# Fucking U.S. Government **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 27, 2015, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975 "2015-01-27T02:46:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/41 "2015-01-27T15:53:59Z")
> [@April\_R](#): > > Reported for forum move So which forum are they going to move it to? Freerepublic? Timecube? ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/42 "2015-01-27T16:26:11Z")
To be honest, this [doesn’t](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States) [surprise me](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment) at all. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/43 "2015-01-27T16:33:58Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I try, but I’m in nested dreaming. Every time I “wake up”, I find I’m just in another level of dreaming. I’m not sure I’ll ever know if I get out of it. [The headache goes away.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=744470) ---
**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/44 "2015-01-27T16:39:26Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I try, but I’m in nested dreaming. Every time I “wake up”, I find I’m just in another level of dreaming. I’m not sure I’ll ever know if I get out of it. Inception 0\_o ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/45 "2015-01-27T16:40:08Z")
> [@DrCube](#): > > To be honest, this [doesn’t](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States) [surprise me](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment) at all. The government clearly lacked the foresight to understand the real harm those unethical experiments would cause— i.e. that they’d still be trotted out decades later to lend credence to every crackpot claim made by every Internet nutbag. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/46 "2015-01-27T16:51:37Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > . . .those were about putting ketchup on hot dogs. That’s the second craziest fucking thing I’ve ever read! ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/47 "2015-01-27T17:31:06Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > The government clearly lacked the foresight to understand the real harm those unethical experiments would cause— i.e. that they’d still be trotted out decades later to lend credence to every crackpot claim made by every Internet nutbag. Yeah, the government would _never_ torture someone in this new enlightened era. I’m not saying I necessarily believe the OP. Just that it’s hardly out of character for our government. He’s not claiming they faked the moon landing or sent black helicopters to probe his rectum while wiping the memories of aliens from his mind. Poorly covered-up torture and human experimentation is well within the expected behavior of our government. It’s like calling the OP a nut because he claimed he was mistreated by police. It’s just not that nutty or hard to believe. But hey, I wasn’t there. Maybe he’s lying. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/48 "2015-01-27T17:52:15Z")
> [@DrCube](#): > > Just that it’s hardly out of character for our government. A convoluted plot involving the Sheriff’s Office of Williamson County, TX? That involves the jail containing hidden experimentation areas with radiation equipment and weaponized food products? Um, sure. That sure passes the sniff test. If you want to suggest the federal government is likely to be running potentially illegal experimentation programs, go right ahead. I might actually agree with you. But doing that in this particular case seriously undercuts your credibility. Not everything a guy in a tinfoil hat says might be totally crazy. That doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to suggest we listen to some of things he says instead of getting him his fucking meds. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/49 "2015-01-27T17:54:00Z")
> [@DrCube](#): > > It’s like calling the OP a nut because he claimed he was mistreated by police. It’s just not that nutty or hard to believe. But hey, I wasn’t there. Maybe he’s lying. Stop encouraging the crazy. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/50 "2015-01-27T17:55:10Z")
> [@xizor](#): > > If the OP was tortured that much, can you imagine the secrets he/she must know? I bet he/she has been to area 51 AND knows who shot JFK. Meh. The big secret of Area 51 is that all the good stuff was actually stored in Area 52. As for who shot Kennedy, everyone knows by now that after all, it was you and me. ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/51 "2015-01-27T18:41:16Z")
Yeah, the dude writes like a crazy person. Not disputing that. Nor do I see the connection between WILCO prison and the federal government. Also, I have no clue how one would find out about radiation experiments, as it is basically undetectable, unless he’s walking around with a Geiger counter around his neck. And the food thing is probably a complaint about bad food or GMO food gone taken to the extreme. However, getting jailed on trumped up charges, being tortured by guards, forced to take psych pills against your wishes, and committed to a mental institution after your release sounds like par for the course if you’re poor and weird in this country. Also, though I haven’t seen any evidence for it, experimenting on prisoners is quite believable to me. I’m not saying let’s start a movement based on the OP’s ramblings, but it doesn’t even rise to the level of “Obama was born in Kenya”, let alone 9/11 truthers or Apollo CTs. If I read “Texas prison tortures inmates and feeds them experimental food” in the newspaper, it wouldn’t shock me in the slightest. It would just be another in a long line of government abuses that continue to this day. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/52 "2015-01-27T19:02:06Z")
> [@Honest4U](#): > > … They are using some areas of the facility to experiment with inmates either with radiation or/and with new re-engineering food. You know, I quit engineering and then came back to it just to gets me some of that yummy re-engineering food. Chocolate swirl is the best! ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/53 "2015-01-27T19:15:19Z")
Why does the plausibility matter in the slightest? If some crazed nutter sitting in his own filth and sporting a fancy tinfoil hat wants to discuss the advantages and disadvantages of a parliamentary system of government and how the aliens from Alpha Centauri are responsible for global warming via the tension between the US style two party system and coalition type parliamentary systems, my reaction is not “hey, he’s making some plausible and well reasoned points”. My reaction is “Let’s not touch him and let’s get this guy some help and/or meds”. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/54 "2015-01-27T19:40:00Z")
If we had a parliamentary system, who would get to be king? I nominate Gary Busey. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/55 "2015-01-27T19:53:26Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I try, but I’m in nested dreaming. Every time I “wake up”, I find I’m just in another level of dreaming. I’m not sure I’ll ever know if I get out of it. Is the top still spinning? ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/56 "2015-01-27T20:01:43Z")
Interesting. I looked on Google Maps and all of Williamson County, Texas is blacked out. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/57 "2015-01-27T22:34:03Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > If we had a parliamentary system, who would get to be king? George Clinton, obviously. ---
**Author:** ![Billy-o](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Billy-o](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billy-o)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/58 "2015-01-27T23:07:50Z")
> [@Honest4U](#): > > they wanted to cover their fucking rotten backs with psychiatric conditions I wonder how they gave their backs psychiatric conditions. _Seriously_ poor posture? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/59 "2015-01-27T23:45:48Z")
Dang. I knew I’m missing some snippets of news, what with living in China. But I’m in the capital city and figured that the really important stuff would still get through. How did I miss Williamson County, Texas taking over all of the US government? Okay. I’m cool with that, since I really can’t do anything about it from this far remove. So for you folks back in the US, how has that worked out? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2015, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975/60 "2015-01-28T00:05:56Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > If we had a parliamentary system, who would get to be king? I nominate Gary Busey. Can’t we have an [Emperor](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Norton) instead? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-government/710975.md?page=4)