# \[GAME\] Botticelli Oct 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 1, 2014, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044 "2014-10-01T01:41:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/461 "2014-10-12T00:23:19Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ: Did you play Mini-Me?

Yes, I am Verne [SIZE=“7”]Troyer![/SIZE] Hollywood’s biggest little star!

Grats, Scadian! This **W** is for you.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/462 "2014-10-12T00:41:30Z")

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Good job, SCAdian!

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/463 "2014-10-12T11:32:10Z")

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I actually thought Troyer was a Brit, but I was running out of _V_s and I knew he wasn’t Virgil Earp or Vern Gosdin… 🙂  
I am **W**.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/464 "2014-10-12T11:42:58Z")

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IQ: Were you the only President born during the 18th c. who didn’t live into the 19th c.?  
IQ: Do people wonder “where are you”?  
IQ: Were you our general in Vietnam?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/465 "2014-10-12T11:48:16Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Were you the only President born during the 18th c. who didn’t live into the 19th c.?  
> IQ: Do people wonder “where are you”?  
> IQ: Were you our general in Vietnam?

Not George Washington.  
Neither Wally (the original) nor Waldo (the American version).  
Not William Westmoreland.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/466 "2014-10-12T13:48:41Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you a presidential candidate born in my home town?
2. Did you and your brothers sail off in a wooden shoe?
3. Did you compose _Der Ring des Nibelungen_?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/467 "2014-10-12T14:35:30Z")

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IQ1: Were you one of the singers for the country music hit “Mamas Don’t Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Cowboys”?  
IQ2: Were you the other singer?  
IQ3: Did you sing “Here Comes My Baby Back Again,” which won you the first Grammy Award for Best Female Country Vocal Performance in 1965?

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**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/468 "2014-10-12T16:30:28Z")

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So… I’ve played a variant of this, but I’m not sure of the local rules. Is there a post somewhere that summarizes? Specifically, how much web searching is allowed in each role, and how do ‘reserved questions’ work?

I think I’m safe enough from context for these three:

IQ1. Are you one of the kids on _South Park_?  
IQ2. Did you star in the movie _Cocoon_?  
IQ3. Did you write a short story more than a hundred years ago that is the basis for (and, after truncation, gives the title to) a current TV series?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/469 "2014-10-12T16:42:39Z")

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I’m American, so to me, he’s Waldo. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/470 "2014-10-12T19:10:31Z")

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> [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](#):
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> So… I’ve played a variant of this, but I’m not sure of the local rules. Is there a post somewhere that summarizes? Specifically, how much web searching is allowed in each role, and how do ‘reserved questions’ work?

Welcome to the game! The Chooser (currently SCAdian) cannot use web research. Sometimes guessers will amass a few DQs and decide to reserve one or more of them. Maybe there will be DQs that haven’t been answered yet, and the guessers want to see what the answers are before proceeding. Also, we might be nearing the 20 DQ limit, and the guessers might want more time to figure out the mystery guest’s identity before hitting the limit. So, if you decide not to use all your DQs, just announce how many you’re reserving.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/471 "2014-10-12T19:42:34Z")

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IQ: Were you a prisoner who escaped your furlough program, committing more violent crimes?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/472 "2014-10-13T00:04:46Z")

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> [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](#):
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> So… I’ve played a variant of this, but I’m not sure of the local rules. Is there a post somewhere that summarizes? Specifically, how much web searching is allowed in each role, and how do ‘reserved questions’ work?

Welcome, welcome! The more the merrier!

\*\*No \*\*Web Searching is allowed to anyone except the Chooser, and he/she only gets to research questions in regards to the Subject. It’s all in our heads.

We play that you can only ask up to three IQs at a time.

The Letter you get is usually your choice, although right now we are going through the alphabet, a-z, and are up to W. The Letter, as we are playing now, should be the initial of the Subject’s first name or last name (but not middle name, unless that’s the name he/she’s really best known by).

