# Fucking Morons Still Trashing Buzz **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 22, 2015, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868 "2015-07-22T11:26:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/61 "2015-07-26T07:49:48Z")
I recall from reading somewhere, maybe Gene Kranz’s autobiography, that among the NASA staffers there were “Snoopy” awards. I think there was a certificate and sometimes a pewter or silver pin involved. The thing about CTers… it’s their religion; it’s based on faith. So it’s a waste of your time and breath reasoning with them. I got stuck once in a waiting room with a guy spouting off, at LENGTH, about how the evil gumment was killing and disappearing people they didn’t like. His proof? There was absolutely **NO** evidence! That was the proof that there was a cover-up. It all seems so clear now, right? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![John\_Denning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@John\_Denning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Denning)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/62 "2015-08-02T13:28:48Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Why would you fake the footage if you actually made it to the moon? Because nobody actually made it to the moon, obviously. JD ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/63 "2015-08-02T14:29:48Z")
Did you read my post?if you leave out the preceding sentence, that changes the entire context of my question. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/64 "2015-08-02T14:32:45Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > What? Why would you fake the footage if you actually made it to the moon? Save money on catering, mostly. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Denning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@John\_Denning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Denning)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/65 "2015-08-03T00:57:16Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Did you read my post?if you leave out the preceding sentence, that changes the entire context of my question. Sorry, I misinterpreted what you were saying. Yes, the old moon landing thing. I’ve been researching this for years now. Looking at many of the ‘let’s go and punch all the moon landing conspiracy theorists in the head’ posts at the start of this thread, I’ve concluded that these posters probably weren’t even born when Armstrong took his supposed giant leap for mankind. I actually feel sorry for the guy - he had to live with the lie for the rest of his life and was not allowed to tell anyone the truth. It clearly had an effect on him, as it did on the other astronauts who were forced/coerced into being part of this moon landing fairy tale. As for Kubrick, I have my own theories as to why he filmed the moon landing here on Earth but it’s purely speculative. I have no doubt, however, that the filming was done here and it explains a mystery to me that I previously battled to solve, namely why King and Kubrick had a falling out following the release of the movie ‘The Shining’. In fact King insisted on a remake with another producer, which of course did later happen. JD ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/66 "2015-08-03T01:01:27Z")
Wait, you really belive this? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/67 "2015-08-03T01:04:37Z")
> [@John\_Denning](#): > > Sorry, I misinterpreted what you were saying. That’s not the only thing you’re misinterpreting. > [@](#): > > Yes, the old moon landing thing. I’ve been researching this for years now. Looking at many of the ‘let’s go and punch all the moon landing conspiracy theorists in the head’ posts at the start of this thread, I’ve concluded that these posters probably weren’t even born when Armstrong took his supposed giant leap for mankind. Armstrong’s steps on the Moon were not supposed. They happened. FYI: I was alive when they happened. > [@](#): > > I actually feel sorry for the guy - he had to live with the lie for the rest of his life and was not allowed to tell anyone the truth. I feel a lot of admiration for the man. He clearly accomplished something amazing. It was so amazing that morons malign it with asinine accusations of it not happening. Armstrong and the other astronauts are not “living with a lie”. > [@](#): > > It clearly had an effect on him, as it did on the other astronauts who were forced/coerced into being part of this moon landing fairy tale. This is the best proof that you don’t have a clue as to what research is. > [@](#): > > As for Kubrick, I have my own theories as to why he filmed the moon landing here on Earth but it’s purely speculative. I have no doubt, however, that the filming was done here and it explains a mystery to me that I previously battled to solve, namely why King and Kubrick had a falling out following the release of the movie ‘The Shining’. In fact King insisted on a remake with another producer, which of course did later happen. > > JD Well, Kubrick did not film the Apollo missions’ Moon landings, so this paragraph of yours, besides demonstrating your stupidity, is worthless. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/68 "2015-08-03T01:05:18Z")
> [@John\_Denning](#): > > Sorry, I misinterpreted what you were saying. Yes, the old moon landing thing. I’ve been researching this for years now. > JD So present the results of your research. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Denning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@John\_Denning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Denning)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/69 "2015-08-03T01:05:56Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > **Cooper:** You don’t believe we went to the Moon? > **Ms. Kelly:** I believe it was a brilliant piece of propaganda, that the Soviets bankrupted themselves pouring resources into rockets and other useless machines… > **Cooper:** Useless machines? > **Ms. Kelly:** And if we don’t want to repeat of the excess and wastefulness of the 20th Century then we need to teach our kids about this planet, not tales of leaving it. > **Cooper:** You know, one of those useless machines they used to make was called an MRI, and if we had one of those left the doctors would have been able to find the cyst in my wife’s brain, before she died instead of afterwards, and then she would’ve been the one sitting here, listening to this instead of me which would’ve been a good thing because she was always the… calmer one. > **Ms. Kelly:** Murph got into a fistfight with several of her classmates over this Apollo nonsense. So we thought it would be best to bring you in and see what ideas you might have for dealing with her behaviour on the home front. > **Cooper:** Alright… yeah, you know what? There’s a game tomorrow night. She’s going through a bit of a baseball phase. Her favourite team is playing. There’s gonna be candy and soda and… > [smiles] > **Cooper:** Yeah… I think I’ll take her to that… > > - Interstellar, 2014 I’m curious - what does the moon landing hoax have to do with an MRI machine? JD ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/70 "2015-08-03T01:07:48Z")
