# Fucking scammer motherfuckers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 28, 2022, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240 "2022-12-28T21:57:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 38

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/741 "2026-02-13T18:33:25Z")

</div>

> [@echoreply](#):
>
> Does your phone have password-less access to your email and do you ever use that phone number for account recovery authentication?

Nope. I only use the phone for the GPS feature or to ::gasp:: make phone calls.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/742 "2026-02-13T18:37:55Z")

</div>

Wait, what? Phones can make calls??

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/743 "2026-02-13T19:38:37Z")

</div>

Well, I had a hell of a time gluing that dial to it.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/744 "2026-02-13T19:41:45Z")

</div>

Hahaha! There’s an app for that, of course:

> **[vintagePhone App - App Store](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/vintagephone/id438179925)**
>
> Download vintagePhone by Patoing mobile media on the App Store. See screenshots, ratings and reviews, user tips, and more apps like vintagePhone.

> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.demarco.rotaryphone>
>
> Make phone calls with the best rotary phone interface...

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/745 "2026-02-13T19:45:12Z")

</div>

There is a cell phone for that: [This rotary cell phone actually works - and you can buy it, too - Digital Trends](https://www.digitaltrends.com/phones/this-rotary-cell-phone-actually-works-and-you-can-buy-it/)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/746 "2026-02-13T22:06:00Z")

</div>

“You will be redirect”

Failure to use the past participle is a dead giveaway. For now. If this keeps on, in another hundred years the English past participle will have vanish.

_She has close her eyes.  
She has give up hope._

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2026, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/747 "2026-02-14T00:34:03Z")

</div>

Good catch. Didn’t see that.

I was tempted to click on the link, as I was curious to see what the scammer’s website look like. But decided not to; too risky.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2026, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/748 "2026-02-14T01:25:44Z")

</div>

[Browserling](https://www.browserling.com/) offers a sandbox environment to run such things in. You only get 3 minutes if you don’t have an account (paid) but it’s enough to get a peek.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2026, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/749 "2026-02-14T06:39:01Z")

</div>

Wouldn’t it be easier to check the email address it comes from? I get those spams also, and it is pretty clear they are not coming from Chase.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2026, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/750 "2026-02-14T15:58:50Z")

</div>

> [@Voyager](#):
>
> Wouldn’t it be easier to check the email address it comes from? I

The `From:` line of an email is set by the sender, and can be set to any email address they want. The reason scams don’t all come from `security@chase.com` is because of things called SPF and DMARC. You’re email provider will require that incoming messages have SPF and DMARC.

Unfortunately SPF and DMARC are things that are controlled (in this example) by Chase. Chase says “these IP addresses can send messages claiming to be from Chase” and DMARC says “reject any messages that don’t pass SPF.” So if the scammer sets the email to be `From: security@chase.com` it will be rejected before you even see it.

However, Chase can setup SPF and DMARC too permissively by saying “any IP addresses can send messages claiming to be from Chase” or “you should accept messages claiming to be from Chase even if they don’t pass SPF”. In this case your email provider will delivery the scam message to you, because SPF and DMARC are valid, Chase just set them at a level that is not useful to prevent scams. Chase probably has better IT than this, but does absolutely every company you work with?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2026, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/751 "2026-02-14T19:25:03Z")

</div>

If you look at full headers, you can tell if the address is spoofed. More importantly, though, if you mouse over the link you can be sure it is, since the link is where the danger is.  
All much easier than many email addresses. If I had that many, I’d never be able to check each one every week or so looking for bills.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2026, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/752 "2026-02-14T19:43:41Z")

</div>

> [@Voyager](#):
>
> All much easier than many email addresses.

You can add an identifier to a Gmail address: [myobviouslyfakeid+Chase@gmail.com](mailto:myobviouslyfakeid+Chase@gmail.com), which can be used to sort mail (and figure out who is selling your address). I have run into places that won’t allow the ‘+’ in an email address, so it doesn’t always work.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2026, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/753 "2026-02-14T19:54:47Z")

</div>

Works for snail mail also. I have no middle initial, but some companies add one for some reason, and I can trace who sold my address by the appearance of an initial.  
I know people who do that deliberately  
Back in the '70s the MIT Science Fiction Society would get junk mail addressed to  
Mr. T Science  
Fiction Society.

Kind of like tracing relationships though mutations on junk DNA.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2026, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/754 "2026-02-14T20:41:13Z")

</div>

> [@Voyager](#):
>
> If you look at full headers, you can tell if the address is spoofed

Absolutely, but show me one single IOS/IPAD email program that will show full headers. It’s often a major hurdle to even show the `<address@example.com>` of the email address instead of just the `"Name"` portion.

And no “but I don’t use a phone to check me email.” Living in the 90s is no way to get along in the world.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2026, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/755 "2026-02-15T00:47:26Z")

</div>

> [@Voyager](#):
>
> Works for snail mail also. I have no middle initial, but some companies add one for some reason, and I can trace who sold my address by the appearance of an initial.  
> I know people who do that deliberately  
> Back in the '70s the MIT Science Fiction Society would get junk mail addressed to  
> Mr. T Science  
> Fiction Society.

When I lived in the Federated States of Micronesia, pre-internet era, a scammer snail-mailed a letter to the Congress Library. The salutation was “Dear Mr. Library.”

I was very sad that the body of the letter did not begin with “May I call you ‘Congress?’”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2026, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/756 "2026-02-18T04:43:55Z")

</div>

> [@Voyager](#):
>
> I have no middle initial, but some companies add one for some reason, and I can trace who sold my address by the appearance of an initial.

Years ago, I registered a motorcycle in Utah and they got my middle initial wrong.

I could tell that was the source of a lot of junk mail.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2026, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/757 "2026-02-19T16:09:04Z")

</div>

That’s a copyright trap!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/758 "2026-04-01T00:03:12Z")

</div>

I think maybe the mention of large sums of money makes scammers even more stupid. The Readers Digress (maybe it was supposed to be Readers Digest) sweepstakes agent I have been dealing with since last Thursday has been blowing up my phone with texts this afternoon. I told him earlier that large amounts of cash come in and out of this farm every day. I mailed his money mule two $1000 USPS money orders this morning. I have to send the third one on Monday because the USPS won’t sell me more than that in a single calendar week. Because the bridge washed out on the road to the farm and the post office won’t come out here anymore, I had to use my Aunt Josephine’s post office box for the return address. He really, really wants the tracking number. Unfortunately, the post office’s printer ran out of ink when it was printing the receipt. He wants me to get the tracking number from the post office but they will only divulge that information to the sender. The way the envelope was addressed was C.J. … c/o Josephine Tuputamadre, P.O. Box … San Pendejo CO … . So they can only divulge the tracking number to Aunt Josephine. Aunt Josephine had to go to Canada for a funeral and then she will be in northern Ontario for quite awhile photographing wolverines. She’s almost 100 years old; I don’t know how she does it!

I really think that he believes all this.

I do have one question. Was that the correct use of a semi-colon in this post?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/759 "2026-04-01T00:07:07Z")

</div>

> [@Ynnad](#):
>
> I do have one question. Was that the correct use of a semi-colon in this post?

Yes! Well done!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240/760 "2026-04-01T00:38:54Z")

</div>

I think spinners of bullshit tend to be more accepting of bullshit from others. They are even more greedy than we are.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240.md?page=37)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-scammer-motherfuckers/977240.md?page=39)
