# Gah! some people in my state are so idiotic...

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**Created:** [September 10, 2006, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158 "2006-09-10T13:27:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![LorieSmurf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a587f6/32.png) [@LorieSmurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LorieSmurf)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/1 "2006-09-10T13:27:33Z")

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I’ve never linked to a news story before, so hopefully this will work:

[nude photo scandal](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14737981/)  
(I did a search before starting this thread, didn’t see any other threads about it. Which is kind of strange, actually…)  
When stupid shit like this happens, I’m embarrassed to be from Oklahoma. Some of the most close-minded religious freakos live in this state, and they think that their beliefs trump the constitution. There’s a reason why we were the last fucking state to legalize tattooing. Because we have a lot of idiots here. And a lot of those idiots unfortunately are in public office. There aren’t enough :rolleyes: and :mad: in this world.

Trust me guys, not everybody from Oklahoma is a bible-bouncing asshole.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/2 "2006-09-10T13:31:53Z")

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Don’t be so selfish, **Lorie**! Oklahoma is an enormous comfort to a recovering Texan.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/3 "2006-09-10T13:48:45Z")

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Yeah, but what do _you_ know? Tulsa’s full of freaks and weirdos! 😛

Meh, I don’t feel connected to any of the closed minded idiots here. I just point and laugh.

The whole story just has a “not worth it” vibe around it. I did enjoy the Channel 9 clip last night that showed the ex sherriff shaking the guy’s hand (the one that either took the pics or leaked them, not really paying that close attention to the silliness) and saying, “Tnak you! Thank you for ruining my life.” in a very deadpan voice. Bettr than anything The Simpsons are putting on the air lately.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/4 "2006-09-10T15:40:22Z")

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I live in Georgia. I got idiots of my own to be ashamed of. Some of them are relatives.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/5 "2006-09-10T16:32:15Z")

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I’m not sure why you feel a need to be ashamed. Along with the fools, there were several very morally upright individuals–the mayor and councilman who each resigned rather than be a party to the nonsense.

You also might note that there is probably some political angling going on here. The primary couple stirring up shit were a wife and husband who had each previously held the office of mayor, suggesting to me that this was more likley a political issue than a moral one.

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**Author:** ![GLWasteful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/6 "2006-09-10T17:02:11Z")

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The best part of the entire article, I thought, was:

> [@MSNBC article](#):
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> “My wife is 6-foot-3 and weighs 300 pounds,” said Ozmun, who became chief in January 2005. “If there is somebody that thinks they can control her, have at it. I have tried for 11 years and haven’t been able to.”

Actually, the reaction of the chief seems just right for nonsense such as this. Can’t remember if it was Yahoo or what, but in an earlier story I read he seemed genuinely confused about the whole to-do and said, (paraphrasing) “I’m from Hawaii, this is nothing as far as I’m concerned.”

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/7 "2006-09-10T17:16:47Z")

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If they were naked **DEAD** pictures of her, then [these 3 guys](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0906061grave1.html) might have driven over to visit her from my state.

Believe me, OK has no special claim to being nutcase central.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/8 "2006-09-10T17:34:27Z")

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[QUOTE=LorieSmurf]  
Trust me guys, not everybody from Oklahoma is a bible-bouncing asshole.  
[/QUOTE]  
\<Elwood Blues\> “R-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-rubber Chris-tian!” \</eb\>

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/9 "2006-09-10T18:00:50Z")

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[Here](http://www.kcci.com/news/9812908/detail.html) is another article that links a partial of one of the “scandalous” photos. And, if you’re going to adhere to the spirit of your holy book than I suggest you do so in a manner similar to this from Clifford Barnard, the councilman who resigned…

> [@](#):
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> “The citizens’ concerns that we were not enforcing religious and moral beliefs was very heartfelt and I don’t want to be associated with their moral or religious beliefs because I’ve never read anywhere in the Good Book that the Lord wanted us to persecute those that did not hold the same morals or values.”

I’d like to know which one of the town folk was looking for porn in the first place, to stumble upon Doris. Think they’ll fess up?

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/10 "2006-09-10T18:02:02Z")

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Oh, and I forgot to mention that it is work safe.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/11 "2006-09-10T18:31:23Z")

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Maybe they wouldn’t have been so pissed if she was 5’4 and 110 pounds.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/12 "2006-09-10T18:40:10Z")

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There are many days I am ashamed to live in Texas.

