# Fucking'ell not again! **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 16, 2009, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001 "2009-06-16T23:00:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/21 "2009-06-17T16:37:13Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > How could something like this happen? I suspect that the way it happened the second time may be similar to the way it happened the first time, but we’ll need to run a double-blind study (once we’ve been able to obtain financing from DoE, DoD, NATO and the Christian Fund For More Babies). Any volunteers? ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/22 "2009-06-17T17:22:02Z")
> [@China\_Guy](#): > > mswas, maybe you’ll get lucky and have twin girls the second time around. I did. Imagine doing what you do with twins. 🙂 I say that to my wife and she is always like, “Don’t…even…joke.”, luckily we don’t have a history of twins on either side of our family. I called her Myrtle the Fertile Turtle and she told me I can do that ten times in the whole pregnancy, I’ve already expended two of my ten. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ice\_Machine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Ice\_Machine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Machine)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/23 "2009-06-17T18:13:46Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > I say that to my wife and she is always like, “Don’t…even…joke.”, luckily we don’t have a history of twins on either side of our family. > > I called her Myrtle the Fertile Turtle and she told me I can do that ten times in the whole pregnancy, I’ve already expended two of my ten. 😉 We found out a few weeks ago the day before going overseas on vacation that we have a third one on the way (the oldest is turning 5 next week). My wife and kids are staying for the summer but I needed to be back at work. Lately my wife is complaing that she’s growing too big too soon and is commenting on potentially having twins. Apparrantly there are twins somewhere in her family but not mine. She’ll find out soon enough when she gets an ultrasound but right now I’m attempting to enjoy the solitude this summer because it will soon change. One thing I’m certain of is that I’ll be going under the knife sometime soon. ---
**Author:** ![purple\_haze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/db5fbb/32.png) [@purple\_haze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purple_haze)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/24 "2009-06-17T18:22:04Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > Heh. 20+ years from now, you’ll look back on all this fondly. Now _that’s_ funny. My daughter is 20, and I’m definitely not into the looking back and laughing phase yet. ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/25 "2009-06-17T18:34:53Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > How could something like this happen? When a Mommy mswas and a Daddy mswas love each other they have a very special way of hugging … ---
**Author:** ![schnuckiputzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@schnuckiputzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/schnuckiputzi)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/26 "2009-06-17T20:25:51Z")
Eh. Mine are 19, 16, and 14, and I’m at the looking back and sniggering stage. I have no idea how I managed to go grocery shopping with them. ---
**Author:** ![torie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@torie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/torie)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/27 "2009-06-17T20:44:54Z")
I had two boys in 15 months. At the moment, my oldest is running around the living room, handing me his spoon, screaming and taking it back, throwing around the bread from his sandwich that he will not eat but won’t let me take to the kitchen either, and trying to climb into his little brother’s swing. His little brother is busily producing one heck of a poop that I am going to have to change while simultaneously barring big brother from putting his hand in. Little brother is two months old and waking for at least 2-3 hours in the middle of the night, so i am doing all of this with no sleep. A three year age difference sounds easy-peasy to me. Congratulations. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/28 "2009-06-17T22:04:33Z")
Re: little kids and grocery shopping. Several of our Dopers in a recent thread recommended the grocery delivery company Pea Pod as a lifesaver when their kids were toddlers. I don’t remember them mentioning that it cost any more shopping through PP, but they did say that it saved their sanity. They only used it for the duration of toddlerhood. Even if it cost a bit more, it’d be worth it, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/29 "2009-06-18T05:33:36Z")
Usually I either took my husband shopping with me, so he could amuse the baby, or I had him babysit while I shopped. Bill loves kids, so he was usually more than happy to play with Lisa, either in the store or at home. I also had a harness for her, which I used when she was a baby and toddler. It worked like a safety belt in a stroller or shopping cart, and could also be used while she was walking, to make sure that she didn’t wander off from my side. I had some snide remarks from strangers on occasion, but most people seemed to think it was a great idea. I highly recommend it. ---
**Author:** ![SomeUserName](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e480ec/32.png) [@SomeUserName](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SomeUserName)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/30 "2009-06-18T11:06:35Z")
> [@schnuckiputzi](#): > > Eh. Mine are 19, 16, and 14, and I’m at the looking back and sniggering stage. I have no idea how I managed to go grocery shopping with them. Same here. Mine are 20 and 18 and there are times I cannot even imagine how I did it. I know it was hard and the time seemed to move in slow motion. Then they were toddlers, then they were going to school, then they were teenagers and bam they are full grown. Looking back now it seemed to go so fast, not so much when you smack in the middle of it. ---
