# FYI Re: My membership **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [November 27, 2015, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fyi-re-my-membership/738687 "2015-11-27T06:18:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fyi-re-my-membership/738687/61 "2015-11-28T19:48:42Z")
Heck, I was a paid member the first three years. I let that lapse because I was dissatisfied with board crashes and timeouts. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fyi-re-my-membership/738687/62 "2015-11-28T20:06:39Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Well, I’d be shocked if it turned out that every geographically or ethnically defined group of humans had the same IQ distribution, even if it were possible to control for all the contributing variables. You wouldn’t? I wouldn’t, but I’d be shocked if any distribution or breakdown was at all close in any way to various historical pseudo-scentific notions of the different human races, or if such a breakdown just so happened to confirm the assertions of various 19th century pseudo-scientists about which races are superior and inferior. And it just so happens (coincidence, I’m sure – nothing more :dubious:) that the vast majority of the assertions about intelligence (and certain other characteristics) and race from race-realists and their allies mirror these bunk science assertions from the past. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fyi-re-my-membership/738687/63 "2015-11-28T21:19:04Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I wouldn’t, It would be an astounding coincidence, but you wouldn’t be surprised? OK… > [@](#): > > but I’d be shocked if any distribution or breakdown was at all close in any way to various historical pseudo-scentific notions of the different human races, or if such a breakdown just so happened to confirm the assertions of various 19th century pseudo-scientists about which races are superior and inferior. And it just so happens (coincidence, I’m sure – nothing more :dubious:) that the vast majority of the assertions about intelligence (and certain other characteristics) and race from race-realists and their allies mirror these bunk science assertions from the past. So, is it your contention that we should be able to discuss only difference in intelligence that don’t correspond to what people thought in the past? If not, then I don’t know why any of that is of any significance in terms of what should or should not be allowed on this MB. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fyi-re-my-membership/738687/64 "2015-11-28T21:30:44Z")
I’d personally be shocked if the difference turned out to be statistically significant. There’s going to be a _difference_ of course; I wouldn’t expect surveys of two different groups to yield identical results, just because of the randomness of sampling. Heck, I wouldn’t expect two surveys of the _same_ group to yield identical results, for that reason. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fyi-re-my-membership/738687/65 "2015-11-28T21:52:41Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I’d personally be shocked if the difference turned out to be statistically significant. There’s going to be a _difference_ of course; I wouldn’t expect surveys of two different groups to yield identical results, just because of the randomness of sampling. Heck, I wouldn’t expect two surveys of the _same_ group to yield identical results, for that reason. Assuming the underlying characteristic isn’t changing over time, that just speaks to the precision of the tools being used, not the underlying characteristic. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fyi-re-my-membership/738687/66 "2015-11-28T22:15:30Z")
**Moderator Action** We’ve already done the racist/hate speech topic in another thread. Let’s not rehash it here. Thread closed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fyi-re-my-membership/738687.md?page=3)