# Fundie Baby Voice

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 11, 2024, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700 "2024-03-11T12:17:36Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/21 "2024-03-11T16:03:32Z")

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> [@Briny\_Deep](#):
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> Are you certain it’s the same TikTok video by Jess Piper?

It appears to be the same video, but for some reason it lacks the cutaways to Johnson and Duggar. I didn’t see those until I clicked on your link – the one I posted doesn’t cut away to the examples. But the rest of it appears to be the same.

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/22 "2024-03-11T16:05:33Z")

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I’ve known women who used this voice, or something like it. They weren’t all fundamentalists. In fact, one who I dated was Jewish. It just seemed to be a sign of passive manipulation. She would switch into it when she wanted me to do something.

That clip of Katie Britt’s two voices was hilarious. Her second, “disaster” voice reminds me of [Betsy Kettleman on _Better Call Saul_](https://youtu.be/Wk6KaFtdPOI?t=196)

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/23 "2024-03-11T16:14:52Z")

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> [@Briny\_Deep](#):
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> if they have naturally strong personalities they’re able to turn it on and off like a switch.

I’ve heard that switch, in more than one person. I find it unnerving. Again, they weren’t all fundamentalists.

And again, women are more likely to hear the switch than men are; because some (not all) women who do this won’t use the natural voice at all around men.

I don’t know whether it’s always a result of abuse, especially in women who can switch it on and off; but I wouldn’t be surprised if it sometimes is.

It appears Britt can switch it off.

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/24 "2024-03-11T16:21:03Z")

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I’m glad someone has put a name to it. It’s an annoying, grating intonation. I’m sure that for a lot of women (like Kristen Chenoweth), it’s their normal speaking voice, but I was completely unaware that this was a part of the fundie bullshit for many. That they put up with this is astonishing to me.

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/25 "2024-03-11T16:33:56Z")

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Carol Channing and Georgia Engle had that voice going, too. Ok in moderation.

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/26 "2024-03-11T16:53:01Z")

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And for some reason it was widely in vogue in the UK in the early 1970s. If you’ve seen the Jon Pertwee episodes of “Doctor Who” with Katy Manning as Jo Grant, that’s an example.

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/27 "2024-03-11T18:05:20Z")

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I remember some kind of 700 Club presentation video that used that voice for a fetus that was about to be aborted. “I’m so happy in mommy’s womb and oh! What’s that? What are those metal things? Help! Help!” or some similar sort of drivel.

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/28 "2024-03-11T19:14:16Z")

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Relevant Political Cartoon (to the Britt rebuttal, although it doesn’t address the “Fundie Baby Voice”)

> **[Cartoon: Tales from the Britt](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/3/11/2228845/-Cartoon-Tales-from-the-Britt)**
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> A cartoon by Clay Bennett.

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/29 "2024-03-11T19:50:46Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> I’ve only seen clips of the Katie Britt response, but I’ll tell you what her performance reminded _me_ of.

I thought of Palpatine’s intonations, especially the faux sadness at he end of this clip.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/4V2YYKOAXcc/maxresdefault.jpg "Star Wars: Return of the Jedi - Luke meets The Emperor") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V2YYKOAXcc)

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/30 "2024-03-11T20:21:06Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> I remember some kind of 700 Club presentation video that used that voice for a fetus that was about to be aborted. “I’m so happy in mommy’s womb and oh! What’s that? What are those metal things? Help! Help!” or some similar sort of drivel.

(Needs more Jaws music)

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/31 "2024-03-11T20:46:11Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/_Ge4_stUpqs/maxresdefault.jpg ""RETURN OF THE JEDI: A Bad Lip Reading"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ge4_stUpqs)

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/32 "2024-03-11T20:49:17Z")

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(Skip to 5:13 in the above video)

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/33 "2024-03-11T20:59:20Z")

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I truly don’t know how the GOP plans to broaden their support beyond the MAGAs, or what kind of Electoral College game they may be playing, but …

I think everything about Katie Britt’s reply was choreographed and intentional. I think they have chosen their audience and they are repeatedly doubling down _on_ that audience.

