# Gallagher in his older years not quite the lovable scamp of early times

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 10, 2010, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253 "2010-07-10T21:58:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2010, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253/21 "2010-07-11T23:13:21Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Of course it isn’t. It’s the fault of all those Liberals refusing to let him on their shows and stealing his stuff. 😛

And the queers, too. Don’t forget them. No doubt Gallagher is the favorite target of the Gay Mafia.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2010, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253/22 "2010-07-11T23:25:53Z")

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> [@Huerta88](#):
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> Read the Onion interview. He’d have to be a Hell of a better showman (I mean a good, intelligent showman) than he’s ever shown signs of being to fake the mean-spirited, querolous, minatory tone on display there.

Onion interview?

Isnt that the place that makes up almost believable but just a bit over the top shit?

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2010, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253/23 "2010-07-11T23:31:33Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Onion interview?
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> Isnt that the place that makes up almost believable but just a bit over the top shit?

AV Club plays it straight.

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**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2010, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253/24 "2010-07-11T23:32:43Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Onion interview?
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> Isnt that the place that makes up almost believable but just a bit over the top shit?

The Onion’s AV Club does straight cultural criticism/journalism on film, music, TV, and bitter, hate-filled, washed-up prop comics.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2010, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253/25 "2010-07-11T23:34:42Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> AV Club plays it straight.

Oh okay.

And I guess they are allowed to talk about it too 🙂

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**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253/26 "2010-07-13T02:36:27Z")

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> [@Huerta88](#):
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> Did you see this?
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> [The A.V. Club — Pop culture obsessives writing for the pop culture obsessed.](http://www.avclub.com/articles/gallagher,36622/)

Wow, that is a mess; he’s all over the place. Reminds me of Abe Simpson and the onion on his belt.

Also, I think he misunderstood the cop.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253/27 "2010-07-13T16:24:07Z")

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Perhaps Mel Gibson can help him out on his comeback.

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**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253/28 "2010-07-13T16:26:46Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> Perhaps Mel Gibson can help him out on his comeback.

Not that it’s an excuse for Mel, but Gallagher can’t even blame chronic drunkeness (AFAIK) for his bile. And while Mel had (at least in the younger days) his beefcake factor to fall back on, Gallagher has always looked like a ratty hippie, so I’m not sure what his plan B might be.

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**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253/29 "2010-07-13T23:20:22Z")

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I found his brother’s myspace page amusing:

“Hey folks! I’m Gallagher’s older brother Ron. I go around the country, booking shows and doing my brother’s act. Unfortunately, I took it too far a few years ago and sort of led people into thinking that I was actually my more famous bro. To avoid problems in the future, I started calling myself “Gallagher II” but by then my brother already put a cease and desist order on me and well, I was pretty much fucked. These days, I scrap metal and pawn things. I had a good run though…”

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253/30 "2010-07-13T23:23:41Z")

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That’s insane. A sold-out performance??

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253/31 "2010-07-14T02:51:25Z")

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There’s a place for people like him.

It’s called Branson.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253/32 "2010-07-14T03:29:23Z")

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If the two Gallagher brothers did shows together, would they be greater than the Beatles?

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**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253/33 "2010-07-14T14:51:43Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> There’s a place for people like him.
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> It’s called Branson.

Vat a country!

Yep, he’s found a home there – [http://www.yakov.com/branson/](http://www.yakov.com/branson/)

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**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253/34 "2010-07-14T16:20:02Z")

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> [@Huerta88](#):
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> Did you see this?
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> [The A.V. Club — Pop culture obsessives writing for the pop culture obsessed.](http://www.avclub.com/articles/gallagher,36622/)
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> I don’t know that the full brunt of the “hate speech” type stuff came through, but he definitely came across as a cranky, bitter, curmudgeonly, self-pitying, and far-from-funny (well, that was always true) old jackass. Self-aggrandizing too (note how he takes credit for more or less having invented the mosh pit).

Wow- that’s not how I read that article at all. It was actually a topic of discussion at work for a few minutes amongst the cubes when it came out, and everyone was pretty much in agreement with him- A lot of comedy sucks. Dane Cook is a prime example. How much effort do you really think he puts in to his shows?

The part where he is griping about the audience is perhaps curmudgeonly, but again he has a point- I’m all for getting bombed in a local bar (Support your local bartender!), but it is a tad annoying when I go to the Funnybone and a bunch of braying jackasses are talking through the show/laughing at inappropriate times/heckling because of drunkeness. Why spend the cash if you are not going to remember the show?

Furthermore, I would like to hear some of this “Hate speech” myself. It seems bizarre that he would be able to say anything approaching what is quoted in that article without the audience leaving en masse.

/Not defending “Hate speech” per the OP, but I’ve always had a soft spot for Gallagher and this doesn’t sound anything like him or his shows.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253/35 "2010-07-14T16:23:32Z")

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> [@](#):
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> AVC: Why has prop comedy been stagnating more and more?
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> G: I told you: an emphasis on the mediocre.

Now _that_ is funny.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253/36 "2010-07-14T17:53:20Z")

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He was also the celebrity guest on the maiden voyage of the monorail.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253/37 "2010-07-14T19:20:07Z")

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Wow, that was amazing.

He makes me feel young and hip, and I’ll be 50 this year.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gallagher-in-his-older-years-not-quite-the-lovable-scamp-of-early-times/546253/38 "2010-07-14T19:45:50Z")

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> [@spark240](#):
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> If the two Gallagher brothers did shows together, would they be greater than the Beatles?

Or would they cancel each other out?

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