# Ga Teens kill puppy in oven

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [January 26, 2007, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624 "2007-01-26T21:23:45Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![LVgeogeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b19c9b/32.png) [@LVgeogeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LVgeogeek)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/1 "2007-01-26T21:23:45Z")

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[From this article](http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/26/D8MT6K380.html)

These unhuman fucktards decide they are going to cook a puppy alive in an oven then show it to neighborhood kids.

WHAT THE FUCK!!! I am so pissed off that people do this sort of thing. I cannot even do a decent pitting :mad:

I hope they are punished severly for this.

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### Author: ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/2 "2007-01-26T21:28:57Z")

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[Here’s a link](http://www.ajc.com/services/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2007/01/26/012607metpuppy_web1.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=13) with more detailed information about the crime and the prior trial.

I don’t think a decent Pitting could be expected, **LVgeogeek** – not much to be said here.

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### Author: ![stretch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@stretch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stretch)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/3 "2007-01-26T21:29:44Z")

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These guys are…inretrievably broken. They are fucked in the head in the worst possible way, and I just don’t believe you can fix people like that. I mean, cooking a puppy alive? Taking the kids to see it as a warning? These men should be locked away forever, for everyone’s safety.

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### Author: ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/4 "2007-01-26T21:32:25Z")

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This is just a small part of why I support the death penalty for humans.

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### Author: ![LVgeogeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b19c9b/32.png) [@LVgeogeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LVgeogeek)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/5 "2007-01-26T21:42:06Z")

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Thanks for the additional link **Asimovian**.

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### Author: ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/6 "2007-01-26T21:42:30Z")

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[QUOTE=stretch]  
These guys are…inretrievably broken. They are fucked in the head in the worst possible way, and I just don’t believe you can fix people like that. I mean, cooking a puppy alive? Taking the kids to see it as a warning? These men should be locked away forever, for everyone’s safety.  
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I’m going to pass on clicking on either of those links. Still, I’d like to know what was supposedly being warned of? Not to piss these guys off? Not to be unsafe with ovens and house pets?

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### Author: ![Cowboy8467](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Cowboy8467](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cowboy8467)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/7 "2007-01-26T22:08:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Siam Sam]  
This is just a small part of why I support the death penalty for humans.  
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While I do agree with the death penalty, you seem to be implying that it’s merited in this case, which as heinous as it was, doesn’t compare to the taking of a human life.

Although on second thought you did say it was a small part so maybe I’m mistaken.

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### Author: ![lowbrass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dc4da7/32.png) [@lowbrass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lowbrass)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/8 "2007-01-26T22:16:15Z")

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I don’t get these kinds of threads. Yeah, it’s fucked up, but so many _worse_ things happened that same day - does it really merit a pit thread devoted to it? 1442 people were killed in Iraq so far this month, but one puppy rockets to the top of your indignation list?

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### Author: ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/9 "2007-01-26T22:20:27Z")

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[QUOTE=lowbrass]  
I don’t get these kinds of threads. Yeah, it’s fucked up, but so many _worse_ things happened that same day - does it really merit a pit thread devoted to it? 1442 people were killed in Iraq so far this month, but one puppy rockets to the top of your indignation list?  
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This is a strange comment. We’re only allowed to rant about the one thing we think is the worst injustice in the world at the moment?

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### Author: ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/10 "2007-01-26T22:23:39Z")

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Well you would have a daily Iraqi pitting if you did that, and would get a bit monotonous.

And yes, this is not as bad as killing a human, but close enough for me.

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### Author: ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/11 "2007-01-26T22:24:53Z")

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Its snout was duct taped.

I hope it died of suffocation before the oven could kill it. ☹

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### Author: ![stretch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@stretch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stretch)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/12 "2007-01-26T22:40:23Z")

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[QUOTE=kaylasdad99]  
I’m going to pass on clicking on either of those links. Still, I’d like to know what was supposedly being warned of? Not to piss these guys off? Not to be unsafe with ovens and house pets?  
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These two guys (17 and 19 year old brothers) killed the puppy, then took neighborhood kids to see it and warned them that they’d kill them if they reported it.

To my mind, the only reason you take someone to see something like that is to prove you will/would do something like that given a reason…like if they didn’t like your face. I’d be wanting to move far, far away from those guys and their family.

