# Gack....

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 18, 2013, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178 "2013-09-18T21:11:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/41 "2013-09-19T19:54:34Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Does anyone know what the hell Oprah has to do with anything? He keeps referring to a show of hers. But she’s not a denier and she’s been off the air for like what…5 years?

She did an episode with Elie Weisel and **Gack** refers to the episode as some sort of revelatory episode in his quest to be more obscure.

Basically, he’s trying to call question into some of the photographic evidence of the Holocaust and tries to do so by tying his denial to a well known and well liked person (though the person herself is not a Holocaust denier).

It’s innocence by association, much like he tries to make Nazi Germany itself appear better by comparison to a megalomaniacal Britain that only exists in his head.

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**Author:** ![SeldomSeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@SeldomSeen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeldomSeen)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/42 "2013-09-19T22:06:34Z")

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Quote:  
Originally Posted by El\_Kabong

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> I thought he was coughing up a hair ball.

> [@Duckster](#):
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> Sounds like this.
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTDUuBWGtpU](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTDUuBWGtpU)

Or like [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5wWlMNBrvY)

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/43 "2013-09-19T22:37:29Z")

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I can’t decide who’s worse: holocaust deniers or anti-vax nuts. I suppose the latter as most vaccine-preventable diseases are highly contagious. But I’ll never understand the human impulse to side with Hitler or the measles.

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/44 "2013-09-19T23:44:07Z")

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And he is getting his info from here

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute\_for\_Historical\_Review](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Historical_Review)

**Capt**

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/45 "2013-09-20T00:59:30Z")

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And some people say that anti-Semitism is a thing of the past.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/46 "2013-09-20T01:15:07Z")

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Bad troll. Ignore to death.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/47 "2013-09-20T01:39:03Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Bad troll. Ignore to death.

Sound advice, heed this person.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/48 "2013-09-20T01:54:33Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Does anyone know what the hell Oprah has to do with anything? He keeps referring to a show of hers. But she’s not a denier and she’s been off the air for like what…5 years?

Not _that_ Oprah, the other one.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/49 "2013-09-20T03:50:08Z")

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**Gack**. Talk about low-hanging fruit. But I am grateful that someone started a thread in an appropriate forum where I can voice my sincere opinion that **Gack** is a worthless piece of human filth.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/50 "2013-09-20T03:55:53Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> **Gack**. Talk about low-hanging fruit. But I am grateful that someone started a thread in an appropriate forum where I can voice my sincere opinion that **Gack** is a worthless piece of human filth.

That’s a _horrible_ thing to say.

He’s not human.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/51 "2013-09-20T03:57:51Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> **Gack**. Talk about low-hanging fruit. But I am grateful that someone started a thread in an appropriate forum where I can voice my sincere opinion that **Gack** is a worthless piece of human filth.

> [@runner pat](#):
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> That’s a _horrible_ thing to say.
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> He’s not human.

Fair point.

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**Author:** ![madrabbitwoman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c37758/32.png) [@madrabbitwoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madrabbitwoman)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/52 "2013-09-20T09:18:24Z")

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well reading that made me feel sick

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/53 "2013-09-20T09:57:38Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> That’s a _horrible_ thing to say.
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> He’s not human.

“Filth” is kind of pushing the envelope as far as euphemisms go as well.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/54 "2013-09-20T11:27:18Z")

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Every now and then I dip into GD when a thread like this pops up. I don’t know why anyone bothers.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/55 "2013-09-20T11:38:54Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Every now and then I dip into GD when a thread like this pops up. I don’t know why anyone bothers.

If you only go in up to your waist, you’ll clean up just fine.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/56 "2013-09-20T12:02:08Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> If you only go in up to your waist, you’ll clean up just fine.

I don’t want to be covered in gack.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/57 "2013-09-20T13:22:03Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Every now and then I dip into GD when a thread like this pops up. I don’t know why anyone bothers.

If it’s allowed to stand, it gains credence by others who might see it.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/58 "2013-09-20T13:46:54Z")

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> To them denying the holocaust just ‘proves’ how manipulative the Jews are, further justifying their own anti-Semitism. I doubt that they’d mind launching their own holocaust; the Jews to them are subhumans who secretly run things and undermine nations via control of the banks, the media, etc. They’re so subhuman that they made up the holocaust to (in their warped little minds) punish the poor, righteous nation of Aryans in Germany and to get their own state in Israel.

I’m sure it’s happened, but I’ve visited my fair share of white power sites and I don’t ever recall seeing the Holocaust denial faction argue with a pro-Holocaust sect. Because the latter should be angry that the former is denigrating Germany and Hitler’s accomplishments. In their view Germany was the first Jew controlled state to wake up and wrest control of their economy away from the economic parasites (hence their meteoric rise) and were only dragged down because the Jews tricked the other nations into taking Germany out for them. I guess the denialists would be the white power Protestants.

There’s other hard denials like the Armenian genocide or Japan’s various flavors of WWII atrocity denial, but the softer denial remind me of the guys who say stuff like ‘oh sure, slavery was bad and all, but it wasn’t THAT bad. And the South didn’t fight a war to keep it, anyway.’

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/59 "2013-09-20T16:55:00Z")

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He’s either a troll or a honest to god holocaust denier.

If a troll then he should be just ignored.

I’ve never once met or read a holocaust denier that wasn’t underneath it all just a racist fascist loving bastard. Some come out and just admit their true leaning. Others use the “I’m just looking for the truth” argument but ultimately they are what they are and should be sneered at and then ignored.

I know that there is value in the threads with these fuckwits as people reading get info that they may not have seen before and see ignorance and hatred fought but it still bugs the crap out of me to see these people’s ideas every entertained with argument.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/60 "2013-09-20T19:42:38Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> If it’s allowed to stand, it gains credence by others who might see it.

Not really. Deniers won’t be swayed by arguments. And the asshole in question is not arguing in good faith. He is playing everyone like a fiddle and you are dancing to his tune. If it was a wrong-headed non-troll I’d say go ahead but that thread is a waste of good bandwidth that could be used for charity. Or porn. Or charity porn.

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