# future hall of famers in NFL

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [October 4, 2009, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508 "2009-10-04T02:03:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Shig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shig)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/41 "2009-10-06T04:09:29Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Kickers over Jason Hanson?

Not quite sure what you’re asking here. Jason Hanson was a kicker. Please reword your question. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/42 "2009-10-06T08:39:36Z")

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Imho, the Steelers not mentioned as automatic HOF entires makes the Hal angry.

You won’t like it when The Hal gets angry.

😃

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**Author:** ![Shig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Shig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shig)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/43 "2009-10-06T12:13:52Z")

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> [@Superhal](#):
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> Imho, the Steelers not mentioned as automatic HOF entires makes the Hal angry.
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> You won’t like it when The Hal gets angry.
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> 😃

Huh? They don’t induct teams. 😕

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**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/44 "2009-10-06T13:46:30Z")

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If the Hall actually considered punters, I’d put in Jeff Feagles for his longevity and coffin-corner abilities.

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**Author:** ![Shig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Shig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shig)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/45 "2009-10-06T14:04:24Z")

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> [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](#):
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> If the Hall actually considered punters, I’d put in Jeff Feagles for his longevity and coffin-corner abilities.

Ray Guy was one of the 17 finalists last year, actually. Despite my hatred for the Raiders, I would love to see him inducted. Speaking of Raiders, I’d put Shane Lechler ahead of Feagles.

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**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/46 "2009-10-06T14:25:30Z")

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> [@Shig](#):
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> Ray Guy was one of the 17 finalists last year, actually. Despite my hatred for the Raiders, I would love to see him inducted. Speaking of Raiders, I’d put Shane Lechler ahead of Feagles.

Sure Ray Guy made the finalist list, but considering his reputation (although I remember a thread on here which said he was overrated) - if he can’t get in, it’s very doubtful ANY punter will make it.

If the Hall wasn’t biased against punters, both Lechler and Feagles would be going in.

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**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/47 "2009-10-06T14:30:12Z")

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> [@Shig](#):
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> Jim Plunkett is not in the HoF. He has two rings.

I knew I shouldn’t listen to everything I hear in a bar. :smack:

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**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/48 "2009-10-06T14:33:05Z")

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> [@furt](#):
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> How is this “inflation?” It was a great offense, and he was a key element. Were Jerry Rice’s numbers “inflated” because of the WCO, or Jim Kelly’s because of the K-Gun?

Relax. I was just saying that his numbers are high because of the offense he played in. However, I think that’s why he doesn’t “feel” like a HoF-er to me. I always thought of Bruce as “the man” for the Rams and Holt was the guy on the other side who happened to catch a lot of balls. Not saying he’s not good or not worthy of consideration, just saying that he doesn’t “seem” (to me) like a Hall of Famer.

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**Author:** ![Shig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Shig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shig)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/49 "2009-10-06T15:16:00Z")

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> [@CapnPitt](#):
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> I knew I shouldn’t listen to everything I hear in a bar. :smack:

Interesting you brought it up when you did though. I was looking at former QBs and numbers of Super Bowl wins like 15 minutes earlier. Plunkett wasn’t all that great, but it seems two rings gets you on the preliminary list regardless because he’s been on there for years. If my quick brainstorm is correct, there’s only two active QBs with at least two rings (Brady and Roethlisberger). Two others active with at least two Super Bowl appearances (Favre and Warner). Not sure why I brought that up. Guess I just never gave it any thought before.

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**Author:** ![Shig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Shig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shig)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/50 "2009-10-06T15:19:09Z")

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What do you all think: Tom Nalen? Especially you Bright… you seem to be the most knowledgeable/ opinionated poster in this thread.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/51 "2009-10-06T15:47:38Z")

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Yes on Nalen. Like Shields, look at the ridiculous success of the Broncos running game during his tenure, mostly with an assortment of unremarkable RBs. \*Someone \*from that line has to make it.

Also, isn’t it funny how quickly we forget? Towards the end of their careers Nalen and Seau were just casually mentioned as obvious Hall of Famers whenever they played. Now, just a few years later, not only do we forget to include them, but we have to ask about and debate whether they belong.  
Are there any other interior linemen (offense or defense) that we’re forgetting? How about LBs?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/52 "2009-10-06T15:55:14Z")

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Well, you’re half right. 😉

Honestly, I’ve never paid much attention to the Broncos, and I wasn’t really around for their Super Bowl runs, so I couldn’t offer an educated opinion on Nalen.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/53 "2009-10-06T16:07:51Z")

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Jason Taylor maybe?  
Defensive player of the year is always a big boost on the resume.

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**Author:** ![Shig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Shig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shig)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/54 "2009-10-06T16:33:40Z")

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> [@VarlosZ](#):
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> Yes on Nalen. Like Shields, look at the ridiculous success of the Broncos running game during his tenure, mostly with an assortment of unremarkable RBs. \*Someone \*from that line has to make it.
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> Also, isn’t it funny how quickly we forget? Towards the end of their careers Nalen and Seau were just casually mentioned as obvious Hall of Famers whenever they played. Now, just a few years later, not only do we forget to include them, but we have to ask about and debate whether they belong.
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> It’s actually just been a year for those two. Yeah, haha With Nalen as a constant on that line: Terrell Davis, Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson (I really liked that guy), Reuben Droughns, Tatum Bell… all had at least one 1000 yard season with Nalen. These guys are now either retired, playing backup, free agents, or in the UFL right now. Nalen did anchor an amazing line for a lot of years.
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> Are there any other interior linemen (offense or defense) that we’re forgetting? How about LBs?

I don’t think so. Think we got all the shoo-ins and and possible shoo-ins.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/55 "2009-10-06T16:45:42Z")

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Well, we didn’t touch on coaches. Dungy, Holmgren, Shanahan, Parcells…

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**Author:** ![Shig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Shig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shig)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/56 "2009-10-06T16:49:52Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Well, we didn’t touch on coaches. Dungy, Holmgren, Shanahan, Parcells…

Borrrring! 😃

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/57 "2009-10-06T16:52:32Z")

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Nah. I didn’t mention Cowher- now watch what happens when the penny drops. 😉

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**Author:** ![Shig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Shig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shig)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/58 "2009-10-06T17:00:04Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Nah. I didn’t mention Cowher- now watch what happens when the penny drops. 😉

Nope, you didn’t. You forgot Mr. Gray Hoodie from Massachusetts too.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/59 "2009-10-06T17:01:02Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> Jason Taylor maybe?  
> Defensive player of the year is always a big boost on the resume.

Maybe, but I think he’ll have an uphill climb.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/future-hall-of-famers-in-nfl/512508/60 "2009-10-06T17:05:05Z")

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> [@Shig](#):
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> Nope, you didn’t. You forgot Mr. Gray Hoodie from Massachusetts too.

Yeah, but he’s still in the league.

No way Taylor gets in. Never played the run, and writers notice that.

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