# Fucking maskholes and vaxholes **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 14, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339 "2020-07-14T21:26:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 59
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1164 "2021-11-14T10:36:56Z")
Agreed! This is where the employees know they have the upper hand though… Many of the ones refusing to mask or get vaccinated have very specialized jobs; replacing them wouldn’t be quick or easy. And even though our parent company has loads of employees, our location is very small, so no department really has the ability to lose more than one or two employees without the others suffering from the excessive workload. > [@needscoffee](#): > > Agreed. I wear a mask to protect my boss, who’s in his 70’s and fully vaxxed, as am I (and getting up there in years, too). And one of my daughters is very high risk. I live with my elderly, fully vaxxed (and soon to be boostered) Mom, and I occasionally need to help out my elderly neighbors, one of whom is in poor health (both fully vaxxed though). I still wear a mask – especially when I venture into the maskhole-filled production area. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1165 "2021-11-14T12:14:18Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Really? needscoffee mentions that she lost somebody to COVID, and your response is sarcastic violins? > > I mean, we already knew that maskholes are generally indifferent to other people’s risk and suffering, but they don’t usually proclaim it quite so blatantly. Don’t worry, I flagged his ass. Trolling is still against the rules in the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1166 "2021-11-14T14:56:10Z")
> [@PennTeller](#): > > 🎻 🎻 🎻 \< Spits in your Beggar Hat \> ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1167 "2021-11-14T15:04:51Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I mean, we already knew that maskholes are generally indifferent to other people’s risk and suffering, but they don’t usually proclaim it quite so blatantly. Actually, they frequently do. They’re proud of their sociopathy. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1168 "2021-11-14T17:18:44Z")
The usual maskholes at work… > **[Angry, violent, toxic: How extremists are drowning out local California...](https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article255292696.html)** > > They have swarmed board meetings spewing conspiracy theories and violent rhetoric. Why extremism experts are worried. > [@](#): > > For much of the past two years, vocal extremists have swarmed their board meetings spewing a toxic mix of conspiracy theories and violent rhetoric under the pretext of a rebellion against Gov. Gavin Newsom’s pandemic edicts — rules that officials in Shasta County were mostly ignoring anyway — and a variety of other complaints. > [@](#): > > From Modesto to Placerville, Sacramento to Oroville to Redding, the dangerous, conspiracy theory-driven spirit behind the deadly Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol riots has spread across California as far-right extremists and anti-government activists mobilize to disrupt the work of local elected officials. > [@](#): > > Central to many of these efforts: Christian church leaders, including many who have boasted about defying public health orders and [made a show of doling out exemptions](https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article253485334.html) for people who won’t take the vaccine. In some cases, churches have spearheaded [conferences](https://www.covidcon21.com/)riddled with prominent conspiratorial figures. Some say they are organizing to “take back” the power. and what quite concerns me: > [@](#): > > Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino, said the conspiratorial, inexperienced and anti-democracy activists might end up filling the void after worn-out or terrified public officials step away. Levin said that is a threat to democracy and creates a real threat of violence. “They merely have to target traditionally sleepy local governance events,” Levin said. “And that is a problem. Someone is going to get seriously injured or worse.” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1169 "2021-11-14T17:58:19Z")
In BC, a group of maskhole anti Vaxxers disrupted a rememberance day function, because they are assholes, and figure that disrespecting veterans is a great idea. ---
**Author:** ![FluffyBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@FluffyBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FluffyBob)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1170 "2021-11-14T18:04:35Z")
Yeah that was something. I know their are sociopaths and idiots but the stupidity and sociopathy of this incident stands out. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1172 "2021-11-14T18:15:50Z")
Take your sock account and fuck right off. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1173 "2021-11-14T18:17:41Z")
> [@PennTeller](#): > > We’ve always wanted a society where the employees had the upper hand over the employers Have we? Have you? > [@PennTeller](#): > > now that we do you’re complaining about it? The complaint is that the employees are refusing the most basic of public safety measures. If they “had the upper hand” and used that to decide that they no longer needed to use PPE when working with dangerous materials, or that the needed to properly secure their work area, would you continue to think that this is such a great win? ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1175 "2021-11-14T19:45:52Z")
