# Game 3 at Fenway, WTF?!? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 13, 2003, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-3-at-fenway-wtf/207130 "2003-10-13T05:44:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![bmoak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-3-at-fenway-wtf/207130/81 "2003-10-15T03:46:54Z")
Reading the comments from Goose and Nettles make me realize that Game 3 was nothing compared to the animosity that the Yanks and Sox had toward each other in the 70s. Luckily, both teams are managed by low-key guys. Can you imagine what Games 3 would have ended up becoming if it had been Billy Martin managing the Yankees and Zimmer in the Boston dugout? They’d proabably still be out there brawling. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-3-at-fenway-wtf/207130/82 "2003-10-15T11:07:26Z")
The question isn’t whether he was incapable of hurting Martinez, it’s how likely he could have. A person charging at another person is at a disadvantage, because the chargee can either move aside or counterattack, whereas the charger has only one option (i.e., keep moving forward). I may have missed it, but I don’t recall anyone saying Martinez should have **ignored** Zimmer. And to follow on your example, if your 69-year-old, out-of-shape father came charging at me in a fit of unbridled rage, I would definitely not counterattack - when people are enraged, they’re less capable of controlling themselves. If I stopped him and counterattacked, he’d be twice as mad. The smart thing would be to step aside. Smart and mature. Step aside, let the enraged beast pass, and let him cool off. If Martinez had had the wherewithal to do that, you can bet everyone from both teams would have rushed in between them, with no further harm done. **bmoak** , darn tootin’! ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-3-at-fenway-wtf/207130/83 "2003-10-15T11:15:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dantheman \* > \*\*Interesting column by Bob Klapisch on [ESPN.com](http://ESPN.com) about two ex-Yankees and how they feel about the whole mess: > > [http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2003/columns/story?columnist=klapisch\_bob&id=1637695](http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2003/columns/story?columnist=klapisch_bob&id=1637695) > > Interesting and funny in spots. But remember, these are ex-players, so of course their viewpoints are somewhat colored… \*\* It is interesting, especially for 2 contradicting comments by Gossage: > [@](#): > > "If he pulled that stuff in the old days, he would’ve gotten back in the box and I guarantee you he would’ve had the next pitch in his earlobe. > [@](#): > > There’s no question he threw right at Garcia’s head. That’s totally gutless. It’s too bad he doesn’t have to hit, because I guarantee you he wouldn’t be throwing at hitters like that." Oh my. It’s totally gutless to throw at someones head like those cowardly Sox. But if that Sox player mouthed off, I’d put a pitch in his ear. What what WHAT??? ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-3-at-fenway-wtf/207130/84 "2003-10-15T11:17:54Z")
Well, as I said - it’s a slightly colored viewpoint. To Goose, Yankees = GOOD Red Sox = BAD Case closed, for him! ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-3-at-fenway-wtf/207130/85 "2003-10-15T11:23:23Z")
What’s good for the Goose is good for the gander. 😃 [sub]I slay me!!![/sub] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-3-at-fenway-wtf/207130.md?page=4)