# Futurama 7-29... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 30, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541 "2010-07-30T02:31:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/21 "2010-07-30T21:37:03Z")
> [@Lethal\_Babydoll](#): > > I watched in wonder because, no lie, Wednesday night I finished reading **[[COLOR=“Red”]Joe Haldeman’s “The Accidental Time Machine.”[/COLOR]](http://www.amazon.com/Accidental-Time-Machine-Joe-Haldeman/dp/0441016162/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1280525031&sr=8-1)** > > Nearly th exact same plot.Guy builds a time machine, but by accident, natch, and keeps going into the future hoping to find someone who knows how to make a backward traveling machine. > > Only he finally finds someone, doesn’t have to do the repeat. > > but i got such a kick out of the 2 being so close, and so closely experienced. Sounds interesting. Would you recommend it? If you do I’ll pick it up. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2010, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/22 "2010-07-31T06:28:28Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > Sounds interesting. Would you recommend it? If you do I’ll pick it up. I’ve read it too, and I recommend it. Nothing mind blowing, but an enjoyable quick read. ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2010, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/23 "2010-08-01T01:50:46Z")
Anyone know the language code and can decipher the Dummies book Bender threw on the campfire? ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2010, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/24 "2010-08-01T02:03:41Z")
> [@Patch](#): > > Anyone know the language code and can decipher the Dummies book Bender threw on the campfire? “Backwards Time Travel Made Easy” ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2010, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/25 "2010-08-01T02:16:02Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > > [@Patch](#): > > > > Anyone know the language code and can decipher the Dummies book Bender threw on the campfire? > > “Backwards Time Travel Made Easy” Hee! =^\_^= ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2010, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/26 "2010-08-01T06:51:44Z")
On a final question, the scene as the time machine recedes into the distance at the end of the universe, the scene and the music reminds me of some other movie. Does it ring any bells with anyone else? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/27 "2010-08-02T00:43:00Z")
Heh. I loved how cheerfully oblivious Fry was to the fact that “his” original Leela, plus the one in the second universe, presumably grew old and died missing him. Plus, of course, he killed himself. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/28 "2010-08-02T04:09:15Z")
I hesitate to show off my nerd creds, but… In _The Cryonic Woman_, Fry unfreezes that guy who wanted to go so far forward in time that time starts over and he could meet Shakespeare, because he thought time was cyclical. To which Fry replied, “Nope! Linear!” Well, which one is it?!?!? :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/29 "2010-08-02T04:32:20Z")
Good catch, but that can easily be chalked up to an error by Fry and the scientists of the time. Fry knows nothing about anything. _Farnsworth_ was shocked that the universe started up again, so presumably few people knew or believed there would be another Big Bang after the universe ended. And in any event the frozen guy was nowhere close to meeting Shakespeare. He would have needed to wait about a quindecillion years (I think the last proton decays at 10^48 years) for the universe to end and another Big Bang to happen. From there it’s another 13 billion years until Shakespeare walks the earth. His cryogenic tube would have been destroyed long before he got there one way or another. Or he could’ve just gone to the head museum. Whichever. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/30 "2010-08-02T05:13:01Z")
As long as we’re talking about _Futurama_ and logic in the same sentence, have they ever explained how the head museum works? Okay, I can accept in theory that current celebrities from our era might end up there. But how did a historical celebrity like George Washington get his head preserved to be put in a jar? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/31 "2010-08-02T05:18:01Z")
They’ve never explained it onscreen. In the cases where Ron Popeil’s method couldn’t save the heads of the actual celebrities, I assumed they cloned them from DNA samples or used computers to extrapolate their personalities from their works, similar to the way Fry and Leela use surveillance footage to reconstruct each other’s personalities in Rebirth, or the way Lucy Liu’s personality is derived from her movies in I Dated a Robot. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/32 "2010-08-03T15:37:32Z")
I always assumed there was some sort of alien society that was secretly preserving who they thought were important (or could compensate them somehow.) But cloning would work, as seen in Jurassic Bark. Copying has only been shown to work on robots, and with video footage. Still, you wonder why they’d only have heads. ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/33 "2010-08-03T16:38:29Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > Also it makes no difference to history if you assassinate Hitler or Eleanor Roosevelt. Ho ho ho… that may be possibly wrong\*. The first time round while they speed through Futurama’s earlier events on their way to the correct time you’ll note that instead of Fry being attached to Yeevo addressing the group (Beast of a Billion Backs) it is Farnsworth. Possible change in the timeline? \*At least that is what I thought I caught that… I didn’t record it so if anyone can verify that for me that would be great. Even greater if I am correct. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/34 "2010-08-03T16:42:12Z")
