# Fucking maskholes and vaxholes **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 14, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339 "2020-07-14T21:26:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 65
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1297 "2021-12-12T00:37:36Z")
_If only_ KI’s toxicity was limted to just some bball bubble, though, I certainly wouldn’t have posted the story in this forum. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1298 "2021-12-12T00:43:22Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Tony Farmer Isn’t he the Pumaman of MST3K fame? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1299 "2021-12-12T05:16:08Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Point guard - - that’s like, what, a shortstop in baseball? With the PG being the main driver of the offence, I’d compare it more closely to a quarterback. (if we’re really givng any shiznitz about this). I could really dorky about this and proclaim that a shotstop would be closer to a “third man” in cricket, but given I’m next to clueless about the game it would behoove someone “of the Commonwealth” to kick my ass with a fine tuning on said defintion, given this being a thread about maskholes, of course. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > GO SPORTS! Yeah, sing it! [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yJIiSm6sgrE/hqdefault.jpg "Xavier Renegade Angel: Sports") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJIiSm6sgrE) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1300 "2021-12-12T18:08:45Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > _f only_ KI’s toxicity was limted to just some bball bubble, though, I certainly wouldn’t have posted the story in this forum. Every time I see a news story about him, I’m hoping he’s not getting paid for sitting on the bench. I know he’s getting fined, but I’m not sure about the rest of his compensation. I’ll take it further. I think they should just cut him. It’s not like he’s helping the team. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1301 "2021-12-14T14:32:12Z")
(quoting a newspaper article) > [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Srdjan Djokovic says his son has a right to keep his vaccination status out of the public eye > [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > When asked directly about Djokovic’s participation in the Australian Open, Srdjan cast doubt on the chances due to what he labelled as ‘blackmail’ by officials. Just a reminder that he _does_ in fact have the right to keep his vaccination status out of the public eye. What he doesn’t have is the right to play in international opens without agreeing to their terms. That’s not “blackmail”; that’s the _Open’s_ right to decide under what conditions players are allowed to participate. I mean, if they can give a tennis player shit just for not wanting to do pointless press conferences, they can certainly give one shit for being a potential legitimate health risk to everyone involved in the tournament including the other players. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1302 "2021-12-14T16:19:08Z")
Do tennis players at the Open have the _right_ to randomly punch other players, officials and even spectators in the face with no warning? No? Even if they sincerely believe that it’s fine to cause injury to others? Like really sincerely? No? ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1303 "2021-12-14T17:30:26Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > _If only_ KI’s toxicity was limted to just some bball bubble, though, I certainly wouldn’t have posted the story in this forum. If their toxic advice only hurt their fans it would be an improvement. Tucker Carlson’s medical advice is responsible for the deaths of more Nazis than anyone since Eisenhower, so he does have that going for him, Unfortunately there’s collateral harm to other individuals, so it isn’t an unalloyed blessing. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1304 "2021-12-14T19:18:47Z")
> [@Bill\_Door](#): > > Tucker Carlson’s medical advice is responsible for the deaths of more Nazis than anyone since Eisenhower, _snerk!_😄 ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1305 "2021-12-14T21:10:22Z")
Indeed. I’m stealing that, too. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1306 "2021-12-29T21:21:34Z")
Maskhole? Vaxhole? You decide! > **[Connecticut man charged with faking COVID to avoid court](https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-connecticut-hartford-49a16d1fdfe1ac12ca96000a2e25d915)** > > HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) — A Connecticut man has been charged with faking a positive COVID-19 test in order to avoid a court date. The 31-year-old Hartford man was arrested Tuesday on charges of forgery and fabricating physical evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1307 "2022-01-06T17:21:24Z")
