# Fucking U.S. Naval Academy

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 24, 2006, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062 "2006-05-24T18:40:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/41 "2006-05-25T06:45:32Z")

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> [@Poysyn](#):
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> Beer Bottles?!!
> 
> Watch how high you toss those suckers!
> 
> FOD

Not to worry; after the 8th or 9th, up and sideways become somewhat interchangeable… I don’t think they’re in too much danger.

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**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/42 "2006-05-25T09:21:54Z")

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Last June I had to attend the Air Force Academy graduation. The hotel my family was staying at wasn’t more than a mile or two from the base and for about two days before the actual ceremony, the AF pilots (whatever they call their version of the Blue Angels) were doing practice runs. It does get annoying pretty damn fast (especially when you’re trying to take a nap, having been up at three AM to catch an early-morning flight, and know you need to be in the audience at some ceremony which, for no particular reason, is at frickin’ _midnight_).

I will say, though, that the planes made for an impressive moment at graduation - they grads are ‘dismissed’, they all throw their silly-looking hats, and _ **vooooom** _ HolyCrapJets!

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/43 "2006-05-25T12:16:43Z")

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I used to live very close to Andrews Air Force Base, every year for Armed Forces day there was an air show. The Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds took turns ever other year performing. Various other groups were there also. Never bothered me a bit, although it would shake the china on occasion.

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**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/44 "2006-05-25T13:41:58Z")

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**commasense** : The T-birds are a _demonstration team_. From time to time, they demonstrate crashes and violent egress from their aircraft.

What I want to know is why the Army doesn’t have a demonstration team for helos.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/45 "2006-05-25T14:11:43Z")

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You can’t fly helos close enough together to be visually impressive from the ground. The Army does have the Golden Knights precision parachuting team, though, and they do put on a good show.

**Cerberus** , the Blues still use the original Hornet.

I don’t get the rant, either. I _like_ jet noise.

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/46 "2006-05-25T16:12:37Z")

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Funny you mention this. I think this is Fleet Week in NYC. This morning we had a top exec meeting in my building downtown. Every five minutes a half dozen jets would fly really fucking close to our building, drowning out every other word. Very annoying.

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**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/47 "2006-05-25T17:20:17Z")

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> [@Asylum](#):
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> Alternately, he didn’t know what he was talking about, and instead of asking for clarification he acted like a dick.

Excuse me, but that was most certainly NOT acting like a dick. Someone with over 1,000 posts on this board might actually know by now that posting brief OPs without caveats is pretty likely to get it misinterpreted. Yours did.

If you bothered to read my entire fucking post, which apparently you didn’t, you’d notice I SPECIFICALLY said “If this isn’t your situation, I apologize.”

So you can take your big big plate of shut the fuck up back to the kitchen and eat it yourself, it’s not what I ordered.

As someone with a small child who naps in the middle of the day, I definitely know what it’s like to have to deal with unexpected, obnoxious noise, and I sympathise.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/48 "2006-05-25T17:23:11Z")

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For what it’s worth, I sure didn’t see any dick acting by **crazyjoe** in his post. I did see some over reacting by others, tho.  
It’s the fucking PIT, people. You takes your chances…

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/49 "2006-05-25T17:29:36Z")

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As part of my ongoing master plan to return the USA to the status of peacetime military power, I propose replacing the Blue Angels’ F-18s with [F3Fs](http://www.geocities.com/glupscherle/GrumF3F1.jpg).

Don’t even get me _started_ about what I’d do with the 1st Cavalry.

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**Author:** ![VegemiteMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/df788c/32.png) [@VegemiteMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VegemiteMoose)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/50 "2006-05-25T17:53:24Z")

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> [@Asylum](#):
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> Dear Department of the Navy,
> 
> Could you please have the Blue Angels stop buzzing my fucking house?
> 
> Thanks in advance,  
> Asylum

I suggest you run back and forth in front of the U.S. Naval Academy while lighting your farts. Fair’s fair.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/51 "2006-05-25T19:27:47Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I wonder what the series of penalties would be for nailing a Blue Angel with a 30-06?

Actually, it could be murder. When my pastor was in the air force, he was an electronics warfare officer aboad a B-52 stationed in the Philipines that was shot down with an AK-47! seems one lucky bullet severed the main and the auxillary hydrolic lines and they did an emergency landing with gear up and no control surfaces.

This from some a-hole plinking away at planes as they took off because he was nuts.

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**Author:** ![Asylum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@Asylum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asylum)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/52 "2006-05-25T20:13:50Z")

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> [@crazyjoe](#):
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> Excuse me, but that was most certainly NOT acting like a dick. Someone with over 1,000 posts on this board might actually know by now that posting brief OPs without caveats is pretty likely to get it misinterpreted. Yours did.
> 
> If you bothered to read my entire fucking post, which apparently you didn’t, you’d notice I SPECIFICALLY said “If this isn’t your situation, I apologize.”
> 
> So you can take your big big plate of shut the fuck up back to the kitchen and eat it yourself, it’s not what I ordered.
> 
> As someone with a small child who naps in the middle of the day, I definitely know what it’s like to have to deal with unexpected, obnoxious noise, and I sympathise.

Um, actually, Dick, you’re wrong. Your post stated that I didn’t have a right to complain since I knowingly moved into an area where there would be loud noise. Right here:

> [@](#):
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> Nothin more annoying than people who move into an area where there’s something like, say, an airport, or a jackhammer testing facility, and then bitching to get it shut down.

You assumed wrong and took a irritated stance with my complaining. Nice selective quoting of your post tho’.