(That’s my quote, not **NDP** ’s.) That would be a very interesting twist. I do have the episode on DVR and I’ll see if I can pause it at that moment. Eventually everybody gets hooked up to Yivo, but maybe they have Farnsworth as the ‘Pope’ figure? That’d be funny. And the universe did get 10 feet lower somehow. ---
**Author:** ![Lethal\_Babydoll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3be4f8/32.png) [@Lethal\_Babydoll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lethal_Babydoll)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/35 "2010-08-03T16:54:03Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > > [@Lethal\_Babydoll](#): > > > > I watched in wonder because, no lie, Wednesday night I finished reading **[[COLOR=“Red”]Joe Haldeman’s “The Accidental Time Machine.”[/COLOR]](http://www.amazon.com/Accidental-Time-Machine-Joe-Haldeman/dp/0441016162/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1280525031&sr=8-1)** > > > > Nearly th exact same plot.Guy builds a time machine, but by accident, natch, and keeps going into the future hoping to find someone who knows how to make a backward traveling machine. > > > > Only he finally finds someone, doesn’t have to do the repeat. > > > > but i got such a kick out of the 2 being so close, and so closely experienced. > > Sounds interesting. Would you recommend it? If you do I’ll pick it up. Not especially. there are much better time travel books and better haldeman books ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/36 "2010-08-03T16:55:56Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > (That’s my quote, not **NDP** ’s.) That would be a very interesting twist. I do have the episode on DVR and I’ll see if I can pause it at that moment. Eventually everybody gets hooked up to Yivo, but maybe they have Farnsworth as the ‘Pope’ figure? That’d be funny. And the universe did get 10 feet lower somehow. Sorry, That was a slip in the coding I edited out the wrong quote= line. The only way to be sure is if Farnsworth is attached and Fry is standing there listening with the group (impossible in the normal timeline). After Hitler was Killed I thought, there is no way history wouldn’t be changed by that. When the Planet Express scene I mentioned came up, it seemed to linger longer than the other flash forwards, so I noted it. Knowing the creators, that meant there was something to look for. I could swear I saw a red jacket in the crowd. I could be wrong… ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/37 "2010-08-03T17:51:33Z")
> [@Lethal\_Babydoll](#): > > > [@RandMcnally](#): > > > > Sounds interesting. Would you recommend it? If you do I’ll pick it up. > > Not especially. there are much better time travel books and better haldeman books Agreed. Frankly, I think Haldeman’s “Forever War” and “Forever Peace” were brilliant, but that after these he churned out a great deal of good (but fairly unremarkable) novels. Once he stopped dealing with the Vietnam War and its aftermath, he lost a lot of his punch. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/38 "2010-08-03T18:33:30Z")
> [@kingpengvin](#): > > The first time round while they speed through Futurama’s earlier events on their way to the correct time you’ll note that instead of Fry being attached to Yeevo addressing the group (Beast of a Billion Backs) it is Farnsworth. Possible change in the timeline? No, that’s how it happened in the movie. Fry was busy in the tentacle temple, while the rest of the crew was trying to avoid the tentacle inside the Planet Express building. The Professor gets caught by the tentacle, though, and that scene that flashes by is when the rest of the crew finds out and he tries to get the tentacle to get them. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/39 "2010-08-04T01:56:15Z")
What, you don’t _have_ a tentacle? GET HER! Get her some LOVE! Great episode, nice touch with the cyclical universe, I was expecting Bender to flash them forward into the “Terminator-Verse” when he was at the controls for the go-around the Dumblocks gag was predictable though ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541/40 "2010-08-04T02:04:47Z")
> [@kingpengvin](#): > > > [@Marley23](#): > > > > (That’s my quote, not **NDP** ’s.) That would be a very interesting twist. I do have the episode on DVR and I’ll see if I can pause it at that moment. Eventually everybody gets hooked up to Yivo, but maybe they have Farnsworth as the ‘Pope’ figure? That’d be funny. And the universe did get 10 feet lower somehow. > > Sorry, That was a slip in the coding I edited out the wrong quote= line. > > The only way to be sure is if Farnsworth is attached and Fry is standing there listening with the group (impossible in the normal timeline). After Hitler was Killed I thought, there is no way history wouldn’t be changed by that. When the Planet Express scene I mentioned came up, it seemed to linger longer than the other flash forwards, so I noted it. Knowing the creators, that meant there was something to look for. I could swear I saw a red jacket in the crowd. > > I could be wrong… In the Yivo’ed Professor scene, Fry is not there, just Leela, Hemes, Amy, and some unknown person, balding brown hair, white t-shirt, blue jacket, olive drab pants, the next scene cuts to "The Killer App with Leela crashing the PE ship, but Hermes is sitting where Bender should have been, as Leela flies straight at Hermes, and Bender’s Twitcher vid of Leela crashing shows her flying straight towards him [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/futurama-7-29/548541.md?page=1)