# Fucking maskholes and vaxholes

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 14, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339 "2020-07-14T21:26:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1215 "2021-11-15T04:23:33Z")

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God you guys are easy.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1216 "2021-11-15T04:26:56Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> God you guys are easy. -

Nah, just confirming that it’s a troll/sock/trock. Done with it now.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1217 "2021-11-15T05:07:53Z")

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I just got back from TusCon 48, my first Con in two years. [In order to attend](https://tusconscificon.com/covid-19-protocols-for-tuscon-48/) anyone over 12 had to show at Registration either proof of vaccination or a negative test result within 72 hours. Period.

Furthermore, while in any of the public spaces of the hotel, you had to be masked except when actively eating or drinking. Period.

> If you cannot wear a mask for physical, psychological, or ideological reasons, please do not attend the convention; we will be happy to roll your membership over to 2022. We know this may be unpleasant news for some of you, but this is a public health issue, and is not subject to debate.

Furthermore, there was no exception for children. Period.

> If your child is unable to wear a face mask for any reason, we ask that you do not bring them to the convention. This is especially true of infants and toddlers. We apologize for the inconvenience, but this is for their health and well-being as well as that of the other attendees.

At reg there was a stand-up sign:  
_FAQs about COVID policies_  
_1. Yes, we’re serious_  
_2. Yes, we can_

Saturday afternoon I asked at Reg if there’d been any pushback about the policies and the person there said there had been none, figuring anyone who objected had self-selected out.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1218 "2021-11-15T05:17:14Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Saturday afternoon I asked at Reg if there’d been any pushback about the policies and the person there said there had been none, figuring anyone who objected had self-selected out.

I had a similarly positive experience with a recent local entertainment event, where the organizers decided we were going to require all participants and attendees to remain masked (except performers on stage) and show proof of vax upon entering.

I was prepared for at least some occasional pushback or hostility but we got zilch. In fact, I think we got a larger audience through standing up for the principle of protecting our audience and performers.

People are so tired of dealing with selfish and thoughtless maskholes all the time that it can be a real relief just to get into a space where everybody is demonstrably willing to take a few simple precautions to decrease risks for everybody, instead of just spitefully and childishly obsessing over the minor inconvenience to themselves.

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1219 "2021-11-15T06:10:18Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> At reg there was a stand-up sign:  
> _FAQs about COVID policies_  
> _1. Yes, we’re serious_  
> _2. Yes, we can_

Love it!

The dispensary closest to my home doesn’t care about masking. The next closest one is very strict about masking and has an armed security guard and lots of signage saying “No mask, no service”. I choose to spend my money where I feel safe, so of course I drive farther to buy my weed. I’ll tell them about those signs next time I’m there.

I once witnessed a fellow customer inside the store remove his mask (no entry without a mask) and start ranting about being a PTSD military veteran and discrimination and something else. The customer beside the Maskhole told him to put his mask back on because Maskhole was triggering _his_ PTSD. Maskhole shoved the other guy just as the armed guard came running in and grabbed the Maskhole.

I don’t know what happened to Maskhole after he was dragged out, but all of the budista’s seemed upset and apologetic. They also gave everyone a pre-rolled joint and begged us to come back again.

As I was leaving, I saw the Maskhole sitting in the back seat of a cop car so hopefully he got charged with assault for shoving the other guy, but who knows?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1220 "2021-11-15T11:00:31Z")

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I way overslept my nap (2pm-10pm, I would think so) and, being up overnight, decided to write out what the Trump years… especially COVID… was like via an Old Testament-style pastiche. Yes, weed was involved, why do you ask?

(For those of you not used to Twitter, the link takes you to a 27 (or so) “tweet thread” which is read by clicking on the bottom tweet. The link is to the first tweet, they are all numbered, and the last tweet is a near carbon copy of the first tweet. You’ll see.)

Hope y’all enjoy!

> <https://twitter.com/JohnT15/status/1460188431645040640?s=20>

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1223 "2021-11-15T12:08:53Z")

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The rest of us are tired of PennTelller Bullshit (by which I do not refer to the show).

