# Fundamentalist Muslim Message Board **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 2, 2002, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074 "2002-08-02T20:16:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/41 "2002-08-06T00:10:41Z")
Thankyou **rand 100** and **Coldfire** > [@](#): > > _reprise_ > If someone wants to risk killing the hamster by running a search, now would be a good time to bump Muslim Guy’s “Ask the Muslim Guy” threads. I responded > [@](#): > > There’s Efrem as well. I already looked for him on their search engine. “There’s Efrem as well” was meant to convey that we, the SDMB have you as well as a spokesperson for the world of Islam which you’ve got to admit is pretty scary from the window we have on that message board. I as well as other’s I think would be interested in your comments on them. I registered and looked for you on that board, not really expecting to find you, but if I was going to find a sane voice in there, I was sure as hell going to report that our\*\* Efrem\*\* was fighting the good fight. Not that I expect that of you, because quite frankly, I myself don’t have the guts to say what I think in there. Okay? English is your second language isn’t it ? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/42 "2002-08-06T00:14:11Z")
Oh, and to be absolutely clear, I didn’t find you there. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/43 "2002-08-06T00:25:42Z")
English is _your_ second language too, grienspace. 😉 Right? Or am I mistaken? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/44 "2002-08-06T00:45:18Z")
Well yes **Coldfire** , but I couldn’t possibly any longer carry on a conversation let alone post in my first language. I can understand Dutch speech spoken at a moderate pace but with some difficulty which is why I have some empathy for **Efrem** You **Coldfire** are perfectly bilingual judging from your posting that you will never be able to use the second language excuse 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/45 "2002-08-06T02:19:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sailor \* > \*\*\>\> Nothing like telling the FBI who you are, and how extreme your viewpoints are. > > Actually that board is set up and run by the FBI to lure the extremists. 😉 \*\* Maybe our Humble Administrators could talk to the FBI about getting a larger, faster server to host the **SDMB**. The pages on that board loaded lightning fast. All kidding aside, I found that message board to be absolutely disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/46 "2002-08-06T03:17:31Z")
I’d say the chances are _very_ high that it’s ant-bait set up by the FBI, and some of the posts seem to be trolling for incriminating statements-- like [this one](http://www.clearguidance.com/showthread.php?threadid=7927) from SoulJah: > [@](#): > > anyone here carries weapons for self-defense… or “knows someone who carries weapon(s) for self-defense” Gotta wonder about a supposedly religious message board that features _armed_ smilies. WTF? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/47 "2002-08-06T08:10:54Z")
I have registered over there (mainly because I wanted to politely and moderately respond to a couple of the threads about Christiantiy), but I’m not confident they’re going to let me in: > [@](#): > > Your account has been activated but you are currently in the moderation queue to be added to the forum. ---
**Author:** ![Efrem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@Efrem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Efrem)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/48 "2002-08-06T11:14:11Z")
> [@](#): > > _ **rand 100** _ > Efrem, I think grienspace was counting you among the open-minded Muslims at this message board, in response to reprise’s suggestion about Muslim Guy’s posts. And that he did a search for you on the idiot board, the implication being that he didn’t find you there. > [@](#): > > _ **Coldfire** _ > That would be my guess too, efrem. No harm intended, probably. > [@](#): > > _ **grienspace** _ > “There’s Efrem as well” was meant to convey that we, the SDMB have you as well as a spokesperson for the world of Islam which you’ve got to admit is pretty scary from the window we have on that message board. I as well as other’s I think would be interested in your comments on them. > > I registered and looked for you on that board, not really expecting to find you, but if I was going to find a sane voice in there, I was sure as hell going to report that our Efrem was fighting the good fight. Not that I expect that of you, because quite frankly, I myself don’t have the guts to say what I think in there. > > Okay? English is your second language isn’t it ? :smack: Well… don’t I feel like the BIGGEST ass in the entire world right about now. :o Sorry grienspace ---
**Author:** ![Space\_Vampire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Space\_Vampire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Space_Vampire)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/49 "2002-08-06T12:04:08Z")
If you guys are really concerned about people knowing where the sudden attention is coming from, can I suggest copy/paste instead of following that link as they can probably check referrers? I’ve seen this before, one board is laughing at another, but the admin figures out where the hits are coming from and things get nasty. ---
**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/50 "2002-08-06T12:49:01Z")
I’ve just done a whois search on the domain name and then googled the registrant. It’s kinda interesting to find out that they also run [taliban-news.com](http://taliban-news.com). Also, it looks like the owner’s address (in New York, BTW) that whois turned up doesn’t exist - At least Yahoo maps couldn’t find it. ---
