# \[ GAME \] Botticelli - Nov. 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 31, 2014, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138 "2014-10-31T16:34:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/101 "2014-11-10T17:03:37Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you Prime Minister under Queen Victoria?
> 2. Were you played by Paul Hogan in a series of movies?
> 3. Did you play Uncle Charlie on My Three Sons?
> 
> Not Disraeli or Mick “Crocodile” Dundee; dunno the third.

Correct on the first 2. #3 was William Demarest.

DQ: Known for business?

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/102 "2014-11-10T17:12:02Z")

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IQ) Were you a former Rookie of the Year who managed the Oakland A’s to a World Series title?

IQ2) Did you explore the California coast in the _ **Golden Hind?** _

IQ3) Did you claim that Howard Hughes left you a fortune because you’d once given him a ride?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/103 "2014-11-10T17:55:08Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Are you Beetle Bailey’s niece?  
> IQ2: Are you Beetle Bailey’s nephew?  
> IQ3: Were you an RAF fighter ace better known as a children’s author?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not… Daphne, or Donald? Not Roald Dahl.

Dot and Ditto Flagston, from the _Hi and Lois_ strip.  
Correct on Roald Dahl.  
DQ: Known for sports?  
Four DQs reserved.  
IQ1: Were you and another person working for a penny, trying to get a fish on the line?  
IQ2: Did you speak for a cat in a series of films about a mouse?  
IQ3: Did you have a great fall?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/104 "2014-11-10T18:55:05Z")

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IQ: Are you a news anchor for ABC and co-host for _This Week_?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/105 "2014-11-10T20:49:00Z")

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Rules question: If someone looks over my shoulder, reads the list of DQ answers, and says, “Oh, that sounds like X,” is it legitimate to ask about X in my next set of IQs? Would your answers to that question be different if (a) X was someone I knew about , but hadn’t thought of, or (b) X was someone I’d never heard of?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/106 "2014-11-10T20:55:34Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Rules question: If someone looks over my shoulder, reads the list of DQ answers, and says, “Oh, that sounds like X,” is it legitimate to ask about X in my next set of IQs? Would your answers to that question be different if (a) X was someone I knew about , but hadn’t thought of, or (b) X was someone I’d never heard of?

If X is a, someone you’ve heard of, it’s fair game; not so if X is b, IMHO.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/107 "2014-11-10T21:34:47Z")

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I agree with **Prof. P.**'s suggested ruling. This is a game of memory - not research skill, or officious intermeddlers.

> [@astorian](#):
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> IQ) Were you a former Rookie of the Year who managed the Oakland A’s to a World Series title?
> 
> IQ2) Did you explore the California coast in the _ **Golden Hind?** _
> 
> IQ3) Did you claim that Howard Hughes left you a fortune because you’d once given him a ride?

Dunno, not Drake, and not Melvin Dsomebodyorother.

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> …  
> IQ1: Were you and another person working for a penny, trying to get a fish on the line?  
> IQ2: Did you speak for a cat in a series of films about a mouse?  
> IQ3: Did you have a great fall?

Dunno the first two; not Humpty Dumpty.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ: Are you a news anchor for ABC and co-host for _This Week_?

Not… David Gregory?

D.

1. real
2. male
3. American
4. last name starts with D
5. born south of the Mason-Dixon Line
6. born west of the Mississippi
7. not known for the Arts
8. alive
9. not known for politics, although has been involved in 'em
10. born after 1960
11. not known for science
12. born before 1980
13. last name does not start with DA through DI
14. born before 1970
15. Caucasian
16. not born in California
17. not known for business
18. not known for sports

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/108 "2014-11-10T22:59:45Z")

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DQ: known for law enforcement or crime?

IQs:

1. Are you the actor who played Samwise Gamgee in the LOTR Movies’s mother?
2. Were you a Greek hero of the Trojan War?
3. Did you fake an accent to play a character who informed the captain that the engines just couldn’t take much more?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/109 "2014-11-10T23:14:52Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you and another person working for a penny, trying to get a fish on the line?  
> IQ2: Did you speak for a cat in a series of films about a mouse?  
> IQ3: Did you have a great fall?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Dunno the first two; not Humpty Dumpty.

