# Fucking maskholes and vaxholes **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 14, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339 "2020-07-14T21:26:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 62
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1237 "2021-11-15T23:40:53Z")
Our local middle school held a clinic for kids this past weekend, and one of my co-workers took her first-grader there. As she drove in, there were some people on the corner directing traffic, so she rolled down the window. A lady leaned toward her, tried to hand her a pamphlet, and said, “Before you go in, here is some information you should consider.” Yup. The antivaxxers were trying to sabotage the clinic. Someone called the police and trespassed them off school grounds, but they hung out on the public sidewalk continuing the shenanigans. Eventually a couple of district employees went and stood by them and yelled at everyone to ignore them and head into the clinic. Death cult. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1238 "2021-11-16T01:02:59Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Death cult. Literally. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1239 "2021-11-16T01:40:06Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > . . . decided to write out what the Trump years… especially COVID… was like via an Old Testament-style pastiche. Suitable music for this: [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Q2bL4DGq7Ds/hqdefault.jpg "GORDON LIGHTFOOT ~ The Pride Of Man ~") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2bL4DGq7Ds) ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1240 "2021-11-16T13:27:37Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Eventually a couple of district employees went and stood by them and yelled at everyone to ignore them and head into the clinic. Good for them. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1241 "2021-11-16T15:01:55Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Someone called the police and trespassed them off school grounds, but they hung out on the public sidewalk continuing the shenanigans. Thankfully where I live, they are bringing in a law to prevent these stupid assholes from blocking or interfering with anyone. They’ve already been banned from protesting at any health care facility. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1242 "2021-11-16T18:43:46Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Clearly not a philosophy of interest to right-wingers, who prefer to embrace “ _ **the needs of ME ME ME outweigh the needs of everyone else** _ !!11!!!” I’ve said it before but an over-simplified, idealized way of looking at most things political is; Republican/conservative = me Democrat/liberal = we I just saw a video (60 Minutes?) of some conservative talking head defending conservativism as, and I paraphrase, “We just want to keep things the way they are”. As a former Republican raised in white, Christian, middle class America, even I can see that that is the problem. Great for the “haves/me”, not so much for the “have nots/we”. The maskholes are perfect examples. But even he said that things have gone too far regarding basic civility when it comes to disagreeing. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1243 "2021-11-16T20:06:02Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I take it you haven’t seen how many laughing votes that reports about COVID deaths get on Facebook? Or how many of the comments start with the laughing emoji or LOL? Are people actually still using Facebook? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1244 "2021-11-16T22:50:34Z")
This might be a good time to mention that I was watching an old movie on TV this morning, a movie that was set in an airport in 1963 - back when air travel was glamorous and America was great and Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton and all the diamonds and furs didn’t look out of place in the incredibly dingy 1960’s airport……because it was an _airport_. An international airport. And every passenger that approached the ticket counter had to show…….wait for it…….their _vaccination card_. And no one complained about their freedoms or whined about the Constitution, they just showed their vaccination cards without making any fuss. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1245 "2021-11-16T23:45:27Z")
Richard Burton, being British, had obviously bewitched Liz with his socialist, freedom-hating, National Health Services card. And for the other people, well, Richard was a very attractive man ( Look who he dated!) and bewitched them as well. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1246 "2021-11-17T00:29:57Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > Are people actually still using Facebook? Apparently, yes. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1247 "2021-11-17T00:40:50Z")
I would estimate around 80% of my friends actively use it, so, yes. There’s certainly no lack of activity when I log in. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1248 "2021-11-17T01:17:31Z")
Most of my mom’s side of the family does; this is how we find out about deaths and marriages on that side. Dad’s side of the family tends to cross-post all over the place. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1249 "2021-11-17T01:17:54Z")
Yeah, that question struck me as odd. I’m admittedly only marginally functional on social media (if the SDMB doesn’t count) and have no clue about any hot new trend in the technology zeitgeist. But that still seemed like a rather sudden transition from the conventional wisdom of “everybody’s getting all their information from Facebook and Twitter and it’s destroying our society’s connection to reality and critical thinking ability” to a new conventional wisdom of “Facebook? Pffft, nobody uses that anymore”. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1250 "2021-11-17T01:18:07Z")
> [@MikeF](#): > > I’ve said it before but an over-simplified, idealized way of looking at most things political is; > > Republican/conservative = me > Democrat/liberal = we Yeah, that’s tough to argue with. > > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > This might be a good time to mention that I was watching an old movie on TV this morning, a movie that was set in an airport in 1963 - back when air travel was glamorous and America was great and Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton and all the diamonds and furs didn’t look out of place in the incredibly dingy 1960’s airport……because it was an _airport_. An international airport. > > And every passenger that approached the ticket counter had to show…….wait for it…….their _vaccination card_. > > And no one complained about their freedoms or whined about the Constitution, they just showed their vaccination cards without making any fuss. I know I hit this note often, but: back in 1963 there wasn’t an entire industry devoted to flattering a large fraction of the population and telling them they are Special and they Shouldn’t Have to Do What Stupid Government Tells Them and they are Patriotic and Noble when they Resist. I mean, there would have been a few right-wingers with radio shows at the time, but there was no “bubble”—no 24/7 environment in which the flattery and fear-mongering could work on people without any contradictory (and inconvenient) facts ever intervening. That makes a huge difference in the ways in which people define themselves, and in what they perceive as acceptable–or even admirable–behavior. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1251 "2021-11-17T01:20:59Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Yeah, that question struck me as odd. I’m admittedly only marginally functional on social media (if the SDMB doesn’t count) and have no clue about any hot new trend in the technology zeitgeist. There was a tiny bit of the tongue in a tiny bit of the cheek there. I’m just trying to get on the bleeding edge. 😆 😆 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1252 "2021-11-17T01:25:34Z")
Oh, okay! Like I said, this is a subject on which I’m very whooshable. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1253 "2021-11-17T01:33:42Z")
No problem. I don’t use or know much about social media either. I _do_ believe Facebook is at the beginning of a shark-jump but it’s very early. ---
**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1254 "2021-11-17T02:07:24Z")
[presses “like” button] ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1255 "2021-11-17T03:01:43Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > Are people actually still using Facebook? “Nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded.” –Yogi Berra ---
**Author:** ![omenran](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omenran/32/3318_2.png) [@omenran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omenran)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1256 "2021-11-17T07:28:37Z")
I don’t use social media stuff, so im not the best to comment on this, but I think a growing amount of people have realized how toxic and damaging Facebook and Twitter and Instagram are and are cutting back or leaving those places. I don’t think it’ll ever be a significant amount since I see it more from liberals and older people and not anything I’m aware of similarly happening in conservative circles or those under 30 or so. And I fell more young people are using Instagram, Snapchat and TikTok. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339.md?page=61) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339.md?page=63)