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### Author: ![lowbrass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dc4da7/32.png) [@lowbrass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lowbrass)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/13 "2007-01-26T23:01:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Asimovian]  
This is a strange comment. We’re only allowed to rant about the one thing we think is the worst injustice in the world at the moment?  
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You’re allowed - and I am allowed to comment. I just find it odd that people scour the news for accounts of sick things that someone did that day. There were undoubtedly x number of murders, x number of rapes, x number of people tortured, etc. that same day. It’s a given that somewhere someone did something really fucked-up on any particular day. Why do people feel the need to dwell on things that are sensationalist, but not really any worse than the million other bad things that happened? Because it had the word “puppy” in the article?

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### Author: ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/14 "2007-01-26T23:04:52Z")

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For me it’s not so much the puppy as it is the mentality of someone who could do such a thing. These kids are pure sociopaths and very dangerous.

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### Author: ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/15 "2007-01-26T23:06:44Z")

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You ain’t gettin’ it, are you **lowbrass**? These guys did what they did to show a bunch of innocent kids that they are sadists and to be feared. This is not just another dead dog.

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### Author: ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/16 "2007-01-26T23:09:56Z")

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They should make them EAT it. In public.

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### Author: ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/17 "2007-01-26T23:12:43Z")

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[QUOTE=lowbrass]  
You’re allowed - and I am allowed to comment. I just find it odd that people scour the news for accounts of sick things that someone did that day. There were undoubtedly x number of murders, x number of rapes, x number of people tortured, etc. that same day. It’s a given that somewhere someone did something really fucked-up on any particular day. Why do people feel the need to dwell on things that are sensationalist, but not really any worse than the million other bad things that happened? Because it had the word “puppy” in the article?  
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You seem to be taking things to an extreme for reasons that are unclear to me.

First, you said, “1442 people were killed in Iraq so far this month, but one puppy rockets to the top of your indignation list?” and now you’ve followed that with the assumption that people are “scouring” for nasty news. First of all, neither the OP nor anyone else in this thread have claimed that this is the most upsetting news they’ve read all day. However, during this time of war, news about the death of individuals in Iraq isn’t unusual (and I think that most here would agree that that’s a sad truth). However, news about two very twisted individuals baking a puppy alive is not something we hear about every day. It’s a very sad thing, and while it may not come anywhere near the level of tragedy caused by the thousands of deaths overseas, that doesn’t automatically make it unworthy of comment, either.

Secondly, why are you under the impression that anyone was scouring the news to find this item? Personally, I read the news online on a regular basis. If something – positive or negative or otherwise – seems worthy of comment, I’ll do so. You and I apparently have different definitions of “dwelling” based on how you’re applying it to this thread.

You’re certainly allowed to comment. I never meant to imply otherwise. I’m just trying to understand where you’re coming from since you decided to bring it up in this thread.

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### Author: ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/18 "2007-01-26T23:15:49Z")

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My guess is **lowbrass** either a) has a hair up his back about knee-jerk animal rights activists, or b) is subtly agitating for greater societal acceptance of sadistic and/or violent behavior, perhaps in keeping with the U.S. Marine Corps credo that “blood makes the grass grow.”

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### Author: ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/19 "2007-01-26T23:42:28Z")

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[QUOTE=lowbrass]  
I don’t get these kinds of threads. Yeah, it’s fucked up, but so many _worse_ things happened that same day - does it really merit a pit thread devoted to it? 1442 people were killed in Iraq so far this month, but one puppy rockets to the top of your indignation list?  
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One part of it is that, when someone kills another human, usually there’s at least an understandable motivation. If someone shoots another person for the $20 in his wallet, well, it’s horrible, evil, and inexcusable, but still… twenty bucks is twenty bucks. Pretty much everyone can understand why someone would want twenty bucks, even if they don’t understand wanting it badly enough to kill a human. In this case, there is no understandable motivation. The two teens had absolutely nothing to gain from this act, except (apparently) the “pleasure” of watching an animal suffer and die. Which is something entirely beyond the conception of most sane people. That’s what makes situations like this so horrifying, even if the actual act itself is not on as low a moral plane as taking the life of a human being.

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### Author: ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2007, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ga-teens-kill-puppy-in-oven/389624/20 "2007-01-26T23:48:41Z")

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Why does **lowbrass** hate puppies?

I think it’s the concept of small, innocent, helpless things being killed in such a cruel manner that gets people riled up. And the only motivation seems to be a) these guys thought it would be fun or b) these guys wanted to scare the hell out of the local kids. Either one speaks very poorly of these two as human beings.

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