# Game of Thrones 2.07 "A Man Without Honor" 5/13/12 No Book Spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 13, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-07-a-man-without-honor-5-13-12-no-book-spoilers/621784 "2012-05-13T17:16:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-07-a-man-without-honor-5-13-12-no-book-spoilers/621784/102 "2012-05-20T16:11:10Z")
He was one of the thirteen, he named himself king right before he killed the other 11. ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-07-a-man-without-honor-5-13-12-no-book-spoilers/621784/103 "2012-05-20T19:01:09Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Was Xaros always the king? Because I thought that when Dany first got to the city, he was one of thirteen equal leaders. No, killing the rest of the 13 and kidnapping the dragons was his move to make himself the king. He’s taken control of the city and laid claim to a newly created throne. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-07-a-man-without-honor-5-13-12-no-book-spoilers/621784/104 "2012-06-05T01:14:15Z")
Sorry to revive a dormant thread, but I’m 3 weeks behind in my viewing, so I just saw this episode. In Cersei’s tender moment with Tyrion, why was it relevant that she brought up the Targaryen’s predilection for incest, and how insanity runs in the family? She’s not a Targaryen…right? When the Council of 13 gets offed, Xanos seemed to disappear during the throat-cutting. Where did he go? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-07-a-man-without-honor-5-13-12-no-book-spoilers/621784/105 "2012-06-05T02:01:21Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > In Cersei’s tender moment with Tyrion, why was it relevant that she brought up the Targaryen’s predilection for incest, and how insanity runs in the family? She’s not a Targaryen…right? She’s just grasping at anything to rationalize her life. She mentioned it with Ned as well. In her conversation with Tyrion, she showed that she’s aware that she’s rationalizing. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-07-a-man-without-honor-5-13-12-no-book-spoilers/621784/106 "2012-06-05T03:50:43Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Sorry to revive a dormant thread, but I’m 3 weeks behind in my viewing, so I just saw this episode. > > In Cersei’s tender moment with Tyrion, why was it relevant that she brought up the Targaryen’s predilection for incest, and how insanity runs in the family? She’s not a Targaryen…right? She’s not a Targarayan, but she **is** incestuous. And the belief is that **incest** creates “mad” offspring, such as Joffery, not that “madness” runs in the Targarayan family in particular. > [@jsc1953](#): > > When the Council of 13 gets offed, Xanos seemed to disappear during the throat-cutting. Where did he go? He was standing right there next to Dany. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-07-a-man-without-honor-5-13-12-no-book-spoilers/621784/107 "2012-06-05T13:25:15Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > She’s not a Targarayan, but she **is** incestuous. And the belief is that **incest** creates “mad” offspring, such as Joffery, not that “madness” runs in the Targarayan family in particular. Makes sense. > [@](#): > > He was standing right there next to Dany. That’s what I thought, but the next cut that shows Dany, one of her Dothraki friends is with her, and no Xanos. I got confused…but I think it was just confused editing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-07-a-man-without-honor-5-13-12-no-book-spoilers/621784.md?page=5)