# Fully domesticated men-what do you think of 'em? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 16, 2012, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897 "2012-10-16T16:23:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/21 "2012-10-16T17:57:01Z")
> [@Foxy40](#): > > Agreed. Did I miss the memo where household chores were still women’s work? There weren’t enough memos to go around, so we’d ask all women to please read the nearest man’s memo when he’s through with it. ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/22 "2012-10-16T18:19:16Z")
I am confused by the implication that doing chores is somehow related to not having any job ambition or skills. What’s the connection? What does this option even mean?: \*That’s my sweetie. Wish he would learn a thing or two about applyin’ his self in the workforce. \* ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/23 "2012-10-16T18:21:58Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > There weren’t enough memos to go around, so we’d ask all women to please read the nearest man’s memo when he’s through with it. They can read them after they get back from the kitchen with the sandwiches and not before. ---
**Author:** ![Lanzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Lanzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lanzy)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/24 "2012-10-16T18:23:58Z")
What do you tink of the Pigs that are not like that? ---
**Author:** ![FlyByNight512](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/82dd89/32.png) [@FlyByNight512](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyByNight512)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/25 "2012-10-16T18:24:25Z")
Right now I’m bringing in the only paycheck and have a _very_ long commute, so my husband takes care of almost all the house work. I call this being a normal person. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/26 "2012-10-16T18:36:48Z")
Things I routinely do: - Cut lawn - Shovel/snowblow steps, deck, driveway - Clean and maintain pool - Make my lunch for work - Buy groceries - Fix broken things including cars and car maintenance Things routinely done by wife: - Laundry - Uhhh, that’s all I got. Things we both take turns at or share duties in: - Cook - Clean bathrooms - Clean dishes/kitchen - Make kids’ lunch for school - Vacuum ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/27 "2012-10-16T18:36:51Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > They can read them after they get back from the kitchen with the sandwiches and not before. Who the hell taught them to read outside of a recipe book? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/28 "2012-10-16T18:41:25Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Things I routinely do: > > - Cut lawn > - Shovel/snowblow steps, deck, driveway > - Clean and maintain pool > - Make my lunch for work > - Buy groceries > - Fix broken things including cars and car maintenance I don’t do any of those things. OK, sometimes I buy groceries. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/29 "2012-10-16T18:42:32Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Who the hell taught them to read outside of a recipe book? :dubious: It was unavoidable. We wanted them to be able to correctly read beer labels and movie titles (so they’d quit bringing home the wrong stuff) and, well… ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/30 "2012-10-16T18:52:35Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > I call that sort of thing being “self-sufficient.” I cooked, cleaned, did laundry, etc. for myself when I was single. Those things still need done now and whoever has the time to do them does them. This. I’d been doing these things the whole time I was single, and I didn’t suddenly lose the ability to do them when my wife and I got married. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/31 "2012-10-16T19:32:34Z")
I’m in kind of a weird situation. I’m a quite modern man who is not humbled by doing chores around the house, but I married a traditional woman who due to health reasons is pretty much a full time home maker, and has a fair amount of her self esteem tied to this work, and I don’t want to get in her way. As a result I ended up with the life style of a 50’s sitcom but not the attitudes. We’ve actually had fights over who gets to load the dish washer. There is also the fact that she is better at laundry and cleaning than I am. My tasks are: Bringing home the bacon about half of the yard work all fix-it stuff that I have competence to do finances/bills Grocery shopping Cooking dinner Her tasks: Everything else. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/32 "2012-10-16T20:06:16Z")
We always make an effort to split 50/50 Him: Garbage (daily) Laundry (weekly) Bathtub (weekly) Groceries (weekly) Cooks on days I work in the city (3 hour daily commute.) Me: Clean kitchen (weekly) Clean rest of bathroom (weekly) Sweep and mop floors (weekly) Take care of cat (daily) Cook on days when I work from home Joint: Budget/Accounting (every two weeks) Dishes and kitchen during week days Whoever gets up last makes the bed Take turns doing taxes every other year (2012 will be my turn) As for our working hours, I work full time, 2 days from home and 3x a week commute 3 hours a day. He is a full time Ph.D. student who receives a small stipend. And for the record, it was him who had to domesticate me. ---
**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/33 "2012-10-16T20:28:34Z")
My husband doesn’t cook because he’s not interested, he’s no good at it, and things are just easier if I take care of meals, but he does dishes, scrubs the bathrooms, sorts the laundry (I prefer to handle the actual washing) and he’d even dust if we were dusting folk. 😃 Truth be told, he’s more obsessed with a tidy house than I am. ---
**Author:** ![perfectparanoia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@perfectparanoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/perfectparanoia)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/34 "2012-10-16T20:58:02Z")
You need an ‘other,’ dammit! He is mostly domesticated BUT while I don’t do everything, I am responsible for everything. I have to nag to get most things done which often leads to me just doing things myself.\* This also leads to biweekly arguments about it. Ten years and we haven’t cracked this nut. We’re probably never going to. \*Before you say that this is a ploy so he doesn’t have to do things, he really is just THAT disorganized and inobservant. You know when you walk in the house and think, ‘Eww, what’s that smell?’ and then deal with it. He didn’t smell it. Until I mention it. Then he has no problem cleaning the kitty litter/taking out the garbage/finding the gift our children left under the couch cushion. ---
**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/35 "2012-10-16T23:09:50Z")
I wonder what kind of reaction a thread titled “Fully domesticated women-what do you think of 'em?” would garner ? Not as civil as this one, that’s for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/36 "2012-10-17T00:13:34Z")
I do about 90% of the cooking and washing dishes. Most outdoors stuff is mine as well - cutting grass, weeding, trimming trees etc. Looking after the cars is my job too. Laundry and house-cleaning is probably a 70-30 split with my wife doing the bigger share, mainly as she is home with our small kids at the moment & I’m working. She is far better at budgeting and handling bill payments. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/37 "2012-10-17T00:23:12Z")
> [@Ibanez](#): > > I wonder what kind of reaction a thread titled “Fully domesticated women-what do you think of 'em?” would garner ? > > Not as civil as this one, that’s for sure. No. Men get to have the shit beat out of them. Listen to most radio commercials, or TV commercials and you’ll hear that men are dolts. Men are clueless idiots who are upstaged by wives and small kids. I suppose marketing folks think women make most purchasing decisions, and statistically that may be true, but men are idiots and have the intellect of 10 year old boys. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/38 "2012-10-17T00:49:06Z")
My husband quit his job when the baby was born, and right now he probably does about 85% of everything domestic + childcare. The only major tasks that are mine are laundry and bill paying (though he does the budget overall). I also take the garbage out. We both shop. It’s radically different than our pre-kid life: we had more even split then, but we also had really different standards–pre-baby we lived like college kids, now we try to be more respectable. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/39 "2012-10-17T01:10:22Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > No. Men get to have the shit beat out of them. Listen to most radio commercials, or TV commercials and you’ll hear that men are dolts. Men are clueless idiots who are upstaged by wives and small kids. > > I suppose marketing folks think women make most purchasing decisions, and statistically that may be true, but men are idiots and have the intellect of 10 year old boys. Or you could listen to a man on this message board, and learn that men are women. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897/40 "2012-10-17T01:15:52Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Or you could listen to a man on this message board, and learn that men are women. And they drink Champagne and it tastes just like cherry cola? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-domesticated-men-what-do-you-think-of-em/637897.md?page=3)