# Fucking Morons in General Questions
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-in-general-questions/55018
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [February 18, 2001, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-in-general-questions/55018 "2001-02-18T22:18:54Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author:  [@Yue\_Han](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yue_Han)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2001, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-in-general-questions/55018/1 "2001-02-18T22:18:54Z")
**cooldude** has established himself as a complete shithead here:
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=59999](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=59999)
It starts with a nice normal question about Lucid Dreaming. Like many topics, this could go in several forums, depending on phrasing. For instance, it could have gone to IMHO or MPSIMS as “Tell me about your lucid dreaming experiences.”
But it wasn’t. It was in GQ, which means the correct response is _factual, objective_ information. I think just about everybody understands the forums concept well enough to see that that’s what GQ is for.
Some of the responses verged into personal stories, as opposed to information, so **manhattan** said:
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> Once again, we don’t need a thread full of every story by anyone who as ever done this. As in the prior threads on this subject, I’ll ask that you limit your posts to factual information about the practice – studies of it, etc.
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> Thanks.
To which dipshit of the day **cooldude** responded:
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> So, the moderator NAZI is stepping in again trying to tell us, the posters what to do AGAIN. I’m sorry, but WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG with relating personal experiences. How many of us are experts on lucid dreams? Few or none. How many of us have experienced it? Many.
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> If you want factual information in the form of studies, search the web and send us a link. Write to Cecil himself. Personally, I think personal experiences about lucid dreams are far more factual to me than reading some dissertation, and much easier on the eyes and brain.
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> Manhattan, I may not have a full understanding of the pressures of being a moderator, but this is not encouraging to the free exchanging of knowledge. This is a topic of intertest to me, and I personally defy the moderator and command all of you write about your experiences. Anything else I have to say about Manhattan would be more appropriate in the pit.
This is pathetic and stupid bullshit. If you are not an expert on lucid dreaming, if you ahve only personal experiences to post on lucid dreaming, _then don’t fucking post in a GQ thread about lucid dreaming._
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> Personally, I think personal experiences about lucid dreams are far more factual to me than reading some dissertation, and much easier on the eyes and brain.
You apparently don’t understand what the word factual means. A personal experience is not a fact about lucid dreaming. The fact that **Perderabo** likes to dream that he can fly like Superman is not a fact about lucid dreaming; it is a personal fact about **Perderabo** that doesn’t tell anyone anything about lucid dreaming in general.
If you think people should discuss their personal lucid dreaming experiences, then you are free to forcibly yank your head out of your ass and go start a MPSIMS or IMHO thread about it.
Not only did you get pissed off about a perfectly normal moderating action, you were a complete ass about it. Here’s an easy method to use: **Unless someone invaded Poland, believes in the master race, and set up death camps, don’t call them a Nazi.**
Thank you for your time.
–John
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### Author:  [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2001, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-in-general-questions/55018/2 "2001-02-18T22:32:05Z")
**Yue Han** , I agree with you. Absolutely. There was no need to have an anti-Mod tirade in this case.
But … why didn’t **Manhattan** simply move the thread to IMHO or MPSIMS?
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### Author:  [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2001, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-in-general-questions/55018/3 "2001-02-18T23:07:15Z")
Because obviously, he wanted to leave the option open to let some _real_ experts chime in. This is a very diverse community of people, often highly skilled. It’s not unthinkable that a dream expert is among us as well.
Good one, Yue Han.
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### Author:  [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2001, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-in-general-questions/55018/4 "2001-02-18T23:10:01Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Ice Wolf \*
> \*\ ***Yue Han** , I agree with you. Absolutely. There was no need to have an anti-Mod tirade in this case.
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> But … why didn’t **Manhattan** simply move the thread to IMHO or MPSIMS? \*\*
Because the OP was trying to get facts about lucid dreaming. Because others hijacked it with their personal experiences shouldn’t redound to the detriment of the OPer (or others who want to learn facts about lucid dreaming).
**Manhattan** did precisely the right thing here. A GQ post was drifting in the direction of MPSIMS, and he tried to pull it back. He tried politely and in a non-accusatory way, and got called a Nazi for his pains. The fucker who said it should be banned. 'Specially **cooldude** - he’s been around long enough to know not to be a jerk.
Sua
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### Author:  [@aenea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aenea)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2001, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-in-general-questions/55018/5 "2001-02-19T01:17:05Z")
You do not post often enough for my taste.
Your voice should be heard a little more often…
😉
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### Author:  [@PosterChild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PosterChild)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2001, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-in-general-questions/55018/6 "2001-02-19T05:00:04Z")
Hmmmm?
:rolleyes:
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### Author:  [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2001, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-in-general-questions/55018/7 "2001-02-19T08:33:11Z")
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> Unless someone invaded Poland, believes in the master race, and set up death camps, don’t call them a Nazi.
