# Fully vaxed adults with a toddler... guidelines? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [May 10, 2021, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-vaxed-adults-with-a-toddler-guidelines/941791 "2021-05-10T23:25:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2021, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-vaxed-adults-with-a-toddler-guidelines/941791/1 "2021-05-10T23:25:20Z")
My wife and I will, in a couple of weeks, be fully vaxed (Moderna, if it matters). We have a 2.25-year-old daughter who is, of course, so far unvaxxed. Anyone have any idea what the guidelines are for what we should and should not do, what we should and should not expose her to, etc? We definitely want to (for instance) take her on her first train ride. Maybe go to the zoo, when the zoos open. (We’re in the SF bay area, in case that matters). thanks! ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2021, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-vaxed-adults-with-a-toddler-guidelines/941791/2 "2021-05-10T23:44:47Z")
Investigate the CDC website for specifics. Off the top of my head, if I were you, I would not spend time indoors with unmasked people she does not live with, unless you are sure of their vaccinated status (like family members you can trust). Outdoor activities like a zoo, sure, just keep social distance. If the train is enclosed (my local children’s zoo’s train is open air), I would wait until after she can be vaccinated. If you have to wait for the experience til next summer when she is 3.25 years, it will still be special and she might remember it better anyway. Right now, anything you do will be for you, not her, memories and experience-wise. Model delayed gratification for her. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-vaxed-adults-with-a-toddler-guidelines/941791/3 "2021-05-11T00:23:55Z")
Please don’t get complacent. Covid is still a serious threat and the newer strains are highly communicable. You both being fully immunized will help, but there is still a lot of Covid out there. Recently a child traveling with their fully immunized parents to Hawaii became ill upon arrival and died from Covid. Every child, of course, won’t contract Covid or die, but your protection will only go so far. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-vaxed-adults-with-a-toddler-guidelines/941791/4 "2021-05-11T20:50:23Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Recently a child traveling with their fully immunized parents to Hawaii became ill upon arrival and died from Covid. Every child, of course, won’t contract Covid or die, but your protection will only go so far. I’m in the same boat as the OP, and as I understand, COVID is a lesser risk to toddlers than the flu. So far as the toddler’s health is concerned (\*), you’d be irrational to avoid activities today because of COVID if you’d happily have gone through with them a couple of years ago (ignoring the difference in the child’s age, that is.) Is this wrong? (\*) Of course, with COVID, you also have to be concerned about your toddler spreading it to other adults, which is not well-understood. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-vaxed-adults-with-a-toddler-guidelines/941791/5 "2021-05-12T01:06:07Z")
[This article on 538](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-to-make-sure-your-kid-isnt-a-superspreader/) had a nice break down on the research with regards to kid’s interaction after their adults are fully vaccinated. Basically it says that we should expect to see the prevelance in the kid’s population to increase and to start seeing more serious cases in kid’s particularly as adults treat the kids like they are fully vaccinated. Let them play outside without masks but try to enforce social distance and masking indoors with other kids and still avoid unvaccinated adults. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fully-vaxed-adults-with-a-toddler-guidelines/941791/6 "2021-05-12T18:44:00Z")
I found that article a little underwhelming. The relevant portion is this: > [@538](#): > > **Helen Chu:** So what we know about the B.117 variant is that it is currently overtaking the United States. It is becoming the dominant variant that we are seeing in multiple states around the U.S. We also know that it is both more infectious and more severe. > > **Maggie Koerth:** And that’s true in kids, as well. But without quantifying that, I have no idea how that risk to the kid compares to, again, the flu. Or to any other activity I’m going to take with the kid that has some small risk to (roadtrip, camping, etc…)