> [@John\_Denning](#): > > I’m curious - what does the moon landing hoax have to do with an MRI machine? > > JD I’m curious - what does the bullshit you posted have to do with reality? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/71 "2015-08-03T01:11:43Z")
> [@John\_Denning](#): > > I’m curious - what does the moon landing hoax have to do with an MRI machine? > > JD It’s one of the benefits that came out of the space program. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/72 "2015-08-03T01:16:52Z")
So, Denning; when do you have to be back in school? When you return, be sure to pay close attention in science class. I remember my 8th and 9th grade science classes fondly. I learned about the scientific theory and what research actually is. You’re in for a treat! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/73 "2015-08-03T01:32:15Z")
Denning: I forgot to ask you something. Did you happen to read this thread’s OP? I direct your attention to: > [@](#): > > And to any poster who decides he or she is going to hijack this thread to spew more “It was a hoax” bullshit: You, sir/ma’am, are too stupid to breathe; it’s a miracle you’re still alive. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/74 "2015-08-03T02:01:37Z")
Wow! Just wow! This degree of human idiocy, so close to home. It’s like finding an Al Qaeda terror cell in the apartment just downstairs, or finding a co-worker who believes in the Flat Earth. Scary. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/75 "2015-08-03T02:16:34Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > Since people seem to be eager for it, I’m happy to inform you that there is in fact video of Buzz punching a conspiracy theorist in the face. It was well deserved as he was harassing him. It’s on Youtube. That video made my day, week, month, year, decade. [Buzz Aldrin kicks ass, doesn’t bother to take names](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wptn5RE2I-k). YouTube video. Length=1:46. Punch is at 1:32 but you really need to watch the whole thing to see all of the knuckle-dragger’s whiny baiting. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/76 "2015-08-03T02:59:26Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > That video made my day, week, month, year, decade. > > [Buzz Aldrin kicks ass, doesn’t bother to take names](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wptn5RE2I-k). > > YouTube video. Length=1:46. > > Punch is at 1:32 but you really need to watch the whole thing to see all of the knuckle-dragger’s whiny baiting. Bart Sibrel is sort of a premiere nutcase. Got what he deserved. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/77 "2015-08-03T03:18:50Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > It’s one of the benefits that came out of the space program. Is the MRI really from the space program? The basic idea of NMR (and working NMR instruments) had been around for a couple decades. I’m just asking because this is the first time I’ve heard of MRI described this way. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/78 "2015-08-03T03:41:33Z")
> [@Patch](#): > > Forget Buzz. Let’s send [Vitaly Minakov](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitaly_Minakov) on tour. No, wait, keep Buzz: Y’see, we send them both \*together \*in an odd-couple road-buddy Reality Show, the old-school American aerospace icon and the modern tough Russian fighter. Together they fight ignorance! Hijinks ensue and in every episode a couple of Moon Hoaxers experience high acceleration forces to their craniums. Dr. Aldrin would love it, Og bless him unlike his two crewmates he digs publicity. > [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > Punch is at 1:32 but you really need to watch the whole thing to see all of the knuckle-dragger’s whiny baiting. Someone in an earlier thread mentioned it: calling a man who dogfought MiGs over Korea a coward and a liar, is fightin’ words. It was at the moment he said those words that Buzz simply struck, talkin’ time over. Bet Sibrel did not expect that… ---
**Author:** ![John\_Denning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@John\_Denning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Denning)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/79 "2015-08-03T07:27:15Z")
Monty \*\*\* Armstrong’s steps on the Moon were not supposed. They happened. FYI: I was alive when they happened.\*\*\* So you saw the alleged moon landing images on a grainy black and white television like everyone else, then, whilst Nixon was strutting around like a peacock proclaiming to the world America’s scientific brilliance, so it must be true, right? * * * I feel a lot of admiration for the man. (Armstrong) He clearly accomplished something amazing. \*\*\* So you are told was the case, so again, it must be true? * * * Well, Kubrick did not film the Apollo missions’ Moon landings, so this paragraph of yours, besides demonstrating your stupidity, is worthless.\*\*\* Things are not always as they seem, Monty. JD ---
**Author:** ![John\_Denning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@John\_Denning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Denning)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868/80 "2015-08-03T07:29:43Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > It’s one of the benefits that came out of the space program. But again, RC, technology aside, how does an MRI machine and a country claiming to have put men on the moon in any way correlate? JD [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-morons-still-trashing-buzz/725868.md?page=5)