Denny Doherty, of the Mamas and the Papas, according to “Creeque Alley.”  
Dom Deluise, in the _American Tail_ movies.  
Correct.  
Six DQs reserved…

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/110 "2014-11-11T04:12:02Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> …  
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you the actor who played Samwise Gamgee in the LOTR Movies’s mother?
> 2. Were you a Greek hero of the Trojan War?
> 3. Did you fake an accent to play a character who informed the captain that the engines just couldn’t take much more?

Not Patty Duke, Diomedes (?), or James Doohan.

D.

1. real
2. male
3. American
4. last name starts with D
5. born south of the Mason-Dixon Line
6. born west of the Mississippi
7. not known for the Arts
8. alive
9. not known for politics, although has been involved in 'em
10. born after 1960
11. not known for science
12. born before 1980
13. last name does not start with DA through DI
14. born before 1970
15. Caucasian
16. not born in California
17. not known for business
18. not known for sports
19. not known for law enforcement or crime

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/111 "2014-11-11T13:23:39Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ: Are you a news anchor for ABC and co-host for This Week?  
> Not… David Gregory?

Sam Donaldson. My identity guess, since he was born in Texas.

DQ: Born in Texas?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/112 "2014-11-11T15:49:07Z")

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Correct on all three, even Diomedes. Well done.

Think, think, think…

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/113 "2014-11-11T15:49:54Z")

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D.

1. real
2. male
3. American
4. last name starts with D
5. born south of the Mason-Dixon Line
6. born west of the Mississippi
7. not known for the Arts
8. alive
9. not known for politics, although has been involved in 'em
10. born after 1960
11. not known for science
12. born before 1980
13. last name does not start with DA through DI
14. born before 1970
15. Caucasian
16. not born in California
17. not known for business
18. not known for sports
19. not known for law enforcement or crime
20. not born in Texas

Any earned but still-unasked DQs should asked by 3pm EDST; then we’ll shift to “Are you Firstname Lastname?” mode.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/114 "2014-11-11T15:56:38Z")

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Thinking aloud: Journalism is included in the Arts, isn’t it, as a subset of writing?

Last DQ: known for one particular act or event?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/115 "2014-11-11T17:51:32Z")

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I would consider journalism separate from the arts, but in any event…

D.

1. real
2. male
3. American
4. last name starts with D
5. born south of the Mason-Dixon Line
6. born west of the Mississippi
7. not known for the Arts
8. alive
9. not known for politics, although has been involved in 'em
10. born after 1960
11. not known for science
12. born before 1980
13. last name does not start with DA through DI
14. born before 1970
15. Caucasian
16. not born in California
17. not known for business
18. not known for sports
19. not known for law enforcement or crime
20. not born in Texas
21. not a journalist
22. not known for _one_ particular act or event

Note the emphasis.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/116 "2014-11-11T21:10:10Z")

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… I just realized no one has asked about the military. It is after 3, but I’m still thinking…

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/117 "2014-11-11T22:19:52Z")

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D.

1. real
2. male
3. American
4. last name starts with D
5. born south of the Mason-Dixon Line
6. born west of the Mississippi
7. not known for the Arts
8. alive
9. not known for politics, although has been involved in 'em
10. born after 1960
11. not known for science
12. born before 1980
13. last name does not start with DA through DI
14. born before 1970
15. Caucasian
16. not born in California
17. not known for business
18. not known for sports
19. not known for law enforcement or crime
20. not born in Texas
21. not a journalist
22. not known for _one_ particular act or event
23. not known for the military

I’ll give you another two hours.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/118 "2014-11-11T23:50:11Z")

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DQ: Last name starts with DJ through DR?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/119 "2014-11-12T01:27:54Z")

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D.

1. real
2. male
3. American
4. last name starts with D
5. born south of the Mason-Dixon Line
6. born west of the Mississippi
7. not known for the Arts
8. alive
9. not known for politics, although has been involved in 'em
10. born after 1960
11. not known for science
12. born before 1980
13. last name does not start with DA through DI
14. born before 1970
15. Caucasian
16. not born in California
17. not known for business
18. not known for sports
19. not known for law enforcement or crime
20. not born in Texas
21. not a journalist
22. not known for one particular act or event
23. not known for the military
24. last name does not start with DJ through DR

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-nov-2014/703138/120 "2014-11-12T01:29:10Z")

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OK, anyone who’s earned a DQ answer in this round may now ask a “Are you Firstname Lastname?” question, one apiece, let’s say in the next 24 hours.

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