As KO said, if you don’t want to guess all your DQs right away, you don’t have to, and those left are kept in reserve.

Enjoy!

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/473 "2014-10-13T00:10:50Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you a presidential candidate born in my home town?
> 2. Did you and your brothers sail off in a wooden shoe?
> 3. Did you compose _Der Ring des Nibelungen_?

DQ.  
Not Winken.  
Not Richard Wagner.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Were you one of the singers for the country music hit “Mamas Don’t Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Cowboys”?  
> IQ2: Were you the other singer?  
> IQ3: Did you sing “Here Comes My Baby Back Again,” which won you the first Grammy Award for Best Female Country Vocal Performance in 1965?

Not Waylon.  
Not Willie.  
Not … Kitty Wells?

> [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](#):
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> IQ1. Are you one of the kids on _South Park_?  
> IQ2. Did you star in the movie _Cocoon_?  
> IQ3. Did you write a short story more than a hundred years ago that is the basis for (and, after truncation, gives the title to) a current TV series?

Three DQs.

> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Were you a prisoner who escaped your furlough program, committing more violent crimes?

DQ.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> The Chooser (currently SCAdian) cannot use web research.

The Host (the term I prefer :)) is the _only_ one who should be doing any research, and that only to make sure (s)he gives correct answers to DQs. All IQs and IQ answers should come from your own memory.

We’ve adopted a few other conventions, such as:  
Sitting Bull’s first name is “Sitting,” and “Bull” is his last name, for the purpose of questions regarding first and last names. The same, of course, applies to Crazy Horse and others who have two-word single names.  
Most people don’t even know John Calvin Coolidge’s first name (or that “Calvin” isn’t it); therefore he can be used as a ‘C,’ but not as a ‘J.’ The same goes for Stephen Grover Cleveland (‘G’ or ‘C,’ but not ‘S’) and others with given names that are usually found only in encyclopedias.  
On the other hand, no one ever calls John Philip Sousa by just his first and last names, so he can legitimately be used as a ‘P.’ The same goes for John Wilkes Booth, D H Lawrence, T S Eliot, and others who are always referred to using their middle name or initial.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/474 "2014-10-13T00:21:14Z")

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Oh - as mentioned by KO, we play until 20 direct questions have been answered. If we reach that point without anyone’s having made a correct guess, then each person who has been awarded a DQ is then permitted one more DQ, in the form “Are you Firstname Lastname?”

The host doesn’t have to cut the game off at 20 DQs if he doesn’t want to. For instance, if I’m the host, 18 questions have been answered, and I get home from work to find five or six DQs waiting for me, I’ll probably answer all of them.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/475 "2014-10-13T00:35:17Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you a presidential candidate born in my home town?
> 2. Did you and your brothers sail off in a wooden shoe?
> 3. Did you compose _Der Ring des Nibelungen_?

Wendell L. Willkie and I were both born in Elwood, IN. Correct on the other two.

DQ: Are you a Real person?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/476 "2014-10-13T00:46:58Z")

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I was going for Willie Horton

DQ: Male?

IQ: Is a beef dish named in your honor?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/477 "2014-10-13T00:47:51Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you Plastic Man’s comedy sidekick?
2. Were you one of the stars of _Hart to Hart_?
3. Did you have a hit with _Redneck Woman_?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/478 "2014-10-13T00:50:09Z")

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IQ: Are you a dying traveling salesman?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/479 "2014-10-13T01:08:16Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Not Waylon.  
> Not Willie.  
> Not … Kitty Wells?

Dottie West

holding a DQ

When I said the Chooser doesn’t do web research, I meant to answer DQs. As I found out after I first started playing. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/480 "2014-10-13T01:14:05Z")

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IQ1: Were you the Commandant of Stalag 13?  
IQ2: Were you the actor who played him?  
IQ3: Were you a frequent visiting Gestapo on the same show??

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