# Fucking maskholes and vaxholes

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 14, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339 "2020-07-14T21:26:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/661 "2021-05-03T23:23:58Z")

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Another angle that occurs to me is how masking affects poker – does the partial concealment make it more difficult to pick up “tells”, or perhaps have a counterintuitive effect of making them easier to spot because masked players assume they don’t need to put as much effort into their poker faces?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/662 "2021-05-05T18:49:36Z")

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Utah school board meeting has to call the police; guess why:

> **[Police respond to mask uproar at Utah school board meeting](https://apnews.com/article/utah-school-boards-coronavirus-pandemic-government-and-politics-health-ddeafc4a442f560531f7bd3ee7b561e1)**
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> SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Pandemonium at a school district board meeting erupted amid news that Utah public schools will require masks through the end of the school year — forcing board members to adjourn and call police, a TV station reported...

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/663 "2021-05-05T19:10:59Z")

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Fully grown adults acting like children. The mind boggles.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/664 "2021-05-05T19:12:53Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Fully grown adults acting like children.

Well, look who they chose as their leader.

> **[Trump's niece condemns him as having the maturity of a 3-year-old in brutal...](https://www.salon.com/2020/07/06/niece-says-trump-remains-much-as-he-was-at-three-years-old-unable-to-regulate-his-emotions_partner/)**
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> Despite efforts by members of the Trump family and their allies to prevent Mary L. Trump’s new tell-all book from being released, it looks like the book will be coming out sooner than previously expected. According to CNN’s Brian Stelter, Simon &...

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/665 "2021-05-07T21:42:19Z")

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I think we may need to broaden the scope of the term _maskhole_:

> **[The Latest: Connecticut data show COVID-19 vaccine effective](https://apnews.com/article/europe-coronavirus-pandemic-coronavirus-vaccine-government-and-politics-business-a6db96afa621f6ffd30b44ca84905d82)**
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> According to data released from the state Department of Public Health, Of the more than 1.4 million Connecticut residents who are now fully vaccinated, 242 later became infected with COVID-19.

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> The owner of a Northern California bar was arrested on suspicion of selling made-to-order fake COVID-19 vaccination cards to several undercover state agents for $20 each in what officials said Friday is the first such foiled operation they are aware of nationwide.
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> The plainclothes agents from California’s Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control were told to write their names and birthdates on Post-it notes. They say bar employees cut the cards, filled out the identifying information and bogus vaccination dates, then laminated the finished product.
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> Vaccination cards are being used in some places as a pass for people to attend large gatherings. The European Union is considering allowing in tourists who can prove they have been vaccinated.
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> Acting on an an anonymous tip from the San Joaquin County Sheriff’s office, four undercover agents went to Old Corner Saloon in the town of Clements several times in April and bought four fake laminated vaccination cards, officials said.
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> They returned to the small-town bar this week and arrested the bar’s owner. Agents say they found another two completed cards and 30 additional blank cards along with a laminator and cutting device.
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> It wasn’t immediately known if the bar owner, Todd Anderson, has an attorney who can speak on his behalf. No one answered the phone at the bar Friday.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/666 "2021-05-08T01:50:06Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> An Iowa man charged with leaving a threatening voicemail telling Gov. Kim Reynolds she should be “hung for treason”

I think he should be hanged for misusing “hung”.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/667 "2021-05-08T01:59:26Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> I think he should be hanged for misusing “hung”.

Please forgive the ‘hung’. It’s a local idiomatic use. I grew up in Iowa and that still comes out of my mouth.

As to rest of his sentiment, I think he should be hanged for it. [not literally of course]

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/668 "2021-05-08T02:53:11Z")

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“Pictures are hung. Men are hanged.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/669 "2021-05-08T03:13:50Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Pictures are hung. Men are hanged

And now we have low-hanging fruit. 😄

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**Author:** ![Mikkel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikkel/32/13151_2.png) [@Mikkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikkel)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/670 "2021-05-08T06:07:47Z")

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Some men are hung.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/671 "2021-05-08T08:04:24Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Utah school board meeting has to call the police;

Bear in mind this is 11 days from the end of term, and the woman who went most bananas has a 4 year old child, for which the rules on mask use are looser for various practical reasons.

As David pakman noted: imagine if people like that focused their energy on actual problems.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/672 "2021-05-09T00:29:30Z")

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Have slime molds ever evolved?

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2021, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/673 "2021-05-09T00:38:53Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Have slime molds ever evolved? -

Of course! One was even elected President in 2016!

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/674 "2021-05-11T16:43:02Z")

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Deluded anti-vaxxer lunatics may now embrace social distancing and masking - because they are worried about getting cooties from people who have been vaccinated.

> **[Anti-Maskers Ready to Start Masking—to Protect Themselves From the Vaccinated](https://www.vice.com/en/article/88nnwg/anti-maskers-ready-to-start-maskingto-protect-themselves-from-the-vaccinated)**
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> An anti-vaccine conspiracy about the vaccinated is leading some anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers to contemplate wearing a mask and social distance.

One notable reported comment in that article:

> Another prominent anti-vaxxer suggested quarantining people who have been vaccinated. “There is something being passed from people who are shot up with this poison to others who have not gotten the shot,” said Larry Palevsky, a[New York pediatrician and anti-vaxxer,](https://www.insider.com/anti-vaccine-doctors-medical-license-free-speech-2019-5)

Pediatrician? How does this guy still have a medical license?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/675 "2021-05-11T16:45:59Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> How does this guy still have a medical license?

You know what they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his medical school class?

Doctor

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/676 "2021-05-11T17:01:28Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> > [@Riemann](#):
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> > How does this guy still have a medical license?
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> You know what they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his medical school class? -
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> Doctor

Specifically, Proctologist.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/677 "2021-05-11T20:40:35Z")

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Rick posted this elsewhere but it belongs in here too:

> [@Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/581):
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> Administrator at a Texas law firm gets fired after he posts threats to shoot store employees who ask him to wear a mask.  
> [https://www.courthousenews.com/law-firm-worker-fired-after-posting-threat-against-face-mask-requirements/](https://www.courthousenews.com/law-firm-worker-fired-after-posting-threat-against-face-mask-requirements/)

Here’s the tweet:  
[![](https://i2.wp.com/www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Bain.png?resize=1024%2C781&ssl=1) ](https://i2.wp.com/www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Bain.png?resize=1024%2C781&ssl=1)

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/678 "2021-05-11T20:57:17Z")

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…and they have more jobs than you do, motherfucker.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/679 "2021-05-11T22:15:29Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Pediatrician? How does this guy still have a medical license?

As stupid as this is, I’m not sure the person who came up with it isn’t secretly brilliant. This type of projection/reversal seems psychologically really attractive to deniers: the “evoluationists” are the ones teaching dogma. The climate change scientists are saying things for political reasons. The anti-racists are the real racists.

But, in this case, the reversal could actually get them to do something they were otherwise completely opposed to doing. While I would, of course, prefer they get vaccinated, I would love if those who weren’t going to think they need to stay away from everyone else.

And if they do dismiss this as stupid, then now both sides are saying stupid things, and maybe someone will be hit by a clue-by-four, and figure out the antimasking stuff was all fake to begin with.

I’m not saying I approve, as I want to get people vaccinated and kept safe. But if this started a joke to see if the anti-mask idiots would fall for it, I would not be too surprised.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/680 "2021-05-11T22:16:12Z")

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I’m sure the store employees would have settled for Bain never shopping at their stores again.

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