# Fucking maskholes and vaxholes **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 14, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339 "2020-07-14T21:26:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 63
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1257 "2021-11-17T08:08:05Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > > [@BigT](#): > > > > I take it you haven’t seen how many laughing votes that reports about COVID deaths get on Facebook? Or how many of the comments start with the laughing emoji or LOL? > > Are people actually still using Facebook? While youngsters are more likely to avoid it or only have an infrequently used profile for family, Millennials and older still tend to use it, though they vary in how active they are. I don’t use it a whole lot. I don’t just randomly post things and I don’t take pics. I do go there to catch up on the lives of the people I know who use it, or just check in on people I used to know in high school. I use its messenger for some people I know in real life, because it’s more reliable for me than texting. And it was a great comfort to me just before and after Mom’s death, because that’s how people could talk to me. While I’m there, I also respond to falsehoods and nonsense to try and stop them from spreading. And occasionally I get so frustrated I make a post about how it angers me seeing people laughing at people dying. There still doesn’t seem to be any other social media that connects you to the real world the way Facebook does, with its real name policy. And, yes, people spreading falsehoods is part of that. It’s also how you can comment on some sites like FiveThirtyEight. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1258 "2021-11-17T19:21:05Z")
My college students see Facebook as an old people’s platform. I think they use it, but sparingly. Instagram, Tik-Tok, and the like are much more popular with this demographic, or at least the ones I’m in contact with. Anecdotally at least! ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1259 "2021-11-17T21:39:49Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I mean, there would have been a few right-wingers with radio shows at the time, but there was no “bubble”—no 24/7 environment in which the flattery and fear-mongering could work on people without any contradictory (and inconvenient) facts ever intervening. Not that I completely agree, but the RW folk would say that the liberals were controlling the media then and you were only seeing what they wanted you to see. And it is true that for the most part all the networks and newspapers were reporting the same stuff. I am on the side of “they were mostly just reporting facts with little to no spin”, but even the decision of which facts to report on involves decisions and hence probably some bias. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1260 "2021-11-17T22:04:19Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > the decision of which facts to report on involves decisions and hence probably some bias. More likely to be true (at that time) about which stories were covered, and less likely to be true about what was said about any given story. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1261 "2021-11-17T22:28:12Z")
Wow, a bunch of posts from a trock just got cornfielded. What a shock! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1262 "2021-11-18T00:06:30Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > > [@Folacin](#): > > > > the decision of which facts to report on involves decisions and hence probably some bias. > > More likely to be true (at that time) about which stories were covered, and less likely to be true about what was said about any given story. I agree with both points. As for the media being ‘controlled by liberals’ in the pre-Internet age: seriously? Broadcast media were controlled by large corporations, then as now—though that tendency was ameliorated to a degree, in some locations, by the fact that newspapers were still (in some cases) locally owned and operated. Of course that’s all over, now. But the decision-makers for what went on the nightly news on the three networks were highly unlikely to be liberals–or if the actual anchors had liberal tendencies, they knew that whatever they said had to pass muster with their big-corporation bosses. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1263 "2021-11-18T12:20:19Z")
I’m probably looking through the rosy glasses of nostalgia, but there were liberal Republicans back in the day, and, although paternalistic, it seems like corporations were more likely to act like their employees were more then replaceable cogs. Plus, we hadn’t sorted ourselves so efficiently into camps - no one espousing fringe ideas was going to get far in either the corporate or political worlds (especially on the left but also the right (think of the general disdain for the Birch Society, and Barry Goldwater (who would hardly qualify as a Republican today) was considered a dangerous reactionary)). ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1264 "2021-11-18T12:25:47Z")
Barry Goldwater won his 64 nomination because of his opposition to the Civil Rights Act. He would fit in with the current crop just fine. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1265 "2021-11-18T13:09:51Z")
That, and the catchy, “AuH20” chant. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1266 "2021-11-18T13:23:13Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > He would fit in with the current crop just fine. Uh, yeah. Wiki’s bio: > A member of the [NAACP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAACP) and active supporter of desegregation in Phoenix,[[3]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater#cite_note-Menand-3)[[4]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater#cite_note-4) Goldwater voted in favor of the [Civil Rights Act of 1957](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1957) and the [24th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution), but reluctantly opposed the [Civil Rights Act of 1964](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964), despite believing in racial equality he felt one of its provisions to be unconstitutional and a potential overreach of the federal government—a decision that considerably anguished him.[[3]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater#cite_note-Menand-3) > Goldwater’s views on social and cultural issues grew increasingly libertarian as he neared the end of his career. After leaving the Senate, Goldwater’s views on social issues cemented as libertarian. He criticized the “moneymaking ventures by fellows like [Pat Robertson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Robertson) and others [in the Republican Party] who are trying to … make a religious organization out of it.” He supported [homosexuals serving openly in the military](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_orientation_and_gender_identity_in_military_service),[[9]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater#cite_note-9)[[10]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater#cite_note-10) environmental protection, [abortion rights](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States),[[11]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater#cite_note-11)[[12]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater#cite_note-12) and the legalization of [medicinal marijuana](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_cannabis_in_the_United_States).[[13]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater#cite_note-13) Obviously a MAGAt before his time. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1267 "2021-11-18T14:17:13Z")