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1224 "2021-11-15T12:10:57Z")

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Me, I’m just surprised they let the kids use their phones on the bus. Middle school sure is different from when Sophia was that age.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1225 "2021-11-15T14:13:24Z")

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> [@PennTeller](#):
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> > [@Kimstu](#):
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> > But it is guaranteed, statistically speaking, to **significantly** reduce
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> That word doesn’t mean what you seem to think it means

[Um…](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes/915339/1209)

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1226 "2021-11-15T15:26:04Z")

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Too bad. You don’t deserve the protections offered by polite society.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1227 "2021-11-15T15:36:15Z")

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He thinks (p = 0.007) means hiring 7 hookers to pee on you.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1228 "2021-11-15T16:21:50Z")

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Trump math. 😃

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1229 "2021-11-15T16:32:48Z")

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> [@PennTeller](#):
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> That word doesn’t mean what you seem to think it means

Yes, it does. In fact, I’m using “significantly” correctly in both of its primary meanings here: in its more general sense of “noticeably” or “importantly”, and in the technical sense of “statistically significant”.

You don’t have any arguments and you don’t have any evidence for your deluded-dumbfuck position that facemask wearing is useless as protection against COVID. All you’ve got is a vague awareness of technical concepts like “statistical significance” that makes you feel smart when you incorrectly imagine that the people you’re “arguing” with don’t know them.

That’s why you’re resorting to the usual deluded-dumbfuck tactics of responding to cogent arguments with quasi-cryptic one-liners that don’t actually rebut the arguments. You’re trying to give the misleading impression that you’ve got some astute refutation lurking somewhere in the implications of your words that your interlocutor isn’t aware of. But you’ve got nothing.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1230 "2021-11-15T17:48:11Z")

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[Moderating]  
The Pit is, in general, the forum for shitty behavior, but mocking someone because someone they knew died is too shitty even for this forum.

Don’t do this again. This is a formal warning.  
[/Moderating]

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1231 "2021-11-15T17:49:36Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> You’re trying to give the misleading impression that you’ve got some astute refutation lurking somewhere in the implications of your words that your interlocutor isn’t aware of.

Nicely crafted sentence. However I will translate for him, since he likely is confused:

“You’re a fuckwit who posts bullshit, and we can all see that it’s bullshit.”

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1232 "2021-11-15T17:54:02Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Too bad. You don’t deserve the protections offered by polite society.

[Moderating]  
“Too bad you got vaccinated” is pretty close to saying, “To bad you won’t get Covid.” Wishing harm or illness on other posters is against board rules. Please avoid this in the future.

No warning issued.  
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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1233 "2021-11-15T18:06:13Z")

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> [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> I don’t know what happened to Maskhole after he was dragged out, but all of the budista’s seemed upset and apologetic. They also gave everyone a pre-rolled joint and begged us to come back again.

This is beautiful.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1234 "2021-11-15T19:02:13Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > [@Kimstu](#):
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> > You’re trying to give the misleading impression that you’ve got some astute refutation lurking somewhere in the implications of your words that your interlocutor isn’t aware of.
> 
> Nicely crafted sentence. However I will translate for him, since he likely is confused:
> 
> “You’re a fuckwit who posts bullshit, and we can all see that it’s bullshit.”

Addendum: (…even though you’re clearly hoping that we won’t.)

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1235 "2021-11-15T19:47:01Z")

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What really bugs me about maskholiness isn’t that it proves that they have no regard for the health and safety of others, it’s that WEARING A MASK ISN’T THAT FUCKING HARD! I have two children with asthma, and they somehow manage to wear masks through 10-hour workdays; you can wear one for half-an-hour shopping at Menards. You expend more energy bitching and complaining and throwing a tantrum over wearing a mask than you would by actually wearing a fucking mask. You know why COVID wasn’t as big of a problem in Japan as it was in the US? Because they already have a culture where if you are feeling a bit sick, you wear a mask if you have to go out in public. They still know that the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the one.

It’s not that hard. Wear a mask.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1236 "2021-11-15T22:59:47Z")

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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> … They still know that the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the one.

Clearly not a philosophy of interest to right-wingers, who prefer to embrace “_ **the needs of ME ME ME outweigh the needs of everyone else** _!!11!!!”

A courtesy ME-status is temporarily afforded, at times, to others who give evidence of being of the same tribe; thus your average right-winger will weep tears of sympathy/outrage at any insult to Donald Trump or Tucker Carlson or teenagers who murder protesters (so long as the protesters are on the left, of course).

But when push comes to shove, ME-status reverts to the actual holder.

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