# \[GAME\] Botticelli Oct 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 1, 2014, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044 "2014-10-01T01:41:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/521 "2014-10-14T00:01:39Z")

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IQ: Did you have a chocolate factory?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/522 "2014-10-14T00:10:09Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you write _The Piano Has Been Drinking_?
2. Were you a superspeeding hero in Timely Comics?
3. Were you an illustrator and the father of a better known artist?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/523 "2014-10-14T00:45:40Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Did you have a chocolate factory?

Not Willy Wonka.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you write _The Piano Has Been Drinking_?
> 2. Were you a superspeeding hero in Timely Comics?
> 3. Were you an illustrator and the father of a better known artist?

DQ.  
Not … the Whizzer?  
DQ.

**W**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Human
4. Initial appearance/publication was not in this century (2001+)
5. Might be considered the protagonist in the work(s) I’m best known for
6. Not best known from a movie or movies
7. Last name starts with W
8. First appeared after 1900
9. Not from literature
10. Not from the detective genre
11. Not best known for appearing on television
12. Not from a comic strip
13. American creation
14. Not a comic book character
15. Not a video game character
16. From the lyrics of a song
17. Last name is in common current use as a last name in the US
18. From a song of the '60s-'70s  
Tim has four DQs.  
EH has one (or possibly more).  
KO has one (or possibly more).  
Prof P has none.  
etv has none.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/524 "2014-10-14T00:49:07Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you write The Piano Has Been Drinking?
> 2. Were you a superspeeding hero in Timely Comics?
> 3. Were you an illustrator and the father of a better known artist?
> 
> DQ.  
> Not … the Whizzer?  
> DQ.

#1 is Tom Waits.  
#2 is indeed the Whizzer. Calling a guy in a yellow costume the Whizzer has long been a joke of the comics community.  
#3 was N. C. Wyeth, father of Andrew.

2 DQs reserved.

Pondering, pondering… Do I really want to do X again?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/525 "2014-10-14T00:55:39Z")

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IQ: Did “they” come to save you in a Monkees song?

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**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/526 "2014-10-14T02:08:12Z")

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> [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](#):
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> IQ1: Are you an antagonist to the Mario Brothers?  
> IQ3: Are you a female member of the Legion of Super Heroes?

Wario  
the White Witch

DQ: In your most famous appearance/song, do the name(s) you are referred to include both a first and a last name?

Ugh, song lyrics are not one of my strengths. Gotta go with genericish questions for the few names I do know and hope for a shotgun hit.

IQ1: Are you the subject of a song written to celebrate a holiday?  
IQ2: Are you described as walking within a song?

hmm… inspiration hits, this might conceivably be it…

IQ3: Are you mentioned in a song that also contains the lyric, “I am the Eggman”

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/527 "2014-10-14T02:14:16Z")

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Tim: IQ1 sounds more like a DQ.

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**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/528 "2014-10-14T02:26:00Z")

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Hmm… my intent was IQ, I am requesting a name of any W who is the subject of a song written to celebrate a holiday. I have such a W in mind and will provide it if SCAdian is unable to name any.

My intent was to craft a question that’s broad enough to potentially hit the actual answer by chance, yet narrow enough that the Host will not have an easy alternative in mind if that happens. Maybe I erred in the second part and made this one too broad.

Is that sort of tactic not considered appropriate here?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/529 "2014-10-14T02:35:18Z")

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It’s okay. It happens all the time. Usually, the Host will respond with an appropriate answer that may or may not be the one you had in mind, and then you can rephrase your IQ to be more specific, and re-ask it.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/530 "2014-10-14T02:43:07Z")

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Despite what Prof just told you, that’s still a violation of the difference between IQ and DQ. At least when I made that mistake.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/531 "2014-10-14T03:27:15Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Are you an adversary of The Incredible Hulk that shares the same name as a creature from Algonquian myth that eats people?  
> IQ2: Are you Dr. Strange’s manservant?  
> IQ3: Are you an allegorical Messiah from Marvel Comics originally named Him?
> 
> Not … Wendigo?  
> Not … Wong?  
> DQ.

Adam Warlock

holding a DQ, at least till I read the rest of the thread

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/532 "2014-10-14T03:53:50Z")

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IQ1: Are you lookin’ for the place called Lee Ho Fooks, gonna get a big dish of beef chow mein?  
IQ2: Does Ray Davies sing about how he wishes he could be you?  
IQ3: Are you peeking out from under a stairway, calling a name that’s lighter than air?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/533 "2014-10-14T20:39:25Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> … **Elendil’s Heir** : Was your Clarence/Roger/V question a reference to _Airplane!_?

But of course!

Previous IQs:

Does your tomb include the seals of two presidencies which you held in your lifetime? - Yes, Woodrow Wilson, at the National Cathedral (with the seals for Princeton U. and the U.S. Presidency)  
Did you chair the U.S. Bicentennial Commission? - John Warner, later to marry Elizabeth Taylor and serve in the U.S. Senate from Virginia  
Did you burn most of your husband’s letters before you died, much to anguish of later historians? - Yes, Martha Washington, alas

DQ:

From a rock/pop song?

