# Gaddis ID'd, second body found - Weaver scumbag, FBI slow on the uptake **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 26, 2002, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddis-idd-second-body-found-weaver-scumbag-fbi-slow-on-the-uptake/125543 "2002-08-26T01:21:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2002, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddis-idd-second-body-found-weaver-scumbag-fbi-slow-on-the-uptake/125543/1 "2002-08-26T01:21:36Z")
Zen posting. Cool. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2002, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddis-idd-second-body-found-weaver-scumbag-fbi-slow-on-the-uptake/125543/2 "2002-08-26T01:24:00Z")
Lucky for me, I let the server hide bodies the same place it hides the OPs. I’ll never be caught. ---
**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2002, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddis-idd-second-body-found-weaver-scumbag-fbi-slow-on-the-uptake/125543/3 "2002-08-26T01:27:29Z")
[Link](http://news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc&cid=34&in=us&cat=missing_children) to Yahoo coverage on the story. ---
**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2002, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddis-idd-second-body-found-weaver-scumbag-fbi-slow-on-the-uptake/125543/4 "2002-08-26T01:44:31Z")
Does Oregon have the death penalty? ::crossing fingers:: [Another story](http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2002/08/24/oregon_remains/index.html) I read on it says the monster’s ex-wife notified the FBI of her suspicions about him when the girls went missing. That coupled with the fact that they knew he had contact with both girls and had him on a suspects list leaves me rather shocked that it took this long for officials to look around. I’m no detective, but it seems to me a new concrete floor right around the time two girls go missing should be a major red flag. bella ---
**Author:** ![TeaElle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TeaElle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaElle)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2002, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddis-idd-second-body-found-weaver-scumbag-fbi-slow-on-the-uptake/125543/5 "2002-08-26T01:58:29Z")
Even better – the first girl to go missing reported being sexually molested when she went on a trip with Weaver and his daughter a few months ago. This man already preyed on the child once and no one did a damned thing. ---
**Author:** ![TVGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/82dd89/32.png) [@TVGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2002, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddis-idd-second-body-found-weaver-scumbag-fbi-slow-on-the-uptake/125543/6 "2002-08-26T02:14:04Z")
I love this board sometimes … blown OP and 45 minutes before I can get back in. Anyway, here’s the two original links I posted [Local](http://www.koin.com/webnews/20022/20020825_missingf.shtml) [National](http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/25/oregon.girls/index.html) This guy has been on everyone’s top ten suspect list for months - everyone’s except the FBI of course. He’s in jail now for alledgedly raping his son’s girlfriend. His father is on death row in California for raping and killing two women then burying one of them in his back yard and building a deck over her body. Gee, like father like son? The investigation has taken too long. The crime scene is contaminated (Weaver’s landlord let family members remove stuff from the house two weeks ago when he started eviction proceedings on Weaver.) The site had been wide open to the public up until Friday night - no police watch, no guards, no nothing. You want to BET that Weaver’s lawyer will use that as a PRIMARY means of getting this scumbag off. If that happens, Weaver won’t make it ten feet outside the courtroom door. Yeah, yeah, I know - he hasn’t actually been charged and he denies responsiblity and just because two dead bodies come to light in your back yard doesn’t make you the killer. But FUCK - one of these little girls was found among a stack of trash bags in Weaver’s shed. The other (presumably - the body will be ID’d tomorrow) was found buried in a barrel under Ward’s brand new shiny concrete deck. This fuckstick had better BURN - and yes, Oregon does have the death penalty - this is one time it’ll be justified. ---
**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2002, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddis-idd-second-body-found-weaver-scumbag-fbi-slow-on-the-uptake/125543/7 "2002-08-26T02:14:38Z")
To answer **belladonna** ’s question: Oregon does have the death penalty…lethal injection is the current flavor of choice. Not much else that I could add to this thread…like others, I am surprised that the FBI took _this long_ to get around to searching Weaver’s place. May the monster rot. ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2002, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddis-idd-second-body-found-weaver-scumbag-fbi-slow-on-the-uptake/125543/8 "2002-08-26T03:53:37Z")
Don’t get many chances to post one of these: Me too. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2002, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddis-idd-second-body-found-weaver-scumbag-fbi-slow-on-the-uptake/125543/9 "2002-08-26T07:29:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TVGuy \* > \*\* You want to BET that Weaver’s lawyer will use that as a PRIMARY means of getting this scumbag off. > > \*\* The lawyer will have a hard time talking around the confession, if the son decides to testify. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2002, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddis-idd-second-body-found-weaver-scumbag-fbi-slow-on-the-uptake/125543/10 "2002-08-26T14:28:05Z")
spooje, What confession? Both links above mention a reported confession, but officials deny knowing about it. And as to the FBI being slow… I’m not sure what the basis was for the warrant that ultimately allowed them to search… but did they have probable cause to get a warrant earlier? What was it? ---
**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2002, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddis-idd-second-body-found-weaver-scumbag-fbi-slow-on-the-uptake/125543/11 "2002-08-26T19:29:04Z")
Weaver had consented to a search previously, soon after the girls went missing. Dogs were brought in, but found nothing (which I find odd). He was questioned by the police and the media, and steadfastly denied any involvement. On Friday, sitting in jail on the rape charge, he gave written permission for the FBI to search the house and grounds. He said he wanted the family to have “closure”. Apparently they didn’t have sufficient evidence to search without his permission. The confession is hearsay. The son said his father admitted killing the girls, but that was after dad raped his girlfriend, so his word may be suspect. I’d say Weaver almost certainly did it, but it’s a weird case. The trial is going to be a fucking circus. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2002, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddis-idd-second-body-found-weaver-scumbag-fbi-slow-on-the-uptake/125543/12 "2002-08-26T19:34:30Z")
Ferrous: Although hearsay, the confession qualifies as an admission against penal interest, which is an exception to the hearsay rule. If the summary above is accurate, I’m not sure why anyone would blame the FBI. They couldn’t have searched earlier. How were they “slow”? ---
**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2002, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gaddis-idd-second-body-found-weaver-scumbag-fbi-slow-on-the-uptake/125543/13 "2002-08-26T19:41:39Z")
Sorry, Bricker. I don’t actually speak legalese. I used the word loosely. I haven’t been following the story all that closely. But once the FBI got the go-ahead to search, things happened _very_ quickly. They got permission Friday night, and they immediately called a press conference, fenced off the property, brought in lots of equipment, and tented certain areas. There was live TV coverage nearly constantly this weekend.