# Fucking maskholes and vaxholes **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 14, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339 "2020-07-14T21:26:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 66
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1317 "2022-01-07T22:18:42Z")
> **[QAnon Star Who Said Only ‘Idiots’ Get Vax Dies of COVID](https://ca.movies.yahoo.com/qanon-star-said-only-idiots-194553934.html)** > > Cirsten Weldon told her fans not to get vaccinated and wanted Dr. Anthony Fauci executed. She just died of COVID. > [@](#): > > Weldon focused on attacking vaccines and other efforts to fight COVID-19, saying in one video that Dr. Anthony Fauci “needs to be hung from a rope.” She claimed the vaccine killed people, and even recorded herself yelling at people standing in line to receive vaccines. ooooo a qanon _STAR!_ It is said that one shouldn’t speak ill of the recently passed; that, in such moments, one should show compassion, regardless of how the deceased may have been perceived. I’ll have to dispense with that nicety here, and hope that Cirsten (sic) will end up awash in a cocoon of fire ants in hell. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1318 "2022-01-07T22:30:58Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > “I pray that I’m wrong on this.” Who said prayers are never answered? ---
**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1319 "2022-01-07T22:43:30Z")
I actually encountered my first “I have a medical exemption” person today. In a liquor store. She came in and was promptly given a mask by a cashier and tried out the line, but the cashier said, “I don’t care, either wear it or leave.” She put it on and scuttled off to grab her vodka. I commiserated with the cashier. I suspect I haven’t seen this before because I really don’t go out much anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1320 "2022-01-07T22:48:31Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > Republican evangelicals - “we LOVE Israel” It’s a weird, fucked-up love at that. They think support for Israel will lead to Armageddon and that Jews at that point will need to convert to Christianity or suffer eternal damnation. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1321 "2022-01-07T22:50:26Z")
> [@Paintcharge](#): > > I actually encountered my first “I have a medical exemption” person today. I’ve seen a few staff at various places with an “I am exempt from wearing a mask” badge. I have not pushed any of them for further details or evidence, as they’ve all been polite and professional and haven’t, you know, coughed on me or anything. And I remain masked. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1322 "2022-01-07T23:14:08Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > “I am exempt from wearing a mask” I wonder if the employer could get away with a “I have forced an exemption from the most basic of human decency” badge. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1323 "2022-01-07T23:14:13Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I’ve seen a few staff at various places with an “I am exempt from wearing a mask” badge. I have not pushed any of them for further details or evidence, as they’ve all been polite and professional and haven’t, you know, coughed on me or anything. And I remain masked. FYI, those badges don’t mean jack shit legally-They can be bought on Etsy for under five bucks. Lying to customers is neither polite nor is it professional. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1324 "2022-01-07T23:22:24Z")
I think I’ve seen about four of them total in London, and only on individuals in places where the rest of the staff have been masked, so it’s not the employers that were driving it. I don’t know what if any evidence the staff members in question had to provide to their employers to justify their exemption. And I wasn’t suggesting they had any legal status; they were clearly worn for explanatory purposes. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1325 "2022-01-07T23:31:21Z")
Is exempting yourself with an etsy-bought badge sort of like crowning yourself king with one of those burger king crowns? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1326 "2022-01-07T23:38:36Z")
You do not get the security which is guaranteed with corporate branding, so completely different. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1327 "2022-01-07T23:39:13Z")
The _fact_ remains-Neither badge nor card (legit or otherwise) stops a person from contracting and/or spreading this horrible disease. If people wearing those badges are _that_ rare, what you should do is frequent establishments that do not employ people that wear those badges. **People that are exempt from the vaccine and/or wearing masks should NOT be exempt from their personal responsibility for the safety of others.** ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1328 "2022-01-07T23:49:46Z")
Yeah, if someone has a genuine medical reason for being unable to wear a mask, the only reasonable accommodations in my view would be to have them work from home, or in a solitary position away from customers and coworkers. In no way is it reasonable to exempt them from wearing ask in a customer facing job. I would avoid that establishment in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1329 "2022-01-08T01:03:49Z")
They may have an acute case of “Idontwanna”. Usually seen in 2-3 year olds, but many adults are getting it lately. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1330 "2022-01-09T10:56:59Z")
On Friday, corporate sent out an email reiterating their mask policy; in particular, that only unvaccinated people are required to wear masks, and that these masks – to be worn over the mouth and nose – should be of a thick enough material to block light. Exemptions are made for those see-through masks designed to help lip readers. (Vaccination status is tracked through an online portal, where employees can upload a scan of their vaccination card.) This announcement caused literal screaming to erupt throughout the facility, with one guy particularly upset that his “clever” way of bypassing the existing rule for our location (“it only says you have to wear a face covering, it doesn’t say how you have to wear it!”) would be overridden by corporate, meaning that his current method of wearing his company-issued face shield upside down on his head like a crown is no longer acceptable. This guy then tried to pick a fight with his supervisor, who is also anti-mask. The last I heard, he’s threatening to bring in supplies to build walls around his workstation so he can work unmasked. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1331 "2022-01-09T11:05:22Z")
Because that would be less onerous than just wearing the ddamned mask, right? ---
**Author:** ![Mikkel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikkel/32/13151_2.png) [@Mikkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikkel)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1332 "2022-01-09T11:31:51Z")
Or even just get the vax. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1333 "2022-01-09T12:24:52Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > The last I heard, he’s threatening to bring in supplies to build walls around his workstation so he can work unmasked. > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Because that would be less onerous than just wearing the ddamned mask, right? To be fair, I suspect most people who work in cubicles or, Og forbid, open offices, would love an excuse to build our own walls at work. ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1334 "2022-01-09T12:37:09Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Are situations like these eligible for unemployment benefits? Probably varies by state. When I told my employees they had to be vaccinated or they were out of a job, they caved. I would have fought UC, but would I have had a case in PA?? Some GOP-led states - Iowa for sure - have actually passed laws specifically providing unemployment benefits for those who are fired because they refuse to comply with their employers’ vaccination requirements. Iowa’s fine, upstanding, level-headed Republicans used a special session intended only for redistricting to slip that through. They also included a provision saying those claiming religious or medical exemptions don’t need any evidence - employers must take them at their word. “Oh, my religion doesn’t allow me to take the COVID vaccine” is adequate “proof” for an exemption. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1335 "2022-01-09T14:27:13Z")
Republicans: Biden has failed in his promise to rein in this pandemic! Also Republicans: We will do everything we can, special sessions, lawsuits all the way to the Supreme Court, lie about effectiveness of the vaccine, everything and anything in order to prolong this pandemic! ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1336 "2022-01-09T15:28:13Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > The last I heard, he’s threatening to bring in supplies to build walls around his workstation so he can work unmasked. That’ll last until he gets the pricing on Plexiglass – $140 for a 4x8x1/8 sheet at Home Depot. Then there’s the cutting, chamfering, and hardware bits for installation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339.md?page=65) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339.md?page=67)