Obviously. Wiki is a great site for finding out when things happen and what song was popular on this date, but for more interpretative questions, it’s not all that great. You know who would provide context? Stanford’s MLK Research and Education Institute: > [@](#): > > King said of Goldwater’s voting record, “While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulates a philosophy which gives aid and comfort to the racists” (King, 16 July 1964). King feared that Goldwater’s position that “civil rights must be left, by and large to the states” meant “leaving it to the Wallaces and the Barnetts” (King, “The Republican Presidential Nomination”). Electing Goldwater, King said, would plunge the country into a “dark night of social disruption” (King, 21 September 1964). > > In the month before the election, King’s [**Southern Christian Leadership Conference**](https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/encyclopedia/southern-christian-leadership-conference-sclc) launched a nationwide “get out the vote” drive. Although King called the campaign “bipartisan,” he wrote: “The principles of states’ rights advocated by Mr. Goldwater diminish us and would deny to Negro and white alike, many of the privileges and opportunities of living in American society” (King, 9 October 1964). When Johnson defeated Goldwater, King declared, “The American people made a choice … to build a great society, rather than to wallow in the past” (King, “A Choice and a Promise”). [https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/encyclopedia/goldwater-barry-m](https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/encyclopedia/goldwater-barry-m) At _best_ he would be a Romney Republican. More context to the quote above: > [@](#): > > “ **The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism…** On the urgent issue of civil rights, Senator Goldwater represents a philosophy that is morally indefensible and socially suicidal. **While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulates a philosophy which gives aid and comfort to the racist.** His candidacy and philosophy would **serve as an umbrella under which extremists of all stripes would stand.** In the light of these facts and because of my love for America, I have no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that does not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy.” > **[This MLK Quote Sums Up The Rise Of White Supremacy Post-Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/this-mlk-quote-sums-up-the-rise-of-white-supremacy-post-trump_n_5875426de4b099cdb1000431)** > > King's words are eerily prophetic. (_Emphasis_ in original) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2021, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1268 "2021-11-19T03:07:20Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > That, and the catchy, “AuH20” chant. Slightly less catchy than _In your guts, you know he’s nuts,_ though. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1269 "2021-11-20T01:15:54Z")
Just found out that an employee who is leaving because she doesn’t wish to get tested or vaccinated doesn’t have another job lined up. As far as I know, she’s the only source of income in her family. Also, her supervisor lets her wear loungewear to work. 🤨 I could put up with a lot if my supervisor let me show up in my work-from-home outfits. It’s not like they’re asking much, either. I don’t get this. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1270 "2021-11-20T01:16:29Z")
It’s infinitely ineffable. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1271 "2021-11-20T04:44:22Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > Just found out that an employee who is leaving because she doesn’t wish to get tested or vaccinated doesn’t have another job lined up. Are situations like these eligible for unemployment benefits? Probably varies by state. When I told my employees they had to be vaccinated or they were out of a job, they caved. I would have fought UC, but would I have had a case in PA?? ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1272 "2021-11-20T11:25:45Z")
That’s a good question! For North Carolina, I honestly don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1273 "2021-11-20T15:58:15Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > It’s infinitely ineffable. Really? Because F her is all I can think. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1274 "2021-11-20T18:04:23Z")
Oh yeah. Fuck her. I just meant there’s no way of understanding the inexplicable. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1275 "2021-11-20T22:47:18Z")
> [@Bill\_Door](#): > > Really? Because F her is all I can think. I SWYDT. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1276 "2021-11-28T16:32:58Z")
Thinking about posting this somewhere in the **GR** , but nah, this shithead’s pissing me off again - this’ll go here just fine… Er, well, actually it’s the a-hole father speaking on behalf of the a-hole son, but potatos, puh-tah-tahs… > **[Novak Djokovic Unlikely To Play Australian Open Under Current Conditions,...](https://www.ubitennis.net/2021/11/novak-djokovic-unlikely-to-play-australian-open-under-current-conditions-says-father/)** > > Srdjan Djokovic made the revelation during a TV show which was broadcasted in Serbia on Sunday morning. > [@](#): > > Srdjan Djokovic says his son has a right to keep his vaccination status out of the public eye despite him being asked multiple times if he has been vaccinated against COVID-19. Recently Tennis Australia confirmed that the Melbourne Major will only be open to players who have been fully vaccinated against the virus in line with a government health mandate which has been implemented in the region. > [@](#): > > When asked directly about Djokovic’s participation in the Australian Open, Srdjan cast doubt on the chances due to what he labelled as ‘blackmail’ by officials. 😱ooooo blackmail oooooo 😱 I was just starting to get over Novak’s social media stupidity tweeting nightclub hijinks during the initial covid outbreak two Aprils ago, and now more self-centred, childish, irresponsible shit. Yup. Sit out the Aussies, Novak. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339.md?page=62) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339.md?page=64)