# Gack.... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 18, 2013, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178 "2013-09-18T21:11:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/81 "2013-09-21T19:01:48Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > It is entirely possible to fully believe everything you write and still be trolling. Yes, I gathered that. But the point I and others have been trying to make is that a troll is **only** interested in trolling. **Gack** , for his other faults, doesn’t seem to fit that. As far as can be told, he (along with evangelicals and other would-be proseltyzers) appear to have two main purposes: (1) affirmation of their own belief structures and (2) the odd person to convert. Sure, they know that the vast majority of people are going to be provoked (and may even be engaged in some low level trollery there) but they aren’t on a quest solely to piss people off. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/82 "2013-09-21T19:17:53Z")
I would agree, except that now the record shows that he is not wanting to have discussion but to continue to repeat already clear demonstrated lies, And I have to see yet a single convert for all his efforts over here. Heck, even a crazed preacher in a plaza at UC Berkeley tossed to the trash all his tiny fliers he was distributing when I showed him that the information in his fliers was full of lies, they contained a complete misrepresentation of what big apes are really capable. (Not better than humans regarding violence and dirty sex, in fact there can be much worse than humans.) I would think that a sincere person would thrash the bad information as soon as it appears because it is important to be aware of the the audience you have, (mostly academics over there 15 years ago at Berkeley and there are a few academics here in the SBMB). A troll would just see that and happily continue to distribute lies after others already reported to him how wrong he is, he does know that what he is doing now is to piss people off. ---
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/83 "2013-09-21T22:30:53Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > I know that there is value in the threads with these fuckwits as people reading get info that they may not have seen before and see ignorance and hatred fought but it still bugs the crap out of me to see these people’s ideas every entertained with argument. Exactly. Particularly in online spaces that serve as discussion areas, it can be far worse to ignore trolls or horrible people. Demolishing and discrediting Holocaust deniers et al isn’t necessarily for the denier’s benefit but for all the lurkers/readers following along. Lurkers who already know BS claims are BS may discover new-to-them information, learn how successful debaters detect denier’s fallacies or lies and see how to clearly present rebuttals. Lurkers who may be on the fence (often from not knowing a HUGE amount about the topic and seeing the denier having tons of facts and figures that supposedly back him up) absolutely deserve to see those arguments demolished and reach a better understanding themselves. Isn’t that the entire point of “fighting ignorance”, after all? Oh, and: > [@runner pat](#): > > That’s a _horrible_ thing to say. > > He’s not human. Denying a person’s humanity due to horrific opinions or actions [is incredibly dangerous](http://www.amnottheonlyone.com/all-humans-are-people-or-othering-justice-and-the-monkeysphere/): > [@](#): > > Let me tell you a bit about “incorrigibles”. For starters, there are none. **Human beings are human beings, and some human beings commit acts that other human beings rightly condemn. That doesn’t, as much as we much sometimes want it to, put those people outside the realm of “human”.** > … > The meta purpose of “othering” human beings [by declaring they are not human] is to allow some humans to gain power at the expense of other human beings. … **It never serves the larger human good to deny rule of law and the process of justice to any human being, no matter what that human is accused of.** > … > **Once [you] define a person as “other”, it is far easier to then pose a solution to the “problem” that is not a solution that honors human beings. We find ourselves (as humans do) not caring about justice once an “incorrigible” has been defined**, whether that definition is “sex offender” or “terrorist” or “gang member” (bonus racial subtext!) or “felon”. Or “Holocaust denier”. I find it particularly distressing to see these “not human” claims in a thread about someone denying _the goddamned Holocaust_, which was carried out precisely because _the Nazis believed Jews (et al) were less than human_. I mean, for fuck’s sake! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Athabasca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Athabasca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athabasca)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/84 "2013-09-22T16:09:31Z")
Hi y’all If Gack is banned, what happens if he just starts trolling again under an alias? Sincerely, Athabasca ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/85 "2013-09-22T16:29:03Z")
> [@Athabasca](#): > > Hi y’all > > If Gack is banned, what happens if he just starts trolling again under an alias? > > Sincerely, > Athabasca He gets found out and banned. His writing style is pretty distinctive. Plus, he’ll probably do things that would get him banned anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/86 "2013-09-22T16:32:22Z")