So my wife’s niece and her 4-year-old daughter now have Covid, thanks to the girl’s pre-school teacher who came to school sick on Monday unmasked and hugged all the kids. The niece is quite obese and, while vaxxed, is probably at high risk of serious complications. The daughter is obviously un-vaxxed and as of last night was running a fever of 102. It’s a maskhole state, so I doubt there will be any repercussions for the teacher, but in a sane world she’d be fired and barred from ever teaching again. I’d sue the shit out of the school, too. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1308 "2022-01-06T18:10:08Z")
A friend of mine posted a clip from commentary in “The Law Magazine and Review” of 1872 (London) he came across while doing research on something unrelated. It’s a major pain to link to it so I’ll just type it in: > [@](#): > > Our law states distinctly that all children are to be vaccinated. It punishes parents who neglect their duty in this respect; and yet we have an Anti-Vaccination League, which does its utmost not merely to rescind the law, but to get it violated. The weak-headed people who belong to it seem to have made converts among the Peculiar People. An inquest has lately been held at Plumstead, on a child named Cecilia Hurry, aged seven years. The parents of the deceased belong to this sect, the father being one of the elders. One of their articles of belief is that medical assistance in time of sickness is unnecessary. The deceased was attacked with small-pox; the elders laid hands on it, prayed over it, and anointed it with oil in the name of the Lord, according to scriptural teaching; but they never thought of sending for a doctor. The child, who had not been vaccinated, died in eleven days. The result of the inquest was that the father was committed for trial at the next sitting of the Central Criminal Court. The decision, we think, was a very proper one, and were the law to be put into force in all such cases of parental neglect, whether fatal or otherwise, we might do something to get rid of this pest. We have no objection to the fullest religious toleration, and even equality. Shakers and Contortionists have as much right to the protection of the law as Archdeacon Denison or Mr. Spurgeon. but when people kill their children by neglecting to have them vaccinated, or from any other scruple, religious or not, they ought to be brought within the power of the law. (TIL that “[Peculiar People](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peculiar_People)” refers to both a Wesleyan sect and, sometimes, the Quakers. I’m not sure who the “Contortionists” are in this context unless they’re related to the Shakers.) I followed that rabbit hole for a while and found lots of old (19th century) antivax publications spouting the same ridiculous rhetoric we still see today (the Anti-Vaccination League was, I believe, founded in 1854). One of them claimed that smallpox “could be controlled without vaccination” on the same page as citing the statistic that smallpox had a 90% infant mortality rate. Stupidity + paranoia = death cult. Fortunately vaccination eventually won the day and smallpox is no longer massacring our children. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1309 "2022-01-06T19:27:35Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Kyrie Irving might not be well known here in these boards, but to miillions of Americans - many of them gullible ignoramuses - he’s a celebrity, whose social media comments, sadly, can carry a _strong_ influence. He’s obviously not helping the casue with his anti-vax position, and too many idiot fans out there obviously can be swayed by this. Kyrie Irving, first and foremost desperately wants and needs attention. If trolling accomplishes that, swell. From ESPN: “This is not even a conspiracy theory,” Irving (said in a podcast) “The Earth is flat. The Earth is flat. … It’s right in front of our faces. I’m telling you, it’s right in front of our faces. They lie to us.” "He later reiterated those beliefs to ESPN’s Arash Markazi and commented that it was “hilarious” to him that his comments became a “social phenomenon.” I highly doubt he has much against Covid-19 vaccination, other than that complying with league rules would make him one of the common herd of players, and mean that far fewer people would be talking about him. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1310 "2022-01-06T19:48:05Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > “This is not even a conspiracy theory,” Irving (said in a podcast) “The Earth is flat. The Earth is flat. … It’s right in front of our faces. I’m telling you, it’s right in front of our faces. They lie to us. Later he claimed he was just trolling about this, and then apologized, which I (at least hope) is a complete repudiation. Or he could just be talking out his ass. Still pissed the Nets caved and brought him back into the squad. I wonder if teammates were cool about this. Sure, there’s the argument that they’re young, strong and healthy and would likely recover quickly from an infection, especially with the Omicron variant being less toxic than the Delta, but nah, this just further confirms what a selfish headcase he is. He can only play on the road, and I hope NYC doesn’t lift its vaccine mandate simply to illuminate Irving’s silly douchery of not being able to pay in his hometown. (Well, ok - I _do_ hope NYC obviously lifts that mandate when the time is right, but this just rankles me with Irving. Conversely - Australia _better_ stand up to keeping out Novak Djokovic, whose lawyers are _still_ trying to get him into the Aussie Open.) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1311 "2022-01-07T19:15:33Z")
A large group of Canadian anti-maskers decided to take a vacation together to Mexico. During the flight, they refused to wear masks, stood on the seats, and vaped. The airline has announced that they will not fly them home, and two other airlines have said they won’t take them, either. > **[Obnoxious Canadian Influencers Left Stranded in Mexico After In-Flight Chaos](https://www.thedailybeast.com/canadian-influencers-left-stranded-in-mexico-by-several-airlines-after-in-flight-partying)** > > Three airlines have refused to board the passengers; some of them have also tested positive for COVID-19. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1312 "2022-01-07T19:16:30Z")
Ron DeSantis let a million covid tests expire, even as he claimed that anybody who wanted a test could get one, and people lined up for hours to get tested. > **[Ron DeSantis: I Let a Million Unused COVID Tests Expire in State Stockpile](https://www.thedailybeast.com/ron-desantis-admits-to-letting-a-million-unused-covid-19-tests-expire-in-state-stockpile)** > > The admission came amid widespread shortages, and on the same day the Florida governor announced he would be sending a million tests out to Florida senior citizens. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1313 "2022-01-07T20:11:23Z")
Toss-up for which thread this could have gone in. Nothing like saying that quiet part out loud… > **[Utah tech entrepreneur and GOP fundraiser calls COVID-19 vaccines an...](https://www.deseret.com/utah/2022/1/4/22867216/tech-entrepreneur-dave-bateman-claims-covid-19-vacccines-plot-by-jews-to-exterminate-people-entrata)** > > Dave Bateman resigns from Entrata board in wake of antisemitic email. > [@](#): > > “I believe the Jews are behind this. For 300 years the Jews have been trying to infiltrate the Catholic Church and place a Jew covertly at the top. It happened in 2013 with Pope Francis,” he writes, offering zero evidence. “I believe the pandemic and systematic extermination of billions of people will lead to an effort to consolidate all the countries in the world under a single flag with totalitarian rule. I know, it sounds bonkers. No one is reporting on it, but the Hasidic Jews in the US instituted a law for their people that they are not to be vaccinated for any reason.” Well, then. > [@](#): > > “I pray that I’m wrong on this.” Oh pish - try this at a Ted talk. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1314 "2022-01-07T20:52:55Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > “I believe the Jews are behind this. For 300 years the Jews have been trying to infiltrate the Catholic Church and place a Jew covertly at the top. It happened in 2013 with Pope Francis," Ah, the Jewish Pope. Of course. Masterstroke. Bravo, Jews - bravo. Every once in awhile I see somebody make the claim that antisemitism in the US is largely a relic of the past, confined to a smallish number of ignorant backwoods yahoos and/or Muslim radicals. Sometimes it almost sorta seems like that (Republican evangelicals - “we LOVE Israel”), but then something like this always crawls out. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1315 "2022-01-07T22:10:26Z")
There’s even more crazy once you get past the lede: > [@](#): > > In his email, Bateman also cites further misinformation about COVID-19 including that PCR diagnostic tests are carcinogenic and urges recipients to not get vaccinated. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1316 "2022-01-07T22:12:32Z")
The nice thing about never stopping wearing a mask is that I don’t have any social anxiety over wearing a mask. When I think of all the self inflicted emotional pain suffered by people over this decision, that makes me realize that the Internet has perfected sado-masochism: We can both punish ourselves and enjoy the pain. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339.md?page=64) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339.md?page=66)