IQs:

Did JFK appoint you to the Supreme Court?  
Were you a high school chemistry teacher who had an interesting second career?  
Was Matthew Harrison Brady your fictional doppelganger?

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**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/534 "2014-10-14T21:47:47Z")

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DQ: Are you referred to by a title in your most popular song(Mister, Doctor, etc?)

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/535 "2014-10-14T23:08:39Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQ: Did “they” come to save you in a Monkees song?

DQ.

> [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](#):
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> IQ1: Are you the subject of a song written to celebrate a holiday?  
> IQ2: Are you described as walking within a song?
> 
> hmm… inspiration hits, this might conceivably be it…
> 
> IQ3: Are you mentioned in a song that also contains the lyric, “I am the Eggman”

The only objection I have to this question is that I haven’t the faintest idea what the answer is. DQ.  
Described as moving from one place to another by myself, yes, but not using the specific word “walking.” DQ.  
DQ.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Are you lookin’ for the place called Lee Ho Fooks, gonna get a big dish of beef chow mein?  
> IQ2: Does Ray Davies sing about how he wishes he could be you?  
> IQ3: Are you peeking out from under a stairway, calling a name that’s lighter than air?

DQ.  
DQ.  
No, and I’m not bending down to give you a rainbow, either. Not Windy.  
Rats. Now I have the Muppets stuck in my head…

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did JFK appoint you to the Supreme Court?  
> Were you a high school chemistry teacher who had an interesting second career?  
> Was Matthew Harrison Brady your fictional doppelganger?

DQ.  
DQ (though I think I’ll kick myself for this one).  
DQ.

**W**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Human
4. Initial appearance/publication was not in this century (2001+)
5. Might be considered the protagonist in the work(s) I’m best known for
6. Not best known from a movie or movies
7. Last name starts with W
8. First appeared after 1900
9. Not from literature
10. Not from the detective genre
11. Not best known for appearing on television
12. Not from a comic strip
13. American creation
14. Not a comic book character
15. Not a video game character
16. From the lyrics of a song
17. Last name is in common current use as a last name in the US
18. From a song of the '60s-'70s
19. Referred to by both first and last name
20. From a rock/pop song
21. Not referred to by a title (Mister, Doctor, etc)

Aaaaaaand - that’s 20!

All outstanding DQs are hereby cancelled. Tell me the answers to the questions I missed, and talk it out amongst yourselves a bit if you want. Tim, EH, KO, Prof P and etv may each ask one DQ of the “Are you Firstname Lastname?” variety. I’ll be back tomorrow to check on progress…

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/536 "2014-10-14T23:17:40Z")

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Mine was D. W. Washburn.

A male character from an American rock/pop song of the 1960’s/70’s, both names, not referred to by a title, whose commonly occurring last name starts with W.

Time to meditate in the Mind Palace.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/537 "2014-10-14T23:32:33Z")

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Ohhhhh!

I should know better than to tug on Superman’s cape, or to spit into the wind, or to pull the mask off that ol’ Lone Ranger.

DQ: Are you Big Jim Walker from _You Don’t Mess Around With Jim_ by Jim Croce?

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**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2014, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/538 "2014-10-15T00:18:06Z")

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> [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](#):
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> IQ1: Are you the subject of a song written to celebrate a holiday?  
> IQ2: Are you described as walking within a song?  
> IQ3: Are you mentioned in a song that also contains the lyric, “I am the Eggman”

1. Jolly old King Winceslas (sp?)
2. The Wizard (Black Sabbath song, that’s his only name)
3. I am the Walrus (koo koo kachoo!)

and I’m not expecting to come up with a DQ that could conceivably be it.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2014, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/539 "2014-10-15T01:07:34Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did JFK appoint you to the Supreme Court? - Byron “Whizzer” White  
Were you a high school chemistry teacher who had an interesting second career? - Walter White, on _Breaking Bad_  
Was Matthew Harrison Brady your fictional doppelganger? - William Jennings Bryan, in _Inherit the Wind_

Aaaaand: Are you Horace Wimp?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2014, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-botticelli-oct-2014/700044/540 "2014-10-15T02:22:11Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Are you lookin’ for the place called Lee Ho Fooks, gonna get a big dish of beef chow mein?  
> IQ2: Does Ray Davies sing about how he wishes he could be you?  
> IQ3: Are you peeking out from under a stairway, calling a name that’s lighter than air?
> 
> DQ.  
> DQ.  
> No, and I’m not bending down to give you a rainbow, either. Not Windy.  
> Rats. Now I have the Muppets stuck in my head…

Aaaoooooh… Werewolf of London  
David Watts  
correct

Will take a guess tomorrow morning

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