I think **Gack** is the first poster that has actually occasioned rude words from me directed at him for a very long time. ---
**Author:** ![Athabasca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Athabasca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athabasca)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/87 "2013-09-22T18:29:18Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > He gets found out and banned. His writing style is pretty distinctive. Plus, he’ll probably do things that would get him banned anyway. 'K, thanks. Love the passion for anti-ignorance on this board… ---
**Author:** ![Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boulter_s_Canary)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/88 "2013-09-22T21:57:37Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > If you only go in up to your waist, you’ll clean up just fine. Tea break over, back on your heads! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/89 "2013-09-22T22:23:01Z")
> [@Boulter\_s\_Canary](#): > > Tea break over, back on your heads! 😉 :D. Gack! ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/90 "2013-09-22T23:56:46Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Weren’t the Penn State/JoePa/Sandusky supporters saying the same thing “just wait until \ comes out with startling evidence that will change your worldview”? I am now looking forward to the post where **Gack** proves the Holocaust never happened using a paper towel tube. (The inevitable next step from his proving the Holocaust never happened using a singed chicken.) ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/91 "2013-09-23T00:03:16Z")
See, if you insert a paper towel in the human rectum, it prevents combustion by offering the fire and smoke an exit path. I can’t wait for **Gack** to ask us to test this very simple physical principle. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/92 "2013-09-23T22:16:25Z")
Wow. I go away from the GD thread for a few days, and now we’re burning chickens with gasoline in the back yard? [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16691773&postcount=536](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16691773&postcount=536) ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/93 "2013-09-23T23:52:12Z")
From the GD thread: > [@Questions about Hitler and Nazi Germany's attempted extermination of Europe's Jews](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/questions-about-hitler-and-nazi-germanys-attempted-extermination-of-europes-jews/669168/543): > > If experimentation like this ends up burning down his house, revised history will show that it was the jews that caused the fire. 😃 For Gack the purpose of his life is only to serve as a warning to others. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/94 "2013-09-24T00:00:33Z")
For reals… It doesn’t match the sheer self-deluded awesomeness of the paper towel tube test, but **Gack** ’s backyard chicken barbecue test as substitute for mass human cremation is up there. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/95 "2013-09-25T05:44:23Z")
[So can we get on with banning the troll yet](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16695855&postcount=575)? > [@me](#): > > > [@Gack](#): > > > > The idea that ‘every party member’ would tell you that the Jews are being exterminated, is absurd. It runs counter to every other thing I know about the holocaust and I don’t think there is a shred of evidence for it, that is, that the rank and file Nazi party members discussed exterminating the Jews freely. > > Hang on just one god damn minute here chief. How can it run counter to every other thing you know about the holocaust when you claim the holocaust didn’t happen? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/96 "2013-09-25T05:53:56Z")
Just curious, but while I know wishing death against a member is a no-no, are we allowed to wish death on the Banned? Hypothetically speaking. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/97 "2013-09-25T07:20:49Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Just curious, but while I know wishing death against a member is a no-no, are we allowed to wish death on the Banned? > > Hypothetically speaking. I think if you offer to emigrate him with extreme prejudice - or since he doesnt understand what ‘exterminate’ means - you might have some leeway there. Hypothetically speaking, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/98 "2013-09-25T08:36:14Z")
Of course. ---
**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/99 "2013-09-25T13:43:04Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > I thought he was coughing up a hair ball. My first thought was my old friend, [Bill the cat.](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://blogs.mcall.com/.a/6a00d8341c4fe353ef0133edb5de38970b-800wi&imgrefurl=http://blogs.mcall.com/.a/6a00d8341c4fe353ef0133edb5de38970b-popup&h=500&w=465&sz=122&tbnid=3RE6d0JcNSuREM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=84&prev=/search%3Fq%3DBill%2Bthe%2BCat%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=Bill+the+Cat&usg=__0iGnsKrUcw_lSZ8jQKG15lCYJxM=&sa=X&ei=fedCUrWXF8GRqQHdy4CQDw&ved=0CCIQ9QEwAw)😃 ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178/100 "2013-09-25T14:33:31Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > …If it was a wrong-headed non-troll I’d say go ahead but that thread is a waste of good bandwidth that could be used for charity. Or porn. Or charity porn. If charity porn is like a pity fuck, then it’s too good for gack. His goose is gacked. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gack/669178.md?page=6)