We may not understand the game they’re playing well enough to judge its success or failure.

Please allow me to quote (NYT columnist) David Brooks who puts it far better than I would:

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> There are a lot of parts of the country where you’re supposed to show how smart you are, but, most of the country, you don’t do that. You show you have good feelings, you’re concerned about your family, you’re equal, and you’re like, just nobody’s better than me, nobody’s — I’m no better than anybody else.
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> And I thought she exemplified a style of communication that may not be popular in the media world, but is popular in most of the country, and most people will look at her and say, yes, maybe she overacted a little, but she was, I thought, a compassionate, smart, effective person.

Remember that the **[Flesch-Kincaid](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flesch%E2%80%93Kincaid_readability_tests)** evaluation of Trump’s first 30,000 words as POTUS put **[his vocabulary](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-fire-and-fury-smart-genius-obama-774169)** at about a 4th Grade level.

Which works exceedingly well with his audience, few of whom are prolific contributors – say – here (on the SDMB).

Britt’s performance: IMHO, less stupid, more evil. Hopefully, not terribly effective.

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/34 "2024-03-11T23:22:18Z")

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There may well be a lot of voters who enjoy hearing nasty partisan jibes delivered in a cutesy-baby voice with hammed-up facial expressions.

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/35 "2024-03-11T23:31:21Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Remember that the **[Flesch-Kincaid](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flesch%E2%80%93Kincaid_readability_tests)** evaluation of _Trump’s first 30,000 words as POTUS put **[his vocabulary](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-fire-and-fury-smart-genius-obama-774169)** at about a 4th Grade level._
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> _Which works exceedingly well with his audience._

I was a writer for a local daily newspaper in the late 1980s. We were instructed to write at a 4th grade reading level, using simple declarative sentences. It’s probably been lowered since then.

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/36 "2024-03-11T23:38:23Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I’m sure that for a lot of women (like Kristen Chenoweth), it’s their normal speaking voice,

Kristen Chenoweth! Thank you I knew I heard that kind of voice before.

While listening to Britt’s response I knew what she was doing but had no idea it was like a whole thing in conservative fundy circles. I guess that’s my new knowledge for the day.

Between this and the whole ‘an illegal’ thing it really does go to show how culturally separate liberals and conservatives have become in this country I think. The last week or so I’ve learned a whole bunch of stuff about the conservative mindset that I suspected or most likely knew but wasn’t able to express clearly.

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/37 "2024-03-12T13:05:44Z")

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Here’s Jon Stewart’s take on Britt (and lots of other stuff) from last night’s **Daily Show**

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> [Jon Stewart Taunts Sen. Katie Britt With 1 Burning Question About Biden Speech | HuffPost Entertainment](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jon-stewart-katie-britt_n_65efed36e4b032e17a834b60)

“Who says ‘steeped in the blood of patriots’ while smiling?”

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/38 "2024-03-12T13:33:48Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> > [@Chefguy](#):
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> > I’m sure that for a lot of women (like Kristen Chenoweth), it’s their normal speaking voice,
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> Kristen Chenoweth! Thank you I knew I heard that kind of voice before.

Melanie Griffith has a case of it too.

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-baby-voice/998700/39 "2024-03-12T14:27:15Z")

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> Melanie Griffith has a case of it too.

With her I think it’s deliberate. Can’t stand the woman.

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For a few women it is their natural speaking voice; at least the high pitch, though probably not the extra breathiness (at least, unless they’re actually short of breath). I was at a village board meeting this morning and at one point one of their personnel spoke up from behind me; I thought for a moment that a child had spoken. When I turned around the speaker was of course a fully adult woman, and she was showing none of the mannerisms that usually go with the deliberate Baby Voice; I’m pretty sure it was just her natural voice.

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