# Fully domesticated men-what do you think of 'em? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 16, 2012, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897 "2012-10-16T16:23:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ecoaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/85e7bf/32.png) [@ecoaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ecoaster)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/1 "2012-10-16T16:23:38Z")
Them that cook, clean and generally pull their weight on the homestead… ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/2 "2012-10-16T16:25:15Z")
I hear they’re not as gamy. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/3 "2012-10-16T16:26:14Z")
My g/f thinks they are wonderful. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/4 "2012-10-16T16:27:21Z")
Where I live (the 21st century) we just call them “men”. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/5 "2012-10-16T16:46:52Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Where I live (the 21st century) we just call them “men”. Yep. Now, there are people that are naturally messy (me), and people who think that cleaning and such is for the women-folk (not me). A very crucial distinction, even though the results may be the same 😉 ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/6 "2012-10-16T16:58:43Z")
I’m not sure how to vote. I do everything around the home (as I live alone, so I have no choice), but I also have a full time job. ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/7 "2012-10-16T17:01:11Z")
> [@ecoaster](#): > > Them that cook, clean and generally pull their weight on the homestead… You mean civilized adults? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/8 "2012-10-16T17:02:23Z")
I call that sort of thing being “self-sufficient.” I cooked, cleaned, did laundry, etc. for myself when I was single. Those things still need done now and whoever has the time to do them does them. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/9 "2012-10-16T17:03:08Z")
I can’t cook for shit, but my wife can’t either, so we fail to pull our weight equally. Does that count? ---
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/10 "2012-10-16T17:05:57Z")
One thing I love about my husband is that he came to me already housebroken, after 14 years of marriage to a woman who didn’t do anything. He’s grateful when I do stuff, but able to do it himself (and to recognize that it needs doing) when I don’t. The breakfast trays he brought me after my c-section made me cry, they were so nice. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/11 "2012-10-16T17:07:08Z")
The OP was incredibly vague but I think he or she was talking about men who do all the housework but don’t have a job, or maybe only a part time job. A stay at home husband. At least that’s what I got out of the poll options. ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/12 "2012-10-16T17:09:08Z")
Earlier joke aside, as of right now my husband brings in the income, I handle the domestic front. This will need to change due to his pending layoff next spring, and I know from experience that he’s pretty inept on the domestic front. His mother swears she tried to train him, and his brother is a lot more competent in such matters. ---
**Author:** ![ecoaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/85e7bf/32.png) [@ecoaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ecoaster)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/13 "2012-10-16T17:11:50Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > The OP was incredibly vague but I think he or she was talking about men who do all the housework but don’t have a job, or maybe only a part time job. A stay at home husband. At least that’s what I got out of the poll options. Fair enough. I should have added the option: “Can’t do it all, greenbacks before flapjacks”. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/14 "2012-10-16T17:16:05Z")
Work (housework) doesn’t care who does it. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/15 "2012-10-16T17:20:38Z")
That’s rather presumptuous of you. I think housework is entitled to speak for itself on such matters. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/16 "2012-10-16T17:22:15Z")
I’m a gay man who loves to cook, and actually doesn’t mind cleaning. Of course, I like doing yard work too! So I voted that I’m domesticated 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/17 "2012-10-16T17:31:05Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > I’m a gay man who loves to cook, and actually doesn’t mind cleaning. Of course, I like doing yard work too! > > So I voted that I’m domesticated 🙂 Will you marry me? I promise you can have a boyfriend on the side, only fair since I will have one too. ---
**Author:** ![Foxy40](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Foxy40](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foxy40)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/18 "2012-10-16T17:34:07Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Where I live (the 21st century) we just call them “men”. Agreed. Did I miss the memo where household chores were still women’s work? ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/19 "2012-10-16T17:53:22Z")
Wife and I both have full-time jobs. At home we share some duties, but others seem to belong uniquely to either her or me. Me: -take care of exterior of house (mowing, trimming plants, shoveling driveway), cars (various repairs, hand washing), and various home repairs. I also process our tax return every year. She: -laundry We: -cooking, house cleaning Her list of home chores is shorter than mine, but her day job also consumes considerably more than 40 hours a week. I also spend more money than she does (my car costs more, and I have an expensive motorcycling habit), so all in all it actually seems roughly fair to me. ---
**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/20 "2012-10-16T17:56:20Z")
I do most of the cooking but I don’t do a lot of cleaning, partly because we disagree on how much cleaning is needed. My house wasn’t dust free and sterile when we met because I don’t think that is important. And _gasp_ my clothes weren’t always immaculately cleaned and pressed. Getting married didn’t change that. On the other hand, when the basement leaks in a rainstorm, a window is broken, a tree falls on the shed, wood needs to be chopped or a dead animal turns up in the yard we don’t discuss whether my wife is a “modern” woman because we already know who is going to take care of those things. I think earning most of the income and taking care of every nasty, shit job that comes up entitles me to a little slack in the throw pillow dusting and knick-knack polishing areas. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897.md?page=2)