# Fucking maskholes and vaxholes

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 14, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339 "2020-07-14T21:26:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1142 "2021-11-12T05:57:14Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Not vaccinated, get tested. Good.

This is the part that annoys me. I’ve been both tested and vaccinated, and I’d take a vaccination every day of my life over any more tests. Sticking a giant swab into the middle of your head is WAY more invasive than that little needle was.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1143 "2021-11-12T06:03:30Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> And now I want to argue over the proper way to pluralize a single letter. Everything I tried seemed wrong.

This is something the pedant in me pays attention to.

Current practice seems to be to just add an s to uppercase letters, as long as it won’t be mixed up with an actual word or otherwise confusing. So Ks is fine.

For lowercase letters or places where it is confusing, an apostrophe can be used, e.g. A’s, q’s, t’s.

There’s also the trend of italicizing the letter (or word when referring to the actual written word) and then adding an unitalicized s, e.g. _K_s, _A_s, _q_s. I don’t use that for single letters, but I will for words, like “How many _but_s are in that paragraph?” (I may also use ‘How many "but"s are in that paragraph?’)

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1144 "2021-11-12T06:09:44Z")

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Well now I feel like I have to say “Arrglebargl!” Must keep up appearances, you know.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1145 "2021-11-12T06:14:09Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> This is something the pedant in me pays attention to.

[![](https://jackiebarrie.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/apostrophe.jpg) ](https://jackiebarrie.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/apostrophe.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1146 "2021-11-12T06:24:34Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> > [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> > Is “Fuck-knuckles” usually hyphenated? Huh. The more you know!
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> If you don’t hyphenate it, we’ll just descend into arguments over how many Ks it should have.

Clearly, that would be FucKKKnuckles.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1147 "2021-11-12T06:35:36Z")

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I’m so glad someone else went there. I actually did type three K’s entirely by accident, and then edited it because it seemed too obvious…😃

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1148 "2021-11-12T06:37:52Z")

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Maybe we should just start advocating for Zz as plurals, and "'s"z as possessivz.

And now you all hate me.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1149 "2021-11-12T06:42:41Z")

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The rule I’ve sometimes seen that I prefer (since this is a thread about Fucking maskholes, doncha know?) is that plurals should be written with an apostrophe when it’s clearer that way, in particular when the thing being pluralized isn’t a word. That would means numbers (like, in the 1960’s) or single letter (a’s and b’s) or perhaps non-word clusters of letters (Now I know my abc’s), and such-like. This rule makes perfectly good sense to me.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1150 "2021-11-12T19:45:47Z")

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I am more likely to include the single letter in quotes - dotting the "t"s and crossing the "i"s.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1151 "2021-11-13T00:27:00Z")

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Many people at work have apparently responded to the “get vaccinated or get tested” announcement by refusing to wear any kind of face covering at all. I actually asked my manager this morning if the corporate face covering policy was still in place; he said it was, and then added that he hasn’t seen any studies showing that it does any good. 🙄

On the plus side, an employee was injured today badly enough that they needed medical attention, and someone actually called an ambulance instead of just stuffing the victim into the car of a designated “first responder” (defined here as an employee who took a first aid course).

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**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1152 "2021-11-13T04:41:39Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> plurals should be written with an apostrophe when it’s clearer that way, in particular when the thing being pluralized isn’t a word. That would means numbers (like, in the 1960’s)

I hate to burst your bubble, but there’s no apostrophe when abbreviating a decade that way. It’s _1960s_. You would, however, replace the first two digits with an apostrophe if you were to leave them off: _the '60s_.

Sorry if this continues a hijack. I thought it worth mentioning.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1153 "2021-11-13T05:00:07Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> That particular day in mug shots makes me sad for humanity.
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> ETA: The question is, who _isn’t_ on meth?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/FOsI2Y5K5IU/maxresdefault.jpg "What are you people, on dope?!?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOsI2Y5K5IU)

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1155 "2021-11-14T06:02:16Z")

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> [@PennTeller](#):
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> > [@WolfpackJeep](#):
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> > Many people at work have apparently responded to the “get vaccinated or get tested” announcement by refusing to wear any kind of face covering at all. &nbsp;
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> Well, yes, that’s the appropriate response. I wouldn’t, either. &nbsp;

They should all be fired on the spot. That’s the appropriate response.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1156 "2021-11-14T06:08:30Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> They should all be fired on the spot. That’s the appropriate response.-

Agreed. I wear a mask to protect my boss, who’s in his 70’s and fully vaxxed, as am I (and getting up there in years, too). And one of my daughters is very high risk. No one should have to go to work and be exposed to doofuses who can’t be arsed to follow simple safety precautions. I’ve already lost one person I know to covid. That’s too much.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1158 "2021-11-14T06:32:26Z")

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Fiddle with us, will you? This will go well.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1159 "2021-11-14T06:57:11Z")

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Pssstt buddy. The title of the thread is not an invitation for fucking mask holes to join.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1160 "2021-11-14T07:02:33Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Pssstt buddy. The title of the thread is not an invitation for fucking mask holes to join.

Fine, let them join. This is the BBQ Pit! Here, we can have some fun kicking their virtual on-line asses around. At least they can’t infect us over the Internet!

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1161 "2021-11-14T07:10:56Z")

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Just a troll, not worth your energy.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1162 "2021-11-14T07:17:56Z")

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Really? needscoffee mentions that she lost somebody to COVID, and your response is sarcastic violins?

I mean, we already knew that maskholes are generally indifferent to other people’s risk and suffering, but they don’t usually proclaim it quite so blatantly.

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1163 "2021-11-14T08:14:14Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> Eugene and Roseburg are different communities in different counties.

Very, very different.

> [@enipla](#):
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> I bet they represent themselves in court. Ha. hahaahhahahah.

Maybe, but I was wondering if it might be a moneymaking ploy for a “defense fund.”

> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> An assault charge can be valid if the store owner had a reasonable fear that they would suffer violence. No actual contact needs to be made.

Not in Oregon. Like has happened in common parlance, assault means injuring someone in the Oregon criminal assault statutes. Threatening someone is menacing, offensive noninjurious contact is harassment.

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