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**Author:** ![GLWasteful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/13 "2006-09-10T21:20:45Z")

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[QUOTE=dalej42]  
There are many days I am ashamed to live in Texas.  
[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but this took place in Oklahoma. Seems like a red letter day for those from the Lone Star State to me.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/14 "2006-09-11T03:38:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]  
\<Elwood Blues\> “R-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-rubber Chris-tian!” \</eb\>  
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If he don’t bounce back… you go hungry?

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**Author:** ![FilmGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@FilmGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FilmGeek)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/15 "2006-09-11T03:45:07Z")

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My thoughts exactly. Why does her weight and height even enter into it, except in the quote from her husband? (which I thought was funny)

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/16 "2006-09-11T06:24:57Z")

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[QUOTE=faithfool]  
[Here](http://www.kcci.com/news/9812908/detail.html) is another article that links a partial of one of the “scandalous” photos.  
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She’s not exactly a looker, is she? Certainly doesn’t seem to be too happy in that photo, at any rate. Still, it could be worse. In Vermont, there’s a town which has, up until now, [been pretty much okay with public nudity, but someone’s knickers have gotten into a twist over it.](http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060828/NEWS/608280368/1003/NEWS02l)

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> A politely rebellious collection of teenagers passing time in the Harmony Parking Lot this summer has taken to disrobing. Seemingly on a whim, they shed clothes and soak up the sun, nude.
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> What began as a lark or an ode to youthful exuberance, has now turned into a municipal quandary, because public nudity is permissible in Brattleboro.
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> In the words of Town Manager Jerry Remillard, if you’re naked in public, and you’re minding your business, you’re legal.
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> “We’re quite a bit different than a lot of places,” Remillard said.
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> Spurred by complaints, the town’s Select Board will consider changing that, although no changes are expected soon. In the meantime, some pedestrians avert their eyes. Some youths cheer on their naked friends, and a few adults are so offended that they become nearly hysterical.

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**Author:** ![buns3000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c89c15/32.png) [@buns3000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buns3000)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/17 "2006-09-11T09:10:41Z")

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[QUOTE=SHAKES]  
Maybe they wouldn’t have been so pissed if she was 5’4 and 110 pounds.  
[/QUOTE]  
I know _I_ wouldn’t be.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/18 "2006-09-11T11:21:28Z")

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[QUOTE=faithfool]  
I’d like to know which one of the town folk was looking for porn in the first place, to stumble upon Doris. Think they’ll fess up?  
[/QUOTE]

Maybe it was on Myspace? And while I have no problem with nudity, I cannot endorse any 40something year old person having a freakin’ Myspace page.

> [@Tuckerfan's link](#):
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> In the meantime, some pedestrians avert their eyes. Some youths cheer on their naked friends, **and a few adults are so offended that they become nearly hysterical**.

Seriously? A bunch of naked teenagers resulted in adults becoming hysterical? And apparently not with laughter, which is what I would have assumed. If I’d seen that, I just would have told them that they’re doing this streaking thing all wrong.

What the hell is the big deal? Has anyone ever actually developed a lifelong debilitating neurosis by being exposed to naked people? Besides, it’s Vermont. Outdoor nudity is only an option for three or so months out of the year. Just consider it peen hunting season. 😉

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/19 "2006-09-11T14:38:32Z")

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[QUOTE=DianaG]  
Has anyone ever actually developed a lifelong debilitating neurosis by being exposed to naked people?  
[/QUOTE]  
Based on this and other stories, it’s just the opposite, I would say.

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**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gah-some-people-in-my-state-are-so-idiotic/372158/20 "2006-09-11T15:52:22Z")

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[QUOTE=LorieSmurf]  
When stupid shit like this happens, I’m embarrassed to be from Oklahoma. Some of the most close-minded religious freakos live in this state, and they think that their beliefs trump the constitution. There’s a reason why we were the last fucking state to legalize tattooing. Because we have a lot of idiots here. And a lot of those idiots unfortunately are in public office. There aren’t enough :rolleyes: and :mad: in this world.  
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Yeah, I felt the same way until I moved from Oklahoma to Louisiana, where angels and demons are real and evolution is a fantasy. My favorite letter to the editor was printed in the Shreveport paper a few years ago. It seems that a certain lady was upset about Daylight Savings Time since the extra hour of sunlight burned her lawn.

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