# Fundie Porn run amuck! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 18, 2003, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591 "2003-06-18T00:56:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/1 "2003-06-18T00:56:55Z")
[http://www.thedailytimes.com/sited/story/html/134372](http://www.thedailytimes.com/sited/story/html/134372) It seems a church decided to do a little play about jackbooted thugs rounding up all the Christians… but they didn’t tell the Christians that it was just a play. Now they’re being sued for $2 million, because a young woman was a) terrorized and b) brutalized in the process. ---
**Author:** ![MrTuffPaws](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@MrTuffPaws](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrTuffPaws)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/2 "2003-06-18T01:13:13Z")
Har har har har. Are you sure the woman suing is not really a Scientologist? ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/3 "2003-06-18T01:27:55Z")
Why would she be a Scientologist? ---
**Author:** ![Mearl\_Dox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@Mearl\_Dox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mearl_Dox)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/4 "2003-06-18T01:29:16Z")
Heck, I’d sue. ---
**Author:** ![FisherQueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@FisherQueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FisherQueen)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/5 "2003-06-18T01:52:19Z")
I have no trouble imagining the church I used to go to arranging such an event and thinking it was a good idea. But I don’t go to that church any more. I hope the girl wins. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/6 "2003-06-18T02:01:44Z")
You let Baptists get their hands on Velcro handcuffs, and nothing good can come of it. ---
**Author:** ![Nanoda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Nanoda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanoda)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/7 "2003-06-18T02:16:20Z")
> [@](#): > > […][T]he event referred to in the suit was designed to help young people in the church learn more about and better understand the persecution of Christians in other parts of the world. Or the stupidity of those there. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/8 "2003-06-18T02:33:27Z")
From the article: > [@](#): > > The church pastor said an attorney will respond to all the allegations in the suit. He said the only complaint he has heard about the event has come from the `Doe family'' while other participants described it as `pretty powerful and very positive’’ for the young people as well as for the adults who supervised the activity. Being manhandled, blindfolded, handcuffed, and driven to an undisclosed location by individuals wearing gas masks is a “positive activity”? I think if I was living in that parish I wouldn’t advertise my birthday, just in case the congregation decided to do something “positive” to help me celebrate. You know, like castrating me or something. ---
**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/9 "2003-06-18T02:43:17Z")
Now when I went to church camp as a youth, we played a similar game called “Romans and Christians” but it was not NEARLY this violent. I hope she wins, too. IDBB ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/10 "2003-06-18T02:48:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by I\_Dig\_Bad\_Boys \* > **Now when I went to church camp as a youth, we played a similar game called “Romans and Christians” but it was not NEARLY this violent.** Sounds kinda kinky.😉 _Come here you little pagan. Let me Bapistize you._ ---
**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/11 "2003-06-18T03:31:29Z")
ROTFLMFAO, **Wolfian**. No…the counselors would seperate the youths into groups with one counselor as the leader of each group. The rest of the counselors would disperse to various parts of the camp and would act as either a Roman (who would send you to jail) or a Secret Christian (who would give you directions to the secret worship site somewhere on property…usually in the woods). IDBB ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/12 "2003-06-18T04:27:09Z")
What I utterly fail to understand is why Jesus wasted His time talking about love, forgiveness, and the need for reconciliation with God when He really ought to have been weaving elaborately paranoid persecution fantasies. The idiots in GD at the moment and now this–yep, Christianity sure has the answers to life’s most urgent questions. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/13 "2003-06-18T04:34:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*What I utterly fail to understand is why Jesus wasted His time talking about love, forgiveness, and the need for reconciliation with God when He really ought to have been weaving elaborately paranoid persecution fantasies. > > The idiots in GD at the moment and now this–yep, Christianity sure has the answers to life’s most urgent questions. \*\* AMEN! ☹ ☹ ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/14 "2003-06-18T06:36:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Orbifold \* > \*\* Being manhandled, blindfolded, handcuffed, and driven to an undisclosed location by individuals wearing gas masks is a “positive activity”? > > \*\* Yeah! Sounds a lot like terrorizing and kidnapping to me. ---
**Author:** ![Cerri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3bc359/32.png) [@Cerri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerri)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/15 "2003-06-18T06:40:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*What I utterly fail to understand is why Jesus wasted His time talking about love, forgiveness, and the need for reconciliation with God when He really ought to have been weaving elaborately paranoid persecution fantasies. > > The idiots in GD at the moment and now this–yep, Christianity sure has the answers to life’s most urgent questions. \*\* > > \*Originally posted by Polycarp \* > \*\*AMEN! ☹ ☹ ☹ \*\* Can I get a halleluyah? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/16 "2003-06-18T06:55:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cerri \* > \*\*Can I get a halleluyah? 😃 \*\* Sure. They’re on sale at the corner market. A dozen for $3.50. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/17 "2003-06-18T07:18:49Z")
YOU’RE BUYING HALLELUYAHS? A DOZEN LASHES WITH CAT-O-NINE TAILS, YOU PERVERT!!! :ROLLEYES: Poly, you’re the Xan I most respect( my parents are a very close second ), and I am glad you have found comfort and hope in the Xan religion, but to me the whole things sems so gol-danged out of wack and illlogical that if I were seeking God, I wouldn’t look there. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/18 "2003-06-18T12:56:51Z")
Christianity itself isn’t the problem here. Just the people at that particular church. ---
**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/19 "2003-06-18T13:50:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*What I utterly fail to understand is why Jesus wasted His time talking about love, forgiveness, and the need for reconciliation with God when He really ought to have been weaving elaborately paranoid persecution fantasies. > > The idiots in GD at the moment and now this–yep, Christianity sure has the answers to life’s most urgent questions. \*\* I _am_ Christian and I shudder at people like this. Some of us _do_ believe in the love and forgiveness shtick above all else. I have a hard time believing that God wants us to hate anyone. Ava ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2003, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591/20 "2003-06-18T15:20:50Z")
I know there are nice Christians, but right now I have had a bellyful of assholes like **Reactor** and **His4Ever** telling me how sinful and horrible I am merely because I am different. I am growing fatigued at constantly having to defend myself. I find that the Christians’ behavior in the linked article is unintentionally telling about their lack of faith. > [@](#): > > The suit alleges the group was told there would be `one chance to deny Christ, or you will be killed.'' When Janie Doe refused to deny Christ, the suit says there was the sound of a gunshot and she was soaked with water, then she began `screaming and crying’’ before being told to go inside the residence of another church member. “One chance to deny Christ or you will be killed”–how is that any kind of threat to one who beleives in eternal life? C’mon, if you believe that you have received salvation through the Atonement and Resurrection, why would you fear being killed? It’s just a momentary sting before you enter Paradise, so what’s the big deal. In the Left Behind series, the authors have scenes where the Christians are in a dither about taking the Mark of the Beast or being guillotined. Hey, if I believed in that crap, I’d go smiling to the guillotine, testifying about the mercy of Jesus all the way. That the Christians in the new story see death as such a terrible thing only shows me that they don’t believe their own propaganda. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fundie-porn-run-amuck/182591.md?page=2)