**Author:** ![Shark\_Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shark\_Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shark_Sandwich)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/31 "2009-06-18T16:57:53Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > How could something like this happen? Cheap bottle of wine and some Otis Redding on the radio? Put a TV in the bedroom. All of your problems will be solved\*. BTW - Congrats! That is, unless you watch pr0n on it, or until the power goes out. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/32 "2009-06-18T17:21:16Z")
> [@teela\_brown](#): > > Re: little kids and grocery shopping. Several of our Dopers in a recent thread recommended the grocery delivery company Pea Pod as a lifesaver when their kids were toddlers. I don’t remember them mentioning that it cost any more shopping through PP, but they did say that it saved their sanity. They only used it for the duration of toddlerhood. Even if it cost a bit more, it’d be worth it, IMO. May work for Mswas, IIRC he lives in the metro NY area somewhere … but there are LARGE areas of the US it is not an option … ---
**Author:** ![Belrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed655f/32.png) [@Belrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belrix)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/33 "2009-06-18T17:57:22Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > Usually I either took my husband shopping with me, so he could amuse the baby, **or I had him babysit** \* while I shopped. Bill loves kids, so he was usually more than happy to play with Lisa, either in the store or at home. Ahem. He was _parenting_, not _babysitting._ One of my little pet peeves… \*Emphasis (and asterisk) mine. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/34 "2009-06-18T22:09:14Z")
> [@Ice\_Machine](#): > > We found out a few weeks ago the day before going overseas on vacation that we have a third one on the way (the oldest is turning 5 next week). My wife and kids are staying for the summer but I needed to be back at work. Lately my wife is complaing that she’s growing too big too soon and is commenting on potentially having twins. Apparrantly there are twins somewhere in her family but not mine. She’ll find out soon enough when she gets an ultrasound but right now I’m attempting to enjoy the solitude this summer because it will soon change. One thing I’m certain of is that I’ll be going under the knife sometime soon. Heh, damn. My Dad had a vasectomy too. I don’t know how I would handle twins. Four kids is a heavy burden. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/35 "2009-06-18T22:10:20Z")
> [@teela\_brown](#): > > Re: little kids and grocery shopping. Several of our Dopers in a recent thread recommended the grocery delivery company Pea Pod as a lifesaver when their kids were toddlers. I don’t remember them mentioning that it cost any more shopping through PP, but they did say that it saved their sanity. They only used it for the duration of toddlerhood. Even if it cost a bit more, it’d be worth it, IMO. Yeah we use Fresh Direct from time to time. Kind of expensive though. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/36 "2009-06-18T22:11:21Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > May work for Mswas, IIRC he lives in the metro NY area somewhere … but there are LARGE areas of the US it is not an option … Yeah, I live in Manhattan. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![kbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4491bb/32.png) [@kbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kbear)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/37 "2009-06-18T22:26:33Z")
> [@schnuckiputzi](#): > > … I have no idea how I managed to go grocery shopping with them. First thing we’d do with the twins is head for the bread department and open a bag of mini croissants. It kept them occupied long enough to get the basics. Hubby always let them use the mini shopping trollies the store had so “thoughtfully” provided for children. Of course they always behaved for him. The one time I tried it, it was cute for about 5 minutes. Halfway through the excursion, one of them decided she didn’t want the vegetables in her cart any more and dumped them all in aisle 9 so she could put the cookies in. When I finally got through the cash I realized I had brought my daytimer, not my wallet and when they discovered we had to leave all the groceries behind, they both started freaking out. I ended up leaving the store with one over each shoulder screaming their heads off with everyone assuming I was some kind of deadbeat who couldn’t pay for her food :-/ Now I have them delivered ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/38 "2009-06-18T23:27:49Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Yeah, I live in Manhattan. 😉 Well you did discuss your moving house … but I couldn’t remember to _where_ And when are we doing Peter Lugers? Surgery got bumped to august 11th, so I got time now =) ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/39 "2009-06-19T00:04:40Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > Well you did discuss your moving house … but I couldn’t remember to _where_ > > And when are we doing Peter Lugers? Surgery got bumped to august 11th, so I got time now =) Late July or early August might be a possibility. I moved from Brooklyn to Manhattan. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001/40 "2009-06-19T01:14:50Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Late July or early August might be a possibility. > > I moved from Brooklyn to Manhattan. July would probably be better =) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuckingell-not-again/500001.md?page=3)