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**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/53 "2006-05-25T20:37:21Z")

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> [@Asylum](#):
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> Um, actually, Dick, you’re wrong. Your post stated that I didn’t have a right to complain since I knowingly moved into an area where there would be loud noise. Right here:  
> You assumed wrong and took a irritated stance with my complaining. Nice selective quoting of your post tho’.

How’s your plate of shut the fuck up tasting? I suggest that while you’re eating, you take remedial reading 101.

Both of the examples I mentioned were of areas where one could be expected to have consistent, obnoxious noise, such as planes landing and taking off at all hours, or people testing jackhammers.

You, however, moved next to the Naval Acadamy, and (apparently) experienced a somewhat normal noise level for nearly a year. You are now complaining about a once-per-year thing. That’s understandable, since you didn’t move next to a source of obnoxious noise (insert joke about the Navy here).

I suppose it’s also understandable for you to be a bit testy because of lack of sleep, but I’m not going to excuse you consistently being a dipshit about it. I think I made it pretty clear exactly what sort of situation I THOUGHT you were in (based on your short and cryptic OP), and included a disclaimer should I be mistaken. Your later posts made it clear I WAS mistaken, so you’re really bitching because I complained about something completely unrelated to your situation. Talk about being irrelevant.

And yes, I ASSUMED. Not much more I could do with a one sentence OP. This is the BBQ Pit, last time I checked, and if you want to complain about something without shit like this happening, the onus is on you to provide a comprehensible rant in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Asylum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@Asylum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asylum)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/54 "2006-05-25T23:26:55Z")

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Okay, fuck this.

I disagree with you. Whenever I look at your first post of this thread it strikes me as unnecessarily rude, no matter what caveats you feel that you put into it.

Having said that, I apologize for my behavior towards you and I acknowledge that I may be wrong in my interpretation of your post. Posting on the internet can often lead to misunderstandings between people and I’m willing to assume that this is what happened both ways.

We both feel that the other stepped out of line, and it seems that neither of us can be convinced otherwise. However, I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt (and I hope that you do the same for me) that you’re a good person and this is an overall small misunderstanding between overall good people that got blown up.

And let me issue a second, separate apology related to my behavior, because while I’m not opposed to being rude to people online, I think that behavior is only appropriate when they have proven themselves to be assholes and unwilling to listen to reason. Your post did not meet that criteria, and while I think that I _maybe_ could have been justified with a bit of a snarky response to you, I stepped over the line with the responses I posted.

So, friends?

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**Author:** ![cabdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@cabdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cabdude)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/55 "2006-05-25T23:41:43Z")

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Huh! A differing point of view and harsh words lead to conflict. In teh PIT of all places! Who’da thunk it?

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**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2006, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/56 "2006-05-26T15:48:47Z")

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We’re cool. You are right in that I could have been a little less confrontational in my original post.  
And you do have my sympathy in regards to the planes.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2006, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/57 "2006-05-26T16:03:16Z")

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Well, jeez, **Asylum** and **crazyjoe** , if you’re both going to be all reasonable and conciliatory and everything, this thread just got a whole lot more boring. And after such a promising start. (I really liked “So you can take your big big plate of shut the fuck up back to the kitchen and eat it yourself, it’s not what I ordered.”)

What kind of Pitters are you, anyway?

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**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2006, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/58 "2006-05-27T23:47:50Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I wonder what the series of penalties would be for nailing a Blue Angel with a 30-06?

**F/A-18C Armament:**  
Nine pylons – 2 wingtip, 4 underwing, and 3 fusalage, carrying up to 13,700 lb (6,215 kg) of missiles, rockets, bombs, fuel tanks, and pods  
1x 20 mm M61 Vulcan internal gatling gun  
Missiles:  
Air-to-air: AIM-9 Sidewinder, AIM-120 AMRAAM, AIM-7 Sparrow  
Air-to-ground: AGM-45 Shrike, AGM-65 Maverick, AGM-88 HARM, SLAM-ER, JSOW  
Anti-ship: AGM-84 Harpoon  
Bombs: CBU-87 cluster, CBU-89 gator mine, CBU-97 CEM, Paveway, JDAM, Mk 80 series, nuclear bombs.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/59 "2006-05-29T14:23:58Z")

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[QUOTE=riker1384]

> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I wonder what the series of penalties would be for nailing a Blue Angel with a 30-06?[/qoute] **F/A-18C Armament:**  
> Nine pylons – 2 wingtip, 4 underwing, and 3 fusalage, carrying up to 13,700 lb (6,215 kg) of missiles, rockets, bombs, fuel tanks, and pods  
> 1x 20 mm M61 Vulcan internal gatling gun  
> Missiles:  
> Air-to-air: AIM-9 Sidewinder, AIM-120 AMRAAM, AIM-7 Sparrow  
> Air-to-ground: AGM-45 Shrike, AGM-65 Maverick, AGM-88 HARM, SLAM-ER, JSOW  
> Anti-ship: AGM-84 Harpoon  
> Bombs: CBU-87 cluster, CBU-89 gator mine, CBU-97 CEM, Paveway, JDAM, Mk 80 series, nuclear bombs.

The Blue Angels aren’t armed when they do a show at the Naval Academy. Only when they’re in enemy territory, like Andrews Air Force Base.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-u-s-naval-academy/358062/60 "2006-05-29T15:30:37Z")

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[QUOTE=commasense]

> [@riker1384](#):
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> The Blue Angels aren’t armed when they do a show at the Naval Academy. Only when they’re in enemy territory, like Andrews Air Force Base.

[http://www.planestuff.com/fuedindux.html](http://www.planestuff.com/fuedindux.html)

😃

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