everything posted on the main sub is the Public Freaking Out but if you go back far enough there were tons of the insurrection videos posted, lots of “Karen” and the occasional “Chad/Kevin” videos and some cute videos just to break up the outrage.) ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/494 "2021-01-18T03:12:03Z")
I open via right click _comments_ as I go down the main group. (reading too many places so… it took too long to edit once I went “Duh, what am I opening via right click”.) ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/495 "2021-01-18T04:08:08Z")
Most stores don’t have their employees’ backs. If these people confront them or start any assault, the employee is probably getting fired. I always keep in mind that if I’m seeing this, there must be a hidden accomplice (accessory before the fact?) filming this somewhere. The Ken/Karen/Chad is the bait while the other one films. Who wants to be internet famous for minimum wage? Keep in mind that they probably won’t stop going after you or your employer until they can verify you are fired anyway. I hope to Og I never encounter these A-holes… but if they are coming after me / assaulting me and trying to force a fight … if I’m going to lose my job over this anyway… I’d much rather grab the phone and throw it up on top of the roof of the store or some other nearby building. I’m probably wrong, but I bet the bait actor calms down instantly after the Director says, “Cut!” and the camera stops filming him/her. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/496 "2021-01-18T05:11:26Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > Possibly, but in practice, how would that work? - deploy police to supermarkets in readiness (and people complain about wasted resources) or call on them after an assault has happened (which is what would already happen) For a while we employed security guards. Not that we gave them any more authority to do anything, but theoretically we could have used armed guards. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/497 "2021-01-18T06:10:36Z")
needscoffee, please do not copy and paste newspaper stories in their entirety. That is a copyright violation, clearly beyond the limits of fair use. I have deleted the quote but left the link to the story. Thanks, RickJay Moderator ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/498 "2021-01-18T06:14:31Z")
It was not copied in its entirety, but okay. Not sure why you removed my description of the incident, though. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/499 "2021-01-18T16:34:42Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > Not sure why you removed my description of the incident, though. This software doesn’t do a good job of separating quotes from poster content. A slight indent is not visually significant enough, IMO. I want friggin’ quote boxes! ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/500 "2021-01-18T16:45:50Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > I was half-asleep and pissed off. Still, it was wrong to run out of my apartment without a mask. I live quite remote in a single family home. It’s just my Wife and I. I had an electrician come about a week ago. I was ready for him (took 2 months to get him here). I had a mask laid out, I usually just leave them in my car. But then he called “I’m stuck in your driveway”. So I put on boots and coat and rushed out to see what was up. I forgot my mask. I did go back to get it, and pulled electrician out with my plow truck and winch. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339.md?page=26)