# Gaddafi is dead, as Sirte falls to Libyan troops

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 20, 2011, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237 "2011-10-20T12:30:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/1 "2011-10-20T12:30:30Z")

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So reports [al Jazeera](http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/10/20111020111520869621.html).

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/2 "2011-10-20T12:32:31Z")

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Rats, his trial would have been a blast.

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**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/3 "2011-10-20T12:32:35Z")

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BBC news is reporting that Gaddaffi might have been captured.

> **[Libyan forces 'capture Gaddafi'](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15385955)**
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> Forces loyal to Libya's transitional authorities say they have captured Col Muammar Gaddafi, with some reports saying he has been killed.

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> Commanders for Libya’s transitional authorities say they have captured ousted leader Col Muammar Gaddafi.
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> The reports came after transitional forces claimed control of Sirte, Col Gaddafi’s birthplace, following weeks of fierce fighting.

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> But NTC official Abdel Majid Mlegta told Reuters news agency that the former leader had been shot in the head and killed as he tried to flee.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/4 "2011-10-20T12:36:11Z")

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> [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](#):
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> Gaddafi is dead, as Sirte falls to Libyan troops

> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#):
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> BBC news is reporting that Gaddaffi might have been captured.

Is he dead or is he alive? Where is Erwin Schrödinger when you need him?

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/5 "2011-10-20T12:44:33Z")

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The BBC won’t say “killed” until they can back it up though the general tone of the reporting is suggesting to me that he is dead.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/6 "2011-10-20T13:22:35Z")

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CNN showed a grainy cellphone picture that certainly looked like him bloody and lifeless, being carried by a group of people.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/7 "2011-10-20T13:28:07Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> CNN showed a grainy cellphone picture that certainly looked like him bloody and lifeless, being carried by a group of people.

You think that looked like him? It could have been any shot up, bloody, dead Libyan.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/8 "2011-10-20T13:28:21Z")

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Another tyrant takes up residence in the Fletcher Memorial Home in the sky.

Boom boom, bang bang, lie down you’re dead.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/9 "2011-10-20T13:36:05Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> Rats, his trial would have been a blast.

I’d have paid money for the English translation at the bottom of the screen to have said, " So… I guess… THIS is how that ‘Hopey Changey Thing’ will work out for You…"

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/10 "2011-10-20T13:46:36Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> You think that looked like him? It could have been any shot up, bloody, dead Libyan.

Yeah, it looked like him. As I said, it was a grainy cellphone picture, so it’s not definitive, but he has a pretty distinctive “butter” face that came through in the picture.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/11 "2011-10-20T13:51:12Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> Yeah, it looked like him. As I said, it was a grainy cellphone picture, so it’s not definitive, but he has a pretty distinctive “butter” face that came through in the picture.

I agree. That photo very much looked like Gaddafi. Very distinctive face that comes through.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/12 "2011-10-20T13:55:17Z")

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Here’s a link to a video with the picture. [Warning graphic image.](http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/10/20/am-alleged-gadhafi-photo.cnn)  
(Link not broken because there are already ample warnings in the link and the video itself.)

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/13 "2011-10-20T14:02:33Z")

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CNN is now showing an even more graphic video of an apparently dead Gaddafi, don’t have a link to it yet.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/14 "2011-10-20T14:07:00Z")

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Shame. I mean, the world is no poorer for the loss of another thug and tyrant (we’ve plenty of spares left), but keeping Ghaddafi alive for trial would have been a neat demonstration of the NTC’s capacity for discipline and restraint, and to command that quality in its troops. Especially since the fall of Sirte was rather a messy affair, it would have been good to see that.

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**Author:** ![raskolnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e47c2d/32.png) [@raskolnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raskolnik)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/15 "2011-10-20T14:40:35Z")

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Ghadaffi was too crazy or dumb to stand down to anybody…after 40 years of scaring your own people and bulgarian nurses, what’s left?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/16 "2011-10-20T14:56:07Z")

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First reaction: ‘good riddance.’

Second reaction: ‘I wonder if anyone had him in the [Celebrity Death Pool](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=587533&page=45)?’ (Apparently, a couple of participants did have him on their lists.)

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/17 "2011-10-20T15:08:32Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> First reaction: ‘good riddance.’
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> Second reaction: ‘I wonder if anyone had him in the [Celebrity Death Pool](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=587533&page=45)?’ (Apparently, a couple of participants did have him on their lists.)

Oddly enough, my first and second reactions were the same, but in reversed order.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/18 "2011-10-20T15:25:58Z")

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To make this thread pointless, I’ll note that the terrible early Fox sitcom [Second Chance](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chance_%28TV_series%29) predicted that Gadaffi would die in battle in 2011.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/19 "2011-10-20T15:29:17Z")

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Initial reports claim Gaddafi was wearing a Shirley Temple costume and squealed “don’t hurt me, mommy!” while holding up a Koran as a Holy Shield as he was shot.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddafi-is-dead-as-sirte-falls-to-libyan-troops/600237/20 "2011-10-20T15:35:16Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Initial reports claim Gaddafi was wearing a Shirley Temple costume and squealed “don’t hurt me, mommy!” while holding up a Koran as a Holy Shield as he was shot.

OK, I laughed.

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