**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/51 "2002-08-06T14:59:13Z")
“Talking about Jihaad is not sufficient; You have to be in the battlefield in order to spread Islaam…” Huh. Very interesting- a religion entirely spread through killing your potential converts? That doesn’t sound effective. What a bunch of screwed-up wackjobs they are on that site. ---
**Author:** ![Truth\_Seeker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Truth\_Seeker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truth_Seeker)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/52 "2002-08-06T16:11:41Z")
I think **Larry** is probably correct. In any event, I’m sure the site is being monitored and that any number of the registrants are agents even if it wasn’t set up by the government. I wonder if we’re going to return to the bad old days of the 60’s and 70’s. My understanding is that at one point, more than half of the active membership of the KKK was made up of FBI agents or informants. This created a pretty silly situation. Public/Congress: “Look at how big and dangerous the KKK is! Do something!” \ Public/Congress: “Aaack! The KKK is still growing! Help!” etc., etc. It’d be both understandable and a shame if we had the same situation here. “Look at those violent nutjobs! Islam is a dangerous religion! Why isn’t the FBI doing something about this?” What if the FBI _is_ doing something? To wit, pretending to be a bunch of violent nutjobs in order to draw other violent nutjobs out of the wordwork? ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/53 "2002-08-06T23:01:43Z")
Gobear, do you actually have to ask if this is Mainstream Islamic thought? Did you actually READ anything on that board, or are you just looking for evidence of the “BIG BAD ISLAM” to continue your little vendetta? ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2002, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/54 "2002-08-07T00:19:45Z")
> [@](#): > > Gobear, do you actually have to ask if this is Mainstream Islamic thought? Did you actually READ anything on that board, or are you just looking for evidence of the “BIG BAD ISLAM” to continue your little vendetta? Actually, **Twisty** , I was asking a question. I don;t know what vendetta you’re talking about. I would like someone more knowledgeable than I to tell me these guys are at the very extreme end of the bell curve. Given what’s going on in the MidEast these days, I don’t think that the question is inappropriate. And, yeah, I read the board–it’s populated by hate-filled relgious bigots. What’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2002, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/55 "2002-08-07T00:37:55Z")
I would be really interested to hear how the Muslims we have here at the SDMB rate that site. ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2002, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/56 "2002-08-07T01:32:00Z")
> [@](#): > > lol…sis, i only know how to use airgun…and that OLLLDD big guns lol…useless > > well the airgun is kinda nice…its easy too … i like that…but i wanna know how to use AK 47 lol… iv heard some men even fall down when they shoot by Ak 47 lol… This kid can’t be trusted with a water gun. I’m pretty sure the “by” in the last sentence was a mistake, or not. ---
**Author:** ![Hosayf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/2acd7d/32.png) [@Hosayf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hosayf)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2002, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/57 "2002-08-07T02:57:48Z")
Has anyone noticed how they show member status under the names? It says under soem of them things like. “ready for war”, and “jihadi”. That’s one more frightening thing about that board. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2002, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/58 "2002-08-07T04:27:50Z")
You gotta wonder about the FBI when a bunch of, well, _us_ can figure out their little plot. Since this is obviously not just a board of FBI spooks talking to each other (unless the FBI is completely freaking moronic), _some people are falling for it_. Moronic little bigots… heh. Gives me hope for the future. "The good news, gentlemen, is that our enemies are complete and utter idiots, as this message board proves … " ---
**Author:** ![Gozu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gozu/32/6615_2.png) [@Gozu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2002, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/59 "2002-08-07T09:48:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mangetout \* > \*\*I would be really interested to hear how the Muslims we have here at the SDMB rate that site. \*\* I rate it revolting because of the views it professes and it’s interpretation of Islam, moronic because most of the conversations in it are just…well…moronic, and sad because many of the members are young teenagers which might grow into stupid, intolerant and maybe dangerous fanatics ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2002, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074/60 "2002-08-07T10:30:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\* > Actually, **Twisty** , I was asking a question. I don;t know what vendetta you’re talking about. I would like someone more knowledgeable than I to tell me these guys are at the very extreme end of the bell curve. Given what’s going on in the MidEast these days, I don’t think that the question is inappropriate. > And, yeah, I read the board–it’s populated by hate-filled relgious bigots. What’s your point? \*\* If you know its filled by hate filled religious bigots, why are you asking if this is mainstream muslim opinion? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundamentalist-muslim-message-board/122074.md?page=4)