You know, this is such a brilliant piece of advice, I think I’m gonna print out a trillion copies and post them on every surface in sight.
Personally, I found this part to be most entertaining…
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> Manhattan, I may not have a full understanding of the pressures of being a moderator, but this is not encouraging to the free exchanging of knowledge.
Apparently, **cooldude** would rather have no rules or control over what happens here. He’d rather have EVERY forum an MPSIMS/IMHO amalgamation.
To **cooldude** I say… get out of here and find a fucking newsgroup, jackass!
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### Author:  [@Danielinthewolvesden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danielinthewolvesden)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2001, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-in-general-questions/55018/8 "2001-02-19T10:02:00Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Yue Han \*
> Here’s an easy method to use: **Unless someone invaded Poland, believes in the master race, and set up death camps, don’t call them a Nazi.**
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Small nitpick- there were many other nations that had Nazi parties- and several othere which had a Nazi government. There are still “nazis” to this day.
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### Author:  [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)
#### Post date: [February 19, 2001, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-in-general-questions/55018/9 "2001-02-19T16:36:50Z")
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> _Originally posted by Danielinthewolvesden_
> **Small nitpick- there were many other nations that had Nazi parties- and several othere which had a Nazi government. There are still “nazis” to this day.**
That’s not accurate. Other nations had totalitarian right-wing or fascist parties, Germany had a specific one called Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or Nazi for short. Today there are neo-nazis, it’s different. I couldn’t agree more with the OPer and the abuse of that word.
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### Author:  [@Road\_Rash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Road_Rash)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2001, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-in-general-questions/55018/10 "2001-02-20T00:23:52Z")
I finally get to see the thread about me and it is already being hijacked for National Socialism.
Manhattan, I apologize.
Sure there should be guidelines to general questions. If a thread strays, move it. I have never objected to this. But in recent months there has been several questions, ones I thought legitimate, that got closed. There have been threads that were closed because they were not technically written in the form of a question. Threads that got closed for what I felt were minor infractions. The moderator who is the most zealous about closing threads seems to be Manhattan, often with smart-ass, I am smarter than you type, responses. I often interpret behavior like that as being arrogant.
I too have been arrogent, and I responded in a dumb-ass way. From now on if I have a disagreement with Manhattan, I will e-mail him and try to be nice so he might give me a response.
I still think they need to lighten up on GQ. Message boards are supposed to be fun and informative.
AND QUIT HIJACKING THIS THREAD!!!
Cooldude with a cooler head.
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### Author:  [@jb\_farley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jb_farley)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2001, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-in-general-questions/55018/11 "2001-02-20T02:32:16Z")
**cooldude** , I apologize to you and the rest for the harsh words. and **chronos** and **manhattan** , sorry for the curses and the clutter.
**Yue Han** , I don’t think I’ve spoken directly to you before, which is a real shame. Nice jobbyjob.
jb
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### Author:  [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2001, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-in-general-questions/55018/12 "2001-02-20T02:35:09Z")
Brava, **cooldude**
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### Author:  [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2001, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-in-general-questions/55018/13 "2001-02-20T03:33:33Z")
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> But in recent months there has been several questions, ones I thought legitimate, that got closed.
Apparently, Manhattan disagreed with you on “legitimacy”. But please, provide us with some links and explain how they were legitimate “General Questions” and why they should not have been closed.
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> There have been threads that were closed because they were not technically written in the form of a question.
General **Questions**. 'Nuff said.
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> Threads that got closed for what I felt were minor infractions.
Then you bring it up in the Pit, not GQ. Sheesh!
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> Message boards are supposed to be fun and informative.
Fun: IMHO or MPSIMS (and, to a point, the Pit).
Informative: GQ, GD, and the Comments forums.
Seems pretty clear-cut to me.
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### Author:  [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2001, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-in-general-questions/55018/14 "2001-02-20T04:54:24Z")
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> \*Originally posted by cooldude \*
> \*\* If a thread strays, move it. \*\*
If it helps, some purely logistical stuff kicks in on the moving vs. locking thing. Neither are hard, but moving a thread has complications…
See, the boards tend to boom during “prime times”. The servers are straining and since some of us are at work then, sneaking in over breaks and lunchhours, we aren’t in much better shape. _Locking_ a thread off just takes a few quick steps and it doesn’t slow the board down appreciably.
_Moving_ a thread sucks server resources and the process does make the board run slower. Plus, it takes more steps for the mod:
1. ideally, emailing the OP to advise of the move.
2. emailing the mods in the forum that’s the threads new home.
3. posting an advisory in the “moved to…” thread in the forum.
**GQ** is bursting at the seams; during peak times the front page can completely turn over in a few hours. Not trying to heap coals on your head, **cooldude** ; class act, there. Just trying to make things a bit more… _understandable_.
Veb