> [@PennTeller](#): > > Alex, what is a non sequitur? And blocked. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1176 "2021-11-14T21:05:16Z")
They will be punted as a sock account shortly anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1177 "2021-11-14T21:09:04Z")
I hope the Mods do it with golf shoes… ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1179 "2021-11-14T21:50:33Z")
You write what you do and That’s the height of narcissism? “Funny, I thought Penn Jillette was Taller…” ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1180 "2021-11-14T22:52:48Z")
> [@PennTeller](#): > > We’ve always wanted a society where the employees had the upper hand over the employers No, “we” (meaning we responsible liberals who defend employee rights) have always wanted a society where employees were protected from abuse and exploitation by employers. (And, ideally, one in which employees benefit more from employers’ profits.) But requiring employees to comply with sensible public-health measures against an ongoing deadly pandemic is in no way exploiting or abusing them. To conflate deluded conspiracy theorists selfishly demanding exemptions from common-sense anti-COVID protocols with conscientious workers standing up for reasonable employee rights is both stupid and despicable. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1181 "2021-11-14T22:53:44Z")
I don’t think it’s been mentioned yet, but Paul Kendall, a maskhole who called a gay lawmaker a cocksucker, has died from covid. Not gonna miss him. > **[Anti-mask GOP activist called gay lawmaker a “c\*\*ksucker” at public meeting...](https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/10/anti-mask-gop-activist-called-gay-lawmaker-cksucker-public-meeting-dying-covid/)** > > Paul Kendall was treated as a "thought leader" among anti-maskers who cheered as he called a gay politician a "c\*\*ksucker." Now he's "a victim of the global elite... ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1182 "2021-11-14T23:45:06Z")
> [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > . . . a maskhole who called a gay lawmaker a cocksucker . . . He said that, and you mention it, like there’s something wrong with that. In these modern and inclusive times, why is there anything wrong with that? It shouldn’t be seen as the insult that it’s obviously intended to be. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1183 "2021-11-14T23:49:51Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > This is where the employees know they have the upper hand though… Many of the ones refusing to mask or get vaccinated have very specialized jobs; replacing them wouldn’t be quick or easy. Here’s a thought: If responsible and sensible employees, who get vaccinated and wear masks, are in the majority (as they seem to be), why shouldn’t _they_ be the ones to take the upper hand. They should be the ones threatening to quit and find other, better jobs at responsible workplaces where mask and vax mandates are the rule. And if they are those employees with skills, and other employers are begging for qualified and willing employees, then those employees should have an easy enough time finding and getting those jobs. Let society segregate itself into a total _apartheid_ of mask-and-vaxxers vs. maskholes-and-vaxholes. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1184 "2021-11-14T23:58:59Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > > [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > > > . . . a maskhole who called a gay lawmaker a cocksucker . . . > > He said that, and you mention it, like there’s something wrong with that. In these modern and inclusive times, why is there anything wrong with that? It shouldn’t be seen as the insult that it’s obviously intended to be. Well, dude intended it to be an insult, and it was taken as one by the gay community. At least, that’s my reading of the LGBTQ Nation cite offered above. If you want to reclaim the term or something, hey, I can get on board with that. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1186 "2021-11-15T00:56:16Z")
> [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > If you want to reclaim the term or something, hey, I can get on board with that. Yup. Until then, though, a bigot using a widely recognized slur against a member of the community that the slur traditionally denigrated should be assumed to be intending insult. And said bigot doesn’t get a pass on his bigoted offensive behavior just because the literal meaning of the term he was using as a slur is now considered a more socially acceptable phenomenon than it used to be. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1187 "2021-11-15T01:02:12Z")
> [@PennTeller](#): > > Objection: Assumes facts not in evidence There’s plenty of evidence that mask and vaccination requirements are part of sensible public-health measures that greatly reduce the dangers of COVID-19. Just because many deluded maskholes embrace a bunch of irrational conspiracy theories for the ego boost of feeling smarter than the “experts” doesn’t mean that mainstream science and policy recommendations are wrong. It just means that there are a lot of deluded idiots who prefer easy ways of feeling smart (i.e., making up bullshit) to hard ones (i.e., knowing enough about complex scientific phenomena and techniques for modeling them to understand something about why scientists and policymakers are saying what they’re saying about them). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339.md